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  • Well, the third umpire confirmed it, so I guess he knows!
  • Stokes gets away with a stone dead lbw as SL have used their reviews
  • change of field. Root gone, but surely a no ball?

    Initially I thought the same Suz......but then thinking about it it’s not the same scenario as a run out where the batsman’s foot/hand/bat etc have to be grounded.
    For a bowler part of his foot only has to be behind the line but not necessarily grounded......I believe I am correct in saying that. If I am, then that was a fair delivery...... can someone confirm.
    Having said that, it was a damn close call either way.

    I have a real issue with the 3rd Umpire constantly giving the benefit of the doubt to the bowler mainly because I really cannot understand why any bowler, let alone a spinner, pushes things so far that the delivery has to be looked at.

    In fact, I must admit that the sadist in me likes nothing better than, when umpiring and having either warned a bowler that he is getting very close or even already previously called a "no ball", having the arm outstretched just as the batsman's middle stump is seen cartwheeling through the air!
  • So, now that no. 3 is sorted, and assuming that we use three spinners in the West Indies, how does Curran get back in the side? On the basis that Bairstow wasn't recalled because we had a winning side and Foakes didn't warrant dropping, I suppose he has to bide his time.
  • At the test can see a Charlton flag :)
  • SL learning the really hard way not to burn the reviews early
  • So, now that no. 3 is sorted, and assuming that we use three spinners in the West Indies, how does Curran get back in the side? On the basis that Bairstow wasn't recalled because we had a winning side and Foakes didn't warrant dropping, I suppose he has to bide his time.

    Probably only 2 spinners needed in the Windies anyway

    Bairstow gets his ton, well done. A good show of discipline, though batting at number 3 against Starc etc next summer will be very different
  • edited November 2018

    So, now that no. 3 is sorted, and assuming that we use three spinners in the West Indies, how does Curran get back in the side? On the basis that Bairstow wasn't recalled because we had a winning side and Foakes didn't warrant dropping, I suppose he has to bide his time.

    Probably only 2 spinners needed in the Windies anyway

    Bairstow gets his ton, well done. A good show of discipline, though batting at number 3 against Starc etc next summer will be very different
    As it will for both Burns and Jennings opening. Bairstow is the best option we have to bat at 3 apart from Root who doesn't want to do it. He only averages just over 28 against Australia but that's more than most will muster and I'd like to think with the depth that we now have (we could easily see Foakes at 8 and Curran at 9) any time occupying the crease up top can only help those coming in later.
  • So, now that no. 3 is sorted, and assuming that we use three spinners in the West Indies, how does Curran get back in the side? On the basis that Bairstow wasn't recalled because we had a winning side and Foakes didn't warrant dropping, I suppose he has to bide his time.

    If Bairstow stays at 3 Buttler might end up keeping against Australia. Hard calls for the west indies even harder for the summer.
  • edited November 2018
    Agree 2 spinners max, but Anderson will be back so doesn't help Curran. Be hard not to select him but unless we go down to 1 spinner he may have to wait.
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  • Cafc43v3r said:

    So, now that no. 3 is sorted, and assuming that we use three spinners in the West Indies, how does Curran get back in the side? On the basis that Bairstow wasn't recalled because we had a winning side and Foakes didn't warrant dropping, I suppose he has to bide his time.

    If Bairstow stays at 3 Buttler might end up keeping against Australia. Hard calls for the west indies even harder for the summer.
    Don't think Buttler will keep because we will play only one spinner (with Root to turn his arm over if necessary) so this would be something like this:

    Burns
    Jennings
    Bairstow
    Root
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Moeen
    Foakes
    Curran
    Broad
    Anderson
  • not seen it mentioned but the England Lions lost by 4 wickets to Pakistan in UAE earlier this week

    Eng 240
    Roy 59
    Billings (c) 74 no
    Bess 42

    Pak 195

    Wood 4-67
    Porter 3-22

    Eng 266
    Joe Clarke 107

    Pak 314/6
    Bess 3/110
    Porter 2/68
  • Missed the England Lions, so thanks. Did Billings captain and wicketkeep?
  • redman said:

    Missed the England Lions, so thanks. Did Billings captain and wicketkeep?

    Yes. A poor 4th innings bowling performance, I'm assuming that the conditions were better for spin than seam by then, Briggs with no wickets will be especially disappointed.

    https://www.ecb.co.uk/matches/9168
  • small inside edge..... Ali not out!

    312 for 7

    Ali 23 / Rashid 13
    Stumps.
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    change of field. Root gone, but surely a no ball?

    Initially I thought the same Suz......but then thinking about it it’s not the same scenario as a run out where the batsman’s foot/hand/bat etc have to be grounded.
    For a bowler part of his foot only has to be behind the line but not necessarily grounded......I believe I am correct in saying that. If I am, then that was a fair delivery...... can someone confirm.
    Having said that, it was a damn close call either way.

    I have a real issue with the 3rd Umpire constantly giving the benefit of the doubt to the bowler mainly because I really cannot understand why any bowler, let alone a spinner, pushes things so far that the delivery has to be looked at.

    In fact, I must admit that the sadist in me likes nothing better than, when umpiring and having either warned a bowler that he is getting very close or even already previously called a "no ball", having the arm outstretched just as the batsman's middle stump is seen cartwheeling through the air!
    And the 3rd Umpire has done it again even confirming that he's given "the benefit of the doubt to the bowler". Why when there is no evidence whatsoever that any part of the foot is beyond the line. Keep calling them "no balls" and they will soon stop doing it.

    Fortunately it didn't matter anyway but that's not the point.
  • .

    change of field. Root gone, but surely a no ball?

    Initially I thought the same Suz......but then thinking about it it’s not the same scenario as a run out where the batsman’s foot/hand/bat etc have to be grounded.
    For a bowler part of his foot only has to be behind the line but not necessarily grounded......I believe I am correct in saying that. If I am, then that was a fair delivery...... can someone confirm.
    Having said that, it was a damn close call either way.

    I have a real issue with the 3rd Umpire constantly giving the benefit of the doubt to the bowler mainly because I really cannot understand why any bowler, let alone a spinner, pushes things so far that the delivery has to be looked at.

    In fact, I must admit that the sadist in me likes nothing better than, when umpiring and having either warned a bowler that he is getting very close or even already previously called a "no ball", having the arm outstretched just as the batsman's middle stump is seen cartwheeling through the air!
    And the 3rd Umpire has done it again even confirming that he's given "the benefit of the doubt to the bowler". Why when there is no evidence whatsoever that any part of the foot is beyond the line. Keep calling them "no balls" and they will soon stop doing it.

    Fortunately it didn't matter anyway but that's not the point.
    Even though I was a bowler I thought the maxim was 'if in doubt not out' in other words the batsman gets the benefit of any doubt.
  • Why is Brad Hogg commentating?
    Even called Rory Burns, Joe Burns !
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  • I thought it was a bit odd about Mathews dismissal as it didnt seem clear that he had actually hit it on the (poor) replay - i personally thought it had hit him on the shoulder yet none of the tators said anything. I suppose the soft signal might have been the key?.
  • 205-5 - Jennings with 4 catches at short leg - this one was a stonker.
  • He's still a shit batsman!
  • Leuth said:

    He's still a shit batsman! - outside the sub continent

    fixed
  • Leuth said:

    He's still a shit batsman!

    almost worth a place as a specialist fielder though!
  • Leuth said:

    He's still a shit batsman!

    almost worth a place as a specialist fielder though!
    This is almost never true of anyone, and especially not with England's brilliant fielding side as it is
  • Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    He's still a shit batsman!

    almost worth a place as a specialist fielder though!
    This is almost never true of anyone, and especially not with England's brilliant fielding side as it is
    Maybe he could bat at 7 with all the other "all rounders". At this rate we will be playing the aussies with 7 7s, 2 batters and 2 bowlers.
  • Foakes has hurt a pinkie, if Buttler gets the gloves the Bairstow interview after play would be worth watching
  • Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    He's still a shit batsman!

    almost worth a place as a specialist fielder though!
    This is almost never true of anyone, and especially not with England's brilliant fielding side as it is
    Was more of a joke. Personally believe it should add a few runs to his average though. Not get him a place in the team, but would give him advantage if it were a close call.
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