"The Wheels of Justice."
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There wasn't a trial because he pleaded guilty.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
So there was a trial and the judge didn't follow correct procedure, even worse in my opinion.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
He hasn't been put in prison without trial so please don't make things up - the trial judge didn't follow procedures correctly so because we have rule of law he's been released. He's talked copious amounts of bullshit about his treatment to get attention and to portray himself as a victim.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, I know what you was saying I just didn't understand the use of the word millenials.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
No I was just making a point about 'snowflakes' and how the hard men of the right seem to love going on how hard done by they are.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Are "millenials" a political movement then?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Nice to see Stephen now comparing himself to inmates at Guantanamo Bay - really bigging up his victim status. I'm assuming next he'll claim to have been waterboarded.
People call millenials 'snowflakes' but the far right seem to be out doing them. They are going all out to portray themselves as victims.
And now you're saying the "hard men of the right", you're being very stereotypical in your views if you dont mind me saying.
Imo Anyone can be accused of being a snowflake and I think people from both sides can be referred to as one but, I thought it's usually when they become really offended by something quite trivial in an opposing argument. Someone, however, making noises because they believe they've been put in prison unlawfully and without trial (whether it's TR, or anyone else), doesn't really qualify as a snowflake imo.
It makes me laugh when those on the extremes ramble on about unfair treatment when you know if they got into power they would be censoring everybody.
I'm not really stereotyping the far right - the same characters have popped up supporting the National Front, BNP, British Movement, EDL etc during my lifetime and violence/intimidation has been a common theme.
Have you not seen the violence and intimidation from ANTIFA and Anarcists against people with differing views to their own?0 -
So everything was done correctly thenLawrieAbrahams said:
There wasn't a trial because he pleaded guilty.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
So there was a trial and the judge didn't follow correct procedure, even worse in my opinion.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
He hasn't been put in prison without trial so please don't make things up - the trial judge didn't follow procedures correctly so because we have rule of law he's been released. He's talked copious amounts of bullshit about his treatment to get attention and to portray himself as a victim.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, I know what you was saying I just didn't understand the use of the word millenials.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
No I was just making a point about 'snowflakes' and how the hard men of the right seem to love going on how hard done by they are.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Are "millenials" a political movement then?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Nice to see Stephen now comparing himself to inmates at Guantanamo Bay - really bigging up his victim status. I'm assuming next he'll claim to have been waterboarded.
People call millenials 'snowflakes' but the far right seem to be out doing them. They are going all out to portray themselves as victims.
And now you're saying the "hard men of the right", you're being very stereotypical in your views if you dont mind me saying.
Imo Anyone can be accused of being a snowflake and I think people from both sides can be referred to as one but, I thought it's usually when they become really offended by something quite trivial in an opposing argument. Someone, however, making noises because they believe they've been put in prison unlawfully and without trial (whether it's TR, or anyone else), doesn't really qualify as a snowflake imo.
It makes me laugh when those on the extremes ramble on about unfair treatment when you know if they got into power they would be censoring everybody.
I'm not really stereotyping the far right - the same characters have popped up supporting the National Front, BNP, British Movement, EDL etc during my lifetime and violence/intimidation has been a common theme.
Have you not seen the violence and intimidation from ANTIFA and Anarcists against people with differing views to their own?1 -
What exactly do you mean by that young Greenster?Greenie Junior said:
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He's no stranger to bullshit.LawrieAbrahams said:..
Said he was in solitary for two months, which is bullshit. He was kept in segregation for two days while they assessed the risk to his safety.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Nice to see Stephen now comparing himself to inmates at Guantanamo Bay - really bigging up his victim status. I'm assuming next he'll claim to have been waterboarded.
People call millenials 'snowflakes' but the far right seem to be out doing them. They are going all out to portray themselves as victims.
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What a prize see you next tuesday.Friend Or Defoe said:He used the name Stephen on his complaints about not having a TV in Prison.
Sounds almost as bad as Gammontanamo bay with this mental torture.
Oh no the mental torture of no tv.2 -
Poor guy, no tv :-(Friend Or Defoe said:He used the name Stephen on his complaints about not having a TV in Prison.
Sounds almost as bad as Gammontanamo bay with this mental torture.0 -
a lot of people complain about having no tv's i do a lot of work with housing associations and when a new home is given to someone all brand spankers appliances, widescreen tellys etc.
i think prisons should be places of punishment not cushy lifestyles, off subject but there was a guy yesterday only managed to be in the country for 3 years before raping someone now sentenced to 16 years inside so 3 square meals a day, tvs, pool tables etc, when asked why he done it his response was why not, surely many cannot argue on this fella being returned to where ever he came from instead of costing the british taxpayer £640,000 to home this piece of shit for the next 16 years if a full sentance is served.1 -
He wants to watch EastEnders, which is even more mental torture.paulie8290 said:
What a prize see you next tuesday.Friend Or Defoe said:He used the name Stephen on his complaints about not having a TV in Prison.
Sounds almost as bad as Gammontanamo bay with this mental torture.
Oh no the mental torture of no tv.0 -
Really? Which Housing Associations do this? Genuinely interested. Appliances I can see in certain circumstances, like if it is a hostel. But TVs?palarsehater said:a lot of people complain about having no tv's i do a lot of work with housing associations and when a new home is given to someone all brand spankers appliances, widescreen tellys etc.
i think prisons should be places of punishment not cushy lifestyles, off subject but there was a guy yesterday only managed to be in the country for 3 years before raping someone now sentenced to 16 years inside so 3 square meals a day, tvs, pool tables etc, when asked why he done it his response was why not, surely many cannot argue on this fella being returned to where ever he came from instead of costing the british taxpayer £640,000 to home this piece of shit for the next 16 years if a full sentance is served.
On TVs in jails, I thought they were encouraged inside as it makes people more docile and is another threat the governors have over prisoners, i.e. behave or we'll have your TV away.
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No, the Court of Appeal have ajudged that he should be resentenced by a different judge. Keep up.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
So everything was done correctly thenLawrieAbrahams said:
There wasn't a trial because he pleaded guilty.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
So there was a trial and the judge didn't follow correct procedure, even worse in my opinion.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
He hasn't been put in prison without trial so please don't make things up - the trial judge didn't follow procedures correctly so because we have rule of law he's been released. He's talked copious amounts of bullshit about his treatment to get attention and to portray himself as a victim.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, I know what you was saying I just didn't understand the use of the word millenials.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
No I was just making a point about 'snowflakes' and how the hard men of the right seem to love going on how hard done by they are.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Are "millenials" a political movement then?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Nice to see Stephen now comparing himself to inmates at Guantanamo Bay - really bigging up his victim status. I'm assuming next he'll claim to have been waterboarded.
People call millenials 'snowflakes' but the far right seem to be out doing them. They are going all out to portray themselves as victims.
And now you're saying the "hard men of the right", you're being very stereotypical in your views if you dont mind me saying.
Imo Anyone can be accused of being a snowflake and I think people from both sides can be referred to as one but, I thought it's usually when they become really offended by something quite trivial in an opposing argument. Someone, however, making noises because they believe they've been put in prison unlawfully and without trial (whether it's TR, or anyone else), doesn't really qualify as a snowflake imo.
It makes me laugh when those on the extremes ramble on about unfair treatment when you know if they got into power they would be censoring everybody.
I'm not really stereotyping the far right - the same characters have popped up supporting the National Front, BNP, British Movement, EDL etc during my lifetime and violence/intimidation has been a common theme.
Have you not seen the violence and intimidation from ANTIFA and Anarcists against people with differing views to their own?0 -
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Good! Although I would of personally like to have seen them swing sentences were pathetic and a polite fuck off to the victims.Callumcafc said:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-45114152
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Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.0
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Do you often get told to keep a low profile during trials? Seems to be what Stephen is being put on trial for.McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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No, not usually. Sometimes if there's a terror trial we are warned, and the road has been closed once or twice. The IRA set off a bomb outside the old bailey once, but that was long ago. It's not really a target. This trial because the last one was screwed up, but it become a big issue for some people. I think it is difficult to untangle all the seperate and competing issuesFriend Or Defoe said:
Do you often get told to keep a low profile during trials? Seems to be what Stephen is being put on trial for.McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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Fair enough, thought that would be the case.0
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I thought he was on trial for NOT keeping a low profile!Friend Or Defoe said:
Do you often get told to keep a low profile during trials? Seems to be what Stephen is being put on trial for.McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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To be fair, I don't ever feel the need to "go loco" outside criminal courts, despite all the lovely video cameras0
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are the protesters pro or anti Robinson ?McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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Pro according the the grauniad, though that doesn't rule out the presence anti-robinson protestors. I'd be happy if neither turned up.Lincsaddick said:
are the protesters pro or anti Robinson ?McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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thanksMcBobbin said:
Pro according the the grauniad, though that doesn't rule out the presence anti-robinson protestors. I'd be happy if neither turned up.Lincsaddick said:
are the protesters pro or anti Robinson ?McBobbin said:Having his retrial today, about 150 protesters present. This is directly outside my office, so I won't be impressed if any of my colleagues are intimidated (we were told to keep a low profile). Luckily I'm not at work today. Bottom line, he deserves a fair trial even if he was intendet on comprising that for others. Hope whatever happens today is fair and based on all of the evidence, whatever that outcome may be.
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Ah, so there were 30 or so anti protesters. Here's a report https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/27/tommy-robinson-to-appear-at-old-bailey-for-fresh-contempt-of-court-hearing
Seems it was peaceful enough, which is good.1 -
The pro-Tommy group were protesting/shouting/blocking traffic along Ludgate Hill outside City Thameslink station earlier. Had to fight my way through to get my lunch, so annoying!0
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peaceful non event tbh - which i am sure will annoy a few why was there no union jacks being flown and racial insults being shouted?0
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I don't think the verdict has been read out yet!palarsehater said:peaceful non event tbh - which i am sure will annoy a few why was there no union jacks being flown and racial insults being shouted?
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Where do these people find the time?!!!McBobbin said:Ah, so there were 30 or so anti protesters. Here's a report https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/27/tommy-robinson-to-appear-at-old-bailey-for-fresh-contempt-of-court-hearing
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I saw a bloke wearing a union jack suit if that helps.palarsehater said:peaceful non event tbh - which i am sure will annoy a few why was there no union jacks being flown and racial insults being shouted?
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Trigger the libs by being law abiding citizens.0
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Would you employ them?ValleyGary said:
Where do these people find the time?!!!McBobbin said:Ah, so there were 30 or so anti protesters. Here's a report https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/27/tommy-robinson-to-appear-at-old-bailey-for-fresh-contempt-of-court-hearing
Seems it was peaceful enough, which is good.1 -
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I saw a bloke wearing a union jack suit if that helps.palarsehater said:peaceful non event tbh - which i am sure will annoy a few why was there no union jacks being flown and racial insults being shouted?
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There was three slobs doing Nazi salutes pictured, cretins ruin it for the peaceful ones because despite them making up about 1% of the protest the whole thing will now get the arbitrary “far right fascist” label by the usual outlets.1
