100% Leaburn - had a great touch and brain just didn't have the physique to be an explosive striker - Magennis has the opposite - all physique, limited ability.
The memory may have dimmed over time but I’ll always maintain that I witnessed Carlo score a Barnes-in-Brazil-esque goal away at Southend in a 2-0 win. Sublime. Possibly.
Carl Leaburn over Josh but both players were false number 9's. Leaburn only scored 1 goal every 7 matches. The only time he got in double figures for a season was with Rob Lee's help. Times are so bad that the rose coloured glasses are out. Carl was a lovely fella and foil for a goalscorer but non scoring strikers just put more pressure on the midfield.
I know this sounds stupid but Leaburn would have been possibly a really great player if he was shorter. He was tall so used for his height but he had a lovely touch and could dribble but had no pace. Very underrated footballer.
Carl Leaburn over Josh but both players were false number 9's. Leaburn only scored 1 goal every 7 matches. The only time he got in double figures for a season was with Rob Lee's help. Times are so bad that the rose coloured glasses are out. Carl was a lovely fella and foil for a goalscorer but non scoring strikers just put more pressure on the midfield.
Yes, there are some very rosy memories of Carl here really.
I guess that's the nature of football, if you like the person you remember the good bits, if you don't like them, you remember the bad bits. Pardew (a midfielder) has much better goalscoring stats than Leaburn, but because he's a **** it's been forgotten!
Pardew scored the winner for us in a 4-3 win against Newcastle after being 3 nil down, that match has been erased from history because of old big nose.
Leanurn all day long, I’m betting centre halves hated playing against him with those long gangly legs. I said back then he would be my first name on the team sheets.
This isn't even a debate, for me. I don't get what Magennis offers. Leaburn was a real problem for defences, even when not scoring
He offers exactly the same as Leaburn but has the issue of being expected to be the main striker..only ignorance cant see that
Carl was a target man as the ball stuck with him (sometimes) Josh always tries hard but his first touch is more erratic. Plus lone striker when not a natural goal scorer is tough going. (For fans as well as Josh)
His hat trick at Ipswich will always live in the memory, one of the best Charlton away games ever.
part of surely the greatest away week in the club's history with the 4-5 win at wimbledon/selhurst as well
Leaburn all the way, an absolute legend
Best bit about the Wimbledon game was for some reason the 'S' had fallen off the back of Vinnie Jones's shirt. Shouting "OI, JOAN!" at him all game was great fun.
This isn't even a debate, for me. I don't get what Magennis offers. Leaburn was a real problem for defences, even when not scoring
He offers exactly the same as Leaburn but has the issue of being expected to be the main striker..only ignorance cant see that
Leaburn only got better when Garry Nelson joined the club in 1991 and he had an experienced head that worked the channels and talked the big man through a game plus Curbishley and Gritt telling the wide players to put balls on Carlo's head. 14 goals that season was the break through for him.
If Magennis played in a 4-4-2 with the same tactics as in that 91/92 season then he would be just as good.
Sadly we have an idiot in charge so that won't change until he walks.
This isn't even a debate, for me. I don't get what Magennis offers. Leaburn was a real problem for defences, even when not scoring
He offers exactly the same as Leaburn but has the issue of being expected to be the main striker..only ignorance cant see that
Leaburn only got better when Garry Nelson joined the club in 1991 and he had an experienced head that worked the channels and talked the big man through a game plus Curbishley and Gritt telling the wide players to put balls on Carlo's head. 14 goals that season was the break through for him.
If Magennis played in a 4-4-2 with the same tactics as in that 91/92 season then he would be just as good.
Sadly we have an idiot in charge so that won't change until he walks.
Partly agree, bus disagree if Magennis played in a two he'd be as good as Leaburn. Leaburn's all round play, his ability to hold up the ball was far superior to Magennis although i've no doubt if you put the ball on Magennis's head 6 yards out he'll score. Magennis is playing in a very poor league, Leaburn would have scored a lot more in this division and been a very decent player.
This isn't even a debate, for me. I don't get what Magennis offers. Leaburn was a real problem for defences, even when not scoring
He offers exactly the same as Leaburn but has the issue of being expected to be the main striker..only ignorance cant see that
Leaburn only got better when Garry Nelson joined the club in 1991 and he had an experienced head that worked the channels and talked the big man through a game plus Curbishley and Gritt telling the wide players to put balls on Carlo's head. 14 goals that season was the break through for him.
If Magennis played in a 4-4-2 with the same tactics as in that 91/92 season then he would be just as good.
Sadly we have an idiot in charge so that won't change until he walks.
Partly agree, bus disagree if Magennis played in a two he'd be as good as Leaburn. Leaburn's all round play, his ability to hold up the ball was far superior to Magennis although i've no doubt if you put the ball on Magennis's head 6 yards out he'll score. Magennis is playing in a very poor league, Leaburn would have scored a lot more in this division and been a very decent player.
Leaburn got better service though. In 91/92 we had Robert Lee on one side and Colin Walsh on the other, 2 first division/PL standard wide midfield players, plus the likes of Scott Minto and Garry Nelson.
Magennis isn't as good in the air as Leaburn (he isn't as good at finding space and attacking space) but he's definitely better on the floor. Leaburn for a striker had a very weak shot.
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Leaburn all the way, an absolute legend
Many were singing "Carl Leaburn He's a W****r, He's a W****r, He's a W****r" repeated ad-infinitum.
Respect
New topic for debate, Barry Endean or Clive Mendonca?
Absolutely loved Carl Leaburn when I was a kid.
I guess that's the nature of football, if you like the person you remember the good bits, if you don't like them, you remember the bad bits. Pardew (a midfielder) has much better goalscoring stats than Leaburn, but because he's a **** it's been forgotten!
If Magennis played in a 4-4-2 with the same tactics as in that 91/92 season then he would be just as good.
Sadly we have an idiot in charge so that won't change until he walks.
Magennis isn't as good in the air as Leaburn (he isn't as good at finding space and attacking space) but he's definitely better on the floor. Leaburn for a striker had a very weak shot.