Amos
Gunter - Famewo - Pearce - Maatsen
Morgan - Watson - F.Caskey
Millar
Schwartz - Washington
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Bowyer Talks - Weekly press conference updates
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It's getting boring now.
Perhaps the reason the players didn't defend the throw in well was because they weren't used to the shape. The forward right winger (not sure what else to call his position) was well positioned to take the player who was taking the throw in. The defenders were out of position as they probably didn't know who to mark, the player in the middle or the other bloke who crossed it.
Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not the players fault after all.7 -
Although I "liked" your post I will say defending is not difficult. You look around for a player to mark (especially at a throw in) & talk to your fellow defenders to do the same. You don't have to be picking up the same opposition player each time but just making sure no opposition player is free. It's not rocket science. On tuesday evening they took a (quickish) throw & iirc the player receiving the throw was free - and then he was allowed to advance into the box without a challenge & get a cross in. 2 errors within the space of 5 seconds. It helped them that the cross was a good one & delivered from a great position. I bet you if that had been us the player receiving the throw would have passed it backwards to a player standing still who would have then attempted to cross it on the 45° angle, giving the defender an easier chance to clear.Bolderhumphreyreid said:It's getting boring now.
Perhaps the reason the players didn't defend the throw in well was because they weren't used to the shape. The forward right winger (not sure what else to call his position) was well positioned to take the player who was taking the throw in. The defenders were out of position as they probably didn't know who to mark, the player in the middle or the other bloke who crossed it.
Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not the players fault after all.1 -
We would have gonegolfaddick said:
Although I "liked" your post I will say defending is not difficult. You look around for a player to mark (especially at a throw in) & talk to your fellow defenders to do the same. You don't have to be picking up the same opposition player each time but just making sure no opposition player is free. It's not rocket science. On tuesday evening they took a (quickish) throw & iirc the player receiving the throw was free - and then he was allowed to advance into the box without a challenge & get a cross in. 2 errors within the space of 5 seconds. It helped them that the cross was a good one & delivered from a great position. I bet you if that had been us the player receiving the throw would have passed it backwards to a player standing still who would have then attempted to cross it on the 45° angle, giving the defender an easier chance to clear.Bolderhumphreyreid said:It's getting boring now.
Perhaps the reason the players didn't defend the throw in well was because they weren't used to the shape. The forward right winger (not sure what else to call his position) was well positioned to take the player who was taking the throw in. The defenders were out of position as they probably didn't know who to mark, the player in the middle or the other bloke who crossed it.
Perhaps, just perhaps, it's not the players fault after all.
- Throw in up the line,
- pass back to thrower
- pass to CB1
- pass to CB 2
- pass to opposite full back
- pass to CB1
- pass to CM
- pass to original thrower
- pass to Millar
- shot from silly angle but they have 10 men in the box ready and waiting,
- they clear it to their own man upfield
- CB1 bumps into CB2 whilst trying to block the attackers run,
- Amos makes a good 1-1 up close save conceding a corner and every creams at his worldie save,
- the corner we clear the first ball in
- then we're nowhere near the second drops to their bloke 25 yards
- Nobody is near enough to close him down
- he hits a shot with hope more than belief
- Amos chucks in a Hameresque dive for the cameras, but ultimately would have been better staying on his feet a second longer as the ball flies into the space he could have covered if he hadn't dived early.
Bowyer post match: "EvErYoNe SeEmS tO ScOrE wOrLdIeS hErE"13 -
Maybe the excuse list has been exhausted!clive said:1 -
2nd goal was unavoidable! Really? If our midfield and defence closed players down outside the box and stopped them from shooting then maybe we'd concede less "worldies" - I'm convinced that Bowyer told the team not to close down on the arrogant assumption that Lge 1 players would more often than not shoot it into row z because its seems to have been going on all season.MuttleyCAFC said:
Maybe the excuse list has been exhausted!clive said:3 -
I do understand what he meant about the second. Normally it would be a saveable shot or go over the bar, but the spin from the contact with Watson was unlucky. I don't think the Burton player meant it.0
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The second one was unavoidaable - nonsense, should have closed him down.
The Gillingham lad will never score such a good goal in his life yet Rob Lee who would know says he has a cracking shot and regularly scores great goals.
It is head in the sand stuff and a totally crazy way to go around things.
We are in shocking form and if we had 6 points or so less I would actually be looking firmly over our shoulder. Talk of Playoffs is laughable.2 -
Was the goal or shot unavoidable. Think we all know the answer.0
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He should have been closed down quicker.MuttleyCAFC said:I do understand what he meant about the second. Normally it would be a saveable shot or go over the bar, but the spin from the contact with Watson was unlucky. I don't think the Burton player meant it.2 - Sponsored links:
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this is L1 not the Prem, do not expect too much0
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That second goal anyone could see he was lining up to have a crack, no one ran towards him to put a tackle/block in. Everyone was just backing off.1
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So many of those this season, I don’t understand sacrificing creativity for a “solid” midfield but still not closing down shots from range.boggzy said:That second goal anyone could see he was lining up to have a crack, no one ran towards him to put a tackle/block in. Everyone was just backing off.2 -
I thought he was being closed down and the ball was deflected (off Watson?). Maybe wrong as I have tried to block the game from my memory!boggzy said:That second goal anyone could see he was lining up to have a crack, no one ran towards him to put a tackle/block in. Everyone was just backing off.0 -
True, but there are always a few of these every game that don't normally result in goals. Just saying there was a degree of bad luck to it but I didn't think we deserved anything from the game personally considering we were at home to the bottom side. Big them up all you like, the fact they are the bottom side and they have done the double over us doesn't change!LargeAddick said:
He should have been closed down quicker.MuttleyCAFC said:I do understand what he meant about the second. Normally it would be a saveable shot or go over the bar, but the spin from the contact with Watson was unlucky. I don't think the Burton player meant it.0 -
Anyone recall when we last scored a goal from outside the box?0
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Maddison against Plymouth?BigRedEvil said:Anyone recall when we last scored a goal from outside the box?0 -
Well, we wont be doing that again then we will !!ForeverAddickted said:
Maddison against Plymouth?BigRedEvil said:Anyone recall when we last scored a goal from outside the box?0 -
The Addicks boss provided an injury update ahead of the trip to the Kassam Stadium after Chuks Aneke was forced off with a hamstring complaint in midweek.
"Chuks is fine," Bowyer explained.
"He has a bight of tightness, but he’s OK. Jake Forster-Caskey is also fine. Nothing to worry about for this weekend. Alex Gilbey will hopefully be back training next week.
"Ryan Inniss will be training with the group next week. His last scan was all clear, he’s been outside for a while and he’ll be back training with us as possible.”
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good news for Innissclive said:The Addicks boss provided an injury update ahead of the trip to the Kassam Stadium after Chuks Aneke was forced off with a hamstring complaint in midweek.
"Chuks is fine," Bowyer explained.
"He has a bight of tightness, but he’s OK. Jake Forster-Caskey is also fine. Nothing to worry about for this weekend. Alex Gilbey will hopefully be back training next week.
"Ryan Inniss will be training with the group next week. His last scan was all clear, he’s been outside for a while and he’ll be back training with us as possible.”
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Best bring him in now, must be wet through seeing as he's been "outside for a while". 😄stonemuse said:
good news for Innissclive said:The Addicks boss provided an injury update ahead of the trip to the Kassam Stadium after Chuks Aneke was forced off with a hamstring complaint in midweek.
"Chuks is fine," Bowyer explained.
"He has a bight of tightness, but he’s OK. Jake Forster-Caskey is also fine. Nothing to worry about for this weekend. Alex Gilbey will hopefully be back training next week.
"Ryan Inniss will be training with the group next week. His last scan was all clear, he’s been outside for a while and he’ll be back training with us as possible.”
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Now Virgil Van Inniss is back thats HMS piss the league back afloat!7
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We joke but it's not so much that Inniss and Famewo are total geniuses, it's that they don't make embarrassingly bad mistakes every week. Putting Famewo in halved the amount of ridiculous nonsense going on. It's a shame that Deji decided to Dej all over the place last weekend and mess up for the first two goals, but Pearce turned up on Tuesday and we kept a clean sheet. When we've had Pearce and Deji in there, or players playing out of position we've made some absolutely catastrophic errors that have gifted goals to the opposition. When we had Inniss and Famewo together they just didn't make a lot of mistakes and we kept clean sheets. Hopefully next season we can get in a few CBs who can regularly go 90 minutes without doing something daftDamoNorthStand said:Now Virgil Van Inniss is back thats HMS piss the league back afloat!
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Kindly leave the stage...golfaddick said:
Best bring him in now, must be wet through seeing as he's been "outside for a while". 😄stonemuse said:
good news for Innissclive said:The Addicks boss provided an injury update ahead of the trip to the Kassam Stadium after Chuks Aneke was forced off with a hamstring complaint in midweek.
"Chuks is fine," Bowyer explained.
"He has a bight of tightness, but he’s OK. Jake Forster-Caskey is also fine. Nothing to worry about for this weekend. Alex Gilbey will hopefully be back training next week.
"Ryan Inniss will be training with the group next week. His last scan was all clear, he’s been outside for a while and he’ll be back training with us as possible.”
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Sounds like they need a cat flap and a bloody big one!clive said:The Addicks boss provided an injury update ahead of the trip to the Kassam Stadium after Chuks Aneke was forced off with a hamstring complaint in midweek.
"Chuks is fine," Bowyer explained.
"He has a bight of tightness, but he’s OK. Jake Forster-Caskey is also fine. Nothing to worry about for this weekend. Alex Gilbey will hopefully be back training next week.
"Ryan Inniss will be training with the group next week. His last scan was all clear, he’s been outside for a while and he’ll be back training with us as possible.”
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Quotes from Bowyer's presser this morn coming up (All from Benjy Nurick)...
Team News: Akin Famewo is ok. Will train today, and "hopefully be in and around the team for the weekend." Ryan Inniss: He’ll train again today, tomorrow, and then will be assessed. #cafc
Gilbey: "Looked really good in training before his recent injury - really stood out.” Now he’s back training, but may need some mins with the U23s Adam Matthews: Won’t be too long. Maybe a week, 10 days, two weeks tops. “Gotta manage all the players.” #cafc
On building self-belief: "It’s always important to get over that hurdle - losing or getting disappointing results at home is definitely not like us. We’ve been the opposite in the past. And then to be under that pressure, you have to praise the players... #cafc
"Because there would have been that pressure. They’re not silly, they know what’s been happening at home has not been good enough. They all stood up and carried their away form from the two games previous into Tuesday. And I thought it was a very good performance." #cafc
"Those are the basics of the game. And that’s what we did on Tuesday - every single person won their individual battles. And when we do that we’re a very good side. When we come off that and lose them battles we become an average side." #cafc
On Shrewsbury: "They play three at the back. Big, solid, they’re a solid team. I remember when we played them away it was a tough game. If you cross the ball and cross the ball, that’s their strength. They’ve got three big lumps who just head everything away. #cafc
"I think the goal we scored up there was a good goal - something we’d worked on. But going forward they look to hit you on the break. But it will be a tough game, they’re not a bad side at all." #cafc
On recent change in atmosphere around the squad: "When you win games it changes the atmosphere automatically. For everybody, not just the players - for staff, fans. When things ain’t going so well everyone can get down. Because everyone wants the same outcome. #cafc
"Everyone wants to win every game, everyone wants to win 10-0, be amazing, be straightforward. But since I’ve been here it’s never been straightforward, everything happens the hard way. And this season is turning out to be no different. #cafc
"But the most important thing is that the players can feel it. Deep down they know - couple of clean sheets, unlucky not keep another one the other day, nearly three on the spin. So yeah, they recognise this is us, this is what we’re about. #cafc
"And they know when we do that we have a very good chance of winning. The players are in a better place, in a good place at the moment, so hopefully, that continues." #cafc
This week last year ESI 1 imploded publically. Asked Bowyer about all that, Thomas Sandgaard, and looking forward: "I don’t really like dwelling on the past, especially negative things. The club is in a better place, we all know that.
"There were things going on, off the field stuff we couldn’t control...it wasn’t good. There was a lot of negativity brought around the football club. But that’s done. That’s done. We can’t change any of that. I wish it was different. #cafc
"I wish we had the right people come in and help us in Jan like we were promised, but that didn’t happen. But to look at the positive side, we now do have a man - Thomas - who has the right intentions. And wants to take the club forward. I wish that happened last year! #cafc
"But let’s look at the positive - we have a man that wants to take the club forward and improve things. And he’s doing that. There's a lot of things you guys won’t see. There’s improvements happening at the training ground to help things. #cafc
"And I believe there will be other stuff through the summer which is only going to improve the facilities and enable us to do things better here and be more professional and prepare better. But all this has come from Thomas and I just wish he was here last year! #cafc
"But most important thing is he’s here now and now the club can start rebuilding. Trust me - you don’t know how bad it really was here. Most important thing is we’re moving forward." #cafc
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Considering recently we have been direct or have looked to get it out wide and cross it in I wonder if we will change our tactics for this game.ForeverAddickted said:
On Shrewsbury: "They play three at the back. Big, solid, they’re a solid team. I remember when we played them away it was a tough game. If you cross the ball and cross the ball, that’s their strength. They’ve got three big lumps who just head everything away. #cafc
Maybe even start Aneke and Schwartz/Washington and look to run the channels.3 -
If LB thinks they have 3 big lumps at the back that just keep heading crosses away all day it will be interesting to see if he moves away from the long ball tactic of recent weeks and starts with Ronnie & Washington. I know we have been doing ok recently but I personally would like to see Ronnie get a run of starts.1
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I'd be absolutely stunned if he did that, but I would be mega pleased.AndyG said:If LB thinks they have 3 big lumps at the back that just keep heading crosses away all day it will be interesting to see if he moves away from the long ball tactic of recent weeks and starts with Ronnie & Washington. I know we have been doing ok recently but I personally would like to see Ronnie get a run of starts.
a 4-3-1-2 may work well for that1 -
If they're three big lumps, more important Washington, Morgan and Millar get around them. Stockley can occupy two central defenders, it's the outside channels we need to work in and get them turning. Same team for me, just start Millar on the left and Morgan on the right.1
