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  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Important not to forget we had signed pretty much the whole squad before pre-season and they all had a chance to go and train in Spain together. Members of that squad regularly mention that the pre-season trip was the catalyst in us being such a good team. They were all mates off the pitch as well, which very rarely happens in football. 

    We also had very few injuries in that entire season, and if players did get injured it was weeks rather than months. 

    That all makes a huge difference in building relationships on the pitch and a manager understanding the best XI. 

    That squad was everything this squad isn’t. I remember the final game at the Valley, I was told by multiple people to savour this moment as it will likely never happen again - how right they were! 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Oggy Red said:
    I think the last couple of games proceeding Hartlepool. I can't remember exactly but I was hoping for about 105 points which we fell a little short of. Not complaining btw. 
    I remember we were disappointed that we only drew 2-2 away at Preston, last away game was it?


    We were 2-0 up as well
    Agh......sounds familiar.😏😏😏
  • Oggy Red said:
    I think the last couple of games proceeding Hartlepool. I can't remember exactly but I was hoping for about 105 points which we fell a little short of. Not complaining btw. 
    I remember we were disappointed that we only drew 2-2 away at Preston, last away game was it?


    Most awesome season points wise in my lifetime and we still Charlton’d the last game.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Oggy Red said:
    I think the last couple of games proceeding Hartlepool. I can't remember exactly but I was hoping for about 105 points which we fell a little short of. Not complaining btw. 
    I remember we were disappointed that we only drew 2-2 away at Preston, last away game was it?


    Most awesome season points wise in my lifetime and we still Charlton’d the last game.

    Not quite the last game, remember Hartlepool, their Smurfs, a packed Valley, parachutists and Yann's wonder goal?
    We won 3-2.


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Oggy Red said:
    I think the last couple of games proceeding Hartlepool. I can't remember exactly but I was hoping for about 105 points which we fell a little short of. Not complaining btw. 
    I remember we were disappointed that we only drew 2-2 away at Preston, last away game was it?


    yeah, correct.
  • hawksmoor
    hawksmoor Posts: 2,608
    What Oggy said, that was the last game of that season. Didn't he rest a few players for the Preston game?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    hawksmoor said:
    What Oggy said, that was the last game of that season. Didn't he rest a few players for the Preston game?
    Yep, Hawksy .... Powell gave a few of the fringe players a run out.

    As Mutts said, we should have won leading 2-0 but you know, we're Charlton, super Charlton ........



  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    edited January 2021
    Oggy Red said:
    I think the last couple of games proceeding Hartlepool. I can't remember exactly but I was hoping for about 105 points which we fell a little short of. Not complaining btw. 
    I remember we were disappointed that we only drew 2-2 away at Preston, last away game was it?


    yeah, correct.
    Went to it at Deepdale - didn’t Graham Alexander score with his last kick in professional football near enough? We basically wrote him his dream script 
  • Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
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  • Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
  • Sod playing Akin this weekend... Rest him until Rochdale or even the following game - Would rather risk two more games without him and have for the rest of the season rather than have him for two games and lose him for the rest of the season
  • Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
    How do you ease a centre half back into a team? Would that be one match in the side and one match rested, or would that be bringing him on a half-time or 60th mins? 

    Any other position on the pitch I agree but not sure how you do that with a centre defender without causing chaos during a match.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
    But you can, playing Championship Manager. :smile:



  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    I bought the Portsmouth Stream area which usually allows me to watch the pre-match conference but saying I don't have sufficient permissions. Have they changed this?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
    How do you ease a centre half back into a team? Would that be one match in the side and one match rested, or would that be bringing him on a half-time or 60th mins? 

    Any other position on the pitch I agree but not sure how you do that with a centre defender without causing chaos during a match.

    Yes bring him on with 15 mins to go, then 30 mins etc, if appropriate.
  • Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
    How do you ease a centre half back into a team? Would that be one match in the side and one match rested, or would that be bringing him on a half-time or 60th mins? 

    Any other position on the pitch I agree but not sure how you do that with a centre defender without causing chaos during a match.

    Maybe give him the last 10-15 minutes if we're defending a lead on Saturday, perhaps give him 45 minutes in the U23 game v Millwall on Monday, then look to start him v Rochdale.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,455
    I bought the Portsmouth Stream area which usually allows me to watch the pre-match conference but saying I don't have sufficient permissions. Have they changed this?
    Bowyer’s full pre-match press conference will be available to Valley Pass subscribers on Thursday. Click here to purchase Valley Pass.
    Maybe try again later.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Tough one with Famewo as Saturday is a big game but not sure whether it is worth risking him if he is not 100%. Could be worth giving one more week until Rochdale. However, it will be a huge boost for everyone if he can play against Pompey.
    No way do you throw a guy who's been out for weeks straight back into the side, he needs to be eased back in. I think he's made 1 start since October.
    How do you ease a centre half back into a team? Would that be one match in the side and one match rested, or would that be bringing him on a half-time or 60th mins? 

    Any other position on the pitch I agree but not sure how you do that with a centre defender without causing chaos during a match.

    I'd consider giving him 10=15 mins at LB for his first team return. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    I bought the Portsmouth Stream area which usually allows me to watch the pre-match conference but saying I don't have sufficient permissions. Have they changed this?
    No. You've been barred on Valley Pass because you don't agree with Bowyer, Muttley.

    The Comms team read Charlton Life, you know. :smile:


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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Pearce has had his chance and stuffed it while our best Left sided CB is near return. 
  • 801912601
    801912601 Posts: 620
    No injury update for Maddison then?
  • 801912601 said:
    No injury update for Maddison then?
    Still ticking boxes. 
  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,768
    801912601 said:
    No injury update for Maddison then?
    Quite shocking behaviour from a manager really IMO
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,188
    Genuinely completely forgot about maddison for 2 weeks
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    2121 said:
    Genuinely completely forgot about maddison for 2 weeks
    So has LB too!! 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Taxi_Lad said:
    801912601 said:
    No injury update for Maddison then?
    Quite shocking behaviour from a manager really IMO
    ? We were told that he is over his injury and had a cold or something.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Redrobo said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    801912601 said:
    No injury update for Maddison then?
    Quite shocking behaviour from a manager really IMO
    ? We were told that he is over his injury and had a cold or something.
    If Maddison isn't training at the mo, then until he does, he's far away from the Matchday squad.


  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,170
    Redrobo said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    801912601 said:
    No injury update for Maddison then?
    Quite shocking behaviour from a manager really IMO
    ? We were told that he is over his injury and had a cold or something.
    I just don't think he can be arsed.  Making excuses not to come back into training - taking the money and playing everyone along.  I don't know - its Just my opinion.  The previous falling out he had with manager or team or life or whatever meant that Ferguson said he would never play for them again - and he didn't.  Personally think its an attitude problem...
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    Oggy Red said:
    Keep thinking about Gilbey's nosedive in form, compared to the first couple of the games of the season when he was very influential - before he got injured.

    I watched Gilbey carefully in the 1st half v Rochdale ....... and while he put in a better overall performance than many will give him credit for, he disappointed at certain key moments.

    He's really struggling with lost mobility and quickness of feet, typical of players trying to come back from achilles injury.


    Achilles damage is a real bugger of an injury, very unpredictable to assess how long before 100% recovery ..... and I remember myself, having picked up the injury and missing 6 weeks, despite playing every week afterwards it was really a year before I felt fully recovered.

    And for players who rupture the achilles, that can be the end for some. Remember Man Utd wonderkid Norman Whiteside back in the 80s? A year out with achilles injury and never the same player again, retired at 26. And we all recall our own John Fortune rupturing his achilles at home v Palace - missed the rest of the season and when he finally returned, had lost all pace and quick turning ability.

    Achilles can be a nasty injury. And to my eyes, it's no surprise that Gilbey is struggling to recover his previous form.


    Wasn't it an achilles injury that Igor Vetokele got for us as well. When he finally returned he was never quite the same. 

    It's what did for Kashi too. Our most dynamic and important player in the Championship to third division football in France off a badly handled achilles injury