On the harmony hairspray issue (is he/isnt he) I am split down the middle on it. My head says that I would welcome him back because he is undoubtedly our best striker......but my heart says fuck him & move on. His team mates will be a good barometer & if they are happy with him back then I suppose we should be yltoo.
We'll know in a weeks time & can judge then. Just hope that if he does play then he plays like we know he can & not half heartedly.
Always thought that Lee was trying to motivate Lyle into playing by going public. Interesting that it appears he has changed his mind. Lee Bowyer just gets how to manage footballers.
I have no fears Lyle will be disruptive in training. In fact just turning up should give everyone a boost.
Its quite easy, play well, help keep us up, get that big move and be the next Pukki/Michu/Grant Holt... Then everyone is happy and you'll be considered a hero at Charlton and very well-respected in the wider football world.
Go on do it. Nothing stopping you, unless you're not good enough
Not quite sure it would give the other strikers a boost. They are working their nuts off and he has supposedly been watching a blank tv screen. Not much of a moral booster for the other strikers if he just bowls back in and take his place in the team.
On the harmony hairspray issue (is he/isnt he) I am split down the middle on it. My head says that I would welcome him back because he is undoubtedly our best striker......but my heart says fuck him & move on. His team mates will be a good barometer & if they are happy with him back then I suppose we should be yltoo.
We'll know in a weeks time & can judge then. Just hope that if he does play then he plays like we know he can & not half heartedly.
Yeah agree. I trust in Bows to be able to judge this well.
Even if he just goes training, I find that more acceptable. Better than going on strike.
I guess Bows has to judge if having Lyle around will help the strikers as a collective or harm team spirit.
@ricky_otto - you might well be pissed off as Bonne and Aneke. I see what you are saying.
Equally, Bows might be able to convince both of them that Lyle gives everyone a chance with him for the first 3. It is 3 less games for either of them 2 to break down with injury. They will still have to play a massive part whatever the decision.
Always thought that Lee was trying to motivate Lyle into playing by going public. Interesting that it appears he has changed his mind. Lee Bowyer just gets how to manage footballers.
I have no fears Lyle will be disruptive in training. In fact just turning up should give everyone a boost.
Its quite easy, play well, help keep us up, get that big move and be the next Pukki/Michu/Grant Holt... Then everyone is happy and you'll be considered a hero at Charlton and very well-respected in the wider football world.
Go on do it. Nothing stopping you, unless you're not good enough
Not quite sure it would give the other strikers a boost. They are working their nuts off and he has supposedly been watching a blank tv screen. Not much of a moral booster for the other strikers if he just bowls back in and take his place in the team.
Taylor has been in training right? We don't know how he's looked there, especially compared to the others. He might still be the best in training. And if he did do a u-turn, which I personally doubt but whatever, he'd also have a week to prove himself in training.
Going on form and fitness before the break, the only guaranteed starters I can see right now are Phillips, Lockyer, Matthews, Cullen, Williams. I know some might argue for Bonne, but he wasn't an automatic starter when coming back from injury, and Pratley, who now has a bit more competition in midfield, particularly from JFC, who is a creative midfielder in a team in desperate need of creativity in midfield, and Field, who is better in possession.
Every other spot is up for grabs, and we don't know what formation we'll play against Hull.
Great, let's all dance around Taylor for a few weeks then let him slink off days before the Millwall game so we have to throw a new strike pairing together.
Yes he could score a few goals to help us stay up before he leaves, he's a good player but I hope Bowyer benches him
I wouldn’t even have him on the bench. Make a point. No one player is bigger than the team. He obviously doesn’t want to play so don’t play him. I’ve forgotten who he was anyway.
Great, let's all dance around Taylor for a few weeks then let him slink off days before the Millwall game so we have to throw a new strike pairing together.
Yes he could score a few goals to help us stay up before he leaves, he's a good player but I hope Bowyer benches him
I wouldn’t even have him on the bench. Make a point. No one player is bigger than the team. He obviously doesn’t want to play so don’t play him. I’ve forgotten who he was anyway.
I feel like a right twat now. Taylor’s unsent the message where he said no so I look like I’m having a conversation with myself🤣
How do you unsend a message ??? Once you've sent something its been sent It's done. Its history.
On Instagram you can hold down the message and you have the option to unsend
My point is.....once you've sent something it's done. Finished. If you mean you can retrieve it before the other person receives it then thats different. But the pp showed a msg exchange that clearly shows LT sent something.
Sorry I'm clogging up this thread but I like being pedantic. You cant "unsend" something that's been sent. Its like saying you can take back something you've said. Once it's out it's out.
So if LT had "unsent" something it means diddly squat.
I'd have him on the bench. With so many games in a small space of time we need all the help we can get, but he's not been in training and the players who have have earned the right to start and show what they can do. Also from a man-management point of view it sends the message that if you take the piss you don't get to walk straight back into the team, but if you try to make it right then Bowyer won't hold a grudge.
I feel like a right twat now. Taylor’s unsent the message where he said no so I look like I’m having a conversation with myself🤣
How do you unsend a message ??? Once you've sent something its been sent It's done. Its history.
On Instagram you can hold down the message and you have the option to unsend
My point is.....once you've sent something it's done. Finished. If you mean you can retrieve it before the other person receives it then thats different. But the pp showed a msg exchange that clearly shows LT sent something.
Sorry I'm clogging up this thread but I like being pedantic. You cant "unsend" something that's been sent. Its like saying you can take back something you've said. Once it's out it's out.
So if LT had "unsent" something it means diddly squat.
It's also pretty pointless as he will obviously have known the person he sent it to would screenshot it and show to others.
It's like when celebs post something on twitter and then later remove it. What's the point?
What will Taylor actually be putting effort in for?
Points? I don't think so. He's going to a different club after 3 games.
Keeping his place in the team? No
He loves Charlton? Not enough love. Obviously.
I don't actually know what would be motivating him.
He's already got a new club, so he doesn't feel a need to impress them.
He's just gana be jogging around
June wages is the only thing1that will motivate him to play. When he moves it will be the 15th club he has played for. No loyalty to anyone other than himself.
Great, let's all dance around Taylor for a few weeks then let him slink off days before the Millwall game so we have to throw a new strike pairing together.
Yes he could score a few goals to help us stay up before he leaves, he's a good player but I hope Bowyer benches him
I wouldn’t even have him on the bench. Make a point. No one player is bigger than the team. He obviously doesn’t want to play so don’t play him. I’ve forgotten who he was anyway.
Great, let's all dance around Taylor for a few weeks then let him slink off days before the Millwall game so we have to throw a new strike pairing together.
Yes he could score a few goals to help us stay up before he leaves, he's a good player but I hope Bowyer benches him
I wouldn’t even have him on the bench. Make a point. No one player is bigger than the team. He obviously doesn’t want to play so don’t play him. I’ve forgotten who he was anyway.
We really need to stay up
If we go down RD doesn’t get £1.5 million. There’s always an up to every down😉
I feel like a right twat now. Taylor’s unsent the message where he said no so I look like I’m having a conversation with myself🤣
How do you unsend a message ??? Once you've sent something its been sent It's done. Its history.
On Instagram you can hold down the message and you have the option to unsend
My point is.....once you've sent something it's done. Finished. If you mean you can retrieve it before the other person receives it then thats different. But the pp showed a msg exchange that clearly shows LT sent something.
Sorry I'm clogging up this thread but I like being pedantic. You cant "unsend" something that's been sent. Its like saying you can take back something you've said. Once it's out it's out.
So if LT had "unsent" something it means diddly squat.
It's also pretty pointless as he will obviously have known the person he sent it to would screenshot it and show to others.
It's like when celebs post something on twitter and then later remove it. What's the point?
Because deleting the post keeps the post topical. Hence me replying to a post about a deleted post, 24 hrs after the post was deleted!
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To study medical Science ?
There's 11 of our players on the pitch.
He can't control a game. He's probably a confused internal mess.
He doesn't want to get injured...so his effort will naturally just be withdrawn.
I promise you. He needs to go!
Because we will be better WITHOUT him.
Start again. Move on.
Freshen up. Wish him well.
Then at least try and stay in this league!!
Posting without reading
It's done. Its history.
We'll know in a weeks time & can judge then. Just hope that if he does play then he plays like we know he can & not half heartedly.
Even if he just goes training, I find that more acceptable. Better than going on strike.
I guess Bows has to judge if having Lyle around will help the strikers as a collective or harm team spirit.
@ricky_otto - you might well be pissed off as Bonne and Aneke. I see what you are saying.
Equally, Bows might be able to convince both of them that Lyle gives everyone a chance with him for the first 3. It is 3 less games for either of them 2 to break down with injury. They will still have to play a massive part whatever the decision.
Tough tough calls for LB.
Going on form and fitness before the break, the only guaranteed starters I can see right now are Phillips, Lockyer, Matthews, Cullen, Williams. I know some might argue for Bonne, but he wasn't an automatic starter when coming back from injury, and Pratley, who now has a bit more competition in midfield, particularly from JFC, who is a creative midfielder in a team in desperate need of creativity in midfield, and Field, who is better in possession.
Every other spot is up for grabs, and we don't know what formation we'll play against Hull.
Sorry I'm clogging up this thread but I like being pedantic. You cant "unsend" something that's been sent. Its like saying you can take back something you've said. Once it's out it's out.
So if LT had "unsent" something it means diddly squat.
Points? I don't think so. He's going to a different club after 3 games.
Keeping his place in the team? No
He loves Charlton? Not enough love. Obviously.
I don't actually know what would be motivating him.
He's already got a new club, so he doesn't feel a need to impress them.
He's just gana be jogging around
He will bottle his first 50/50 or even 60/40.
Hull defenders will be aware of what has gone on. He is going to get a lot of verbal about "breaking legs", even before he touches the ball.
I trust Bowyer to do what is best for the club
Elliott met with him on Friday and offered him a three year contract on five times what he was earning.
Bleedin' obvious innit.
It's like when celebs post something on twitter and then later remove it. What's the point?
When he moves it will be the 15th club he has played for.
No loyalty to anyone other than himself.