Looking at the scorecard, the innings really lost momentum when Kuhn got out. Denly was great with the ball, but struggled with the bat, 12 in 23 balls. Dickson then only got 30 in 41, and combined with DBD who was batting steadily rather than dominating the bowling, it meant that the run rate started falling behind, with the middle order forced to take risks with their shot selection and running.
Maybe the order should have been tweaked to bring in a striker like Billings or Blake when Denly was out?
Looking at the scorecard, the innings really lost momentum when Kuhn got out. Denly was great with the ball, but struggled with the bat, 12 in 23 balls. Dickson then only got 30 in 41, and combined with DBD who was batting steadily rather than dominating the bowling, it meant that the run rate started falling behind, with the middle order forced to take risks with their shot selection and running.
Maybe the order should have been tweaked to bring in a striker like Billings or Blake when Denly was out?
Hindsight is great but I am sure that Kent thought that it was a 20/20 game at over 30 with wickets in hand. Blake and Billings could have destroyed them at this stage.
Wasn't to be so maybe they should have brought a striker in - I thought the same at the time as it was so stale overs 10 - 25. Couldn't believe that DBD was going at a run a ball really. Denley scratched around and just got frustrated with that shot.
Fine margins... Bet Kent wished they had done something different in hindsight. Bet Blake was absolutely gutted getting out, looked 2 runs at the time, still think it was now - some arm - didn't go over shoulder height all the way to the wicket.
Thought that 3 young English players batted very well,...Alsop,Northeast and Billings - Billings clearly loves the big stage and Alsop and Northeast showed that they have 'it' to perform at a higher level. To a certain extent it was unfortunate that noone could stay with Billings else it might have been a bit closer.
Kent were unlucky to a degree with a couple of run outs and naive in another couple where unless your senior and more experienced partner tells you otherwise- you run! The crucial wicket for me was Kuhn. Needless dismissal as another 10 or so overs with him and I’d fancy we’d have been there or thereabouts.
Summary: 4 run outs in an innings = 4 self inflicted wounds and you don't win if you do that to yourself!
Brief Report: An enjoyable day of 50 over cricket even though the result was wrong from the perspective of Kent fans. At one point when Hampshire batted the pitch looked so innocuous and the Hampshire batsmen so dominant that 400 plus looked a real possibility. A combination of Stevo. Qayyum and most of all part time bowler Joe Denly combined to peg Hampshire back and in the circumstances containing Hampshire to 330 looked to be a decent achievement.
Kent batted and, similarly to Hampshire, looked in little trouble and progressed at or ahead of the DLS rate displayed on the scoreboard. Kuhn having cruised to 30 then ran himself out and in my view that was the end of Kent's chances. We all said it at the time and in retrospect that was 'the moment' the game slipped away. D B-D assumed the sheet anchor role and the others played around him. Joe Denly played a poor shot to get himself out but his 4-58 brought us back into some sort of contention so I cannot be too harsh. Dickson came in and battled away for 30 odd without ever quite looking really established. Billings came in and it still looked 'possible,' even if unlikely, knowing that Blake and Stevens were still to come. D B_D eventually perished for a valuable 86 and we all shifted to the edge of our seats to greet the advent of Blake. He took a look for a few balls and then planted a trademark six in amongst the Hampshire fans and we looked forward to an acceleration. Two or three balls later he came back for a needless second and was run out by an admittedly high class direct hit by Mason Crane. Another body blow. Stevo came in to a decent reception from the more knowledgeable of the Kent fans but he too perished after not getting hold of a shot properly.
Thereafter Billings farmed the strike to the best of his ability but we were inexorably slipping behind the required rate and the other two run outs can be attributed to that. However it has to be said that Podmore makes Grant Basey look like Usain Bolt the way he ran that second run! The inevitable end came with a couple of overs left when Bilbo cocked up some sort of improvised reverse sweep and got caught.
Disappointing to lose obviously but we would all have taken a Lords Final at the start of the season and it was a privilege to be there watching it live even if a little hot!
Watched most of it inbetween the Argy - Franco match & the golf.....
As posted earlier Kent never got going and even with a slight sniff at the end Billings cocked it up & farmed the strike to no 11....twice running a single on the 1st or 2nd ball leaving the tail ender with virtually the whole over. numpty.
Billings cocked it up & farmed the strike to no 11....twice running a single on the 1st or 2nd ball leaving the tail ender with virtually the whole over. numpty.
That was ridiculously stupid , think it was last ball of 45th or 46th over when they ran a single leaving no.11 to face Steyn dot dot dot single followed .
Followed their innings until weariness drove me to bed (I'm down under this week). I was terrified thet were going to build an unassailable total, but we pegged them back at the last, and I hit the sack thinking we could do this, but sadly our record at Lords took another hit, and we lost again. Waking up to that was a real punch in the gut. Ah well, we can still dream of promotion.
Followed their innings until weariness drove me to bed (I'm down under this week). I was terrified thet were going to build an unassailable total, but we pegged them back at the last, and I hit the sack thinking we could do this, but sadly our record at Lords took another hit, and we lost again. Waking up to that was a real punch in the gut. Ah well, we can still dream of promotion.
And the T20 - Grant Stewart in for Haggett and with Milne/Stoinis/Braithwaite joining too we must have some sort of chance.
Just home, literally browned off after an afternoon in the sun.
We were in the Mound lower and there was indeed a few Kent idiots nearby but overall thought our support was loud & proud.
Pretty disappointed with our batting and especially with the kamikaze manner in which we lost 4 wickets to run outs.
I honestly thought that Stewart might get a shout today as the man in form but what do I know.....
Once Kuhn & Denly had departed I honestly couldn't see anyone getting a big enough score to see us over the line & although Bilbo's innings was a pleasant surprise, we lacked a big hitter to knock off the runs required.
Oh well, a good enough day with great company but a disappointment none the less.
Kuhn run out suicide
Blake run out - brilliant arm, could have done that another 200 times and not hit the wicket.
Those 2 dismissals were the game changers for me.
Yes exactly how I saw and would have been a different game without Kuhn's run out. We were going pretty well at that stage.
Booing Northeast is a bit harsh. Quality for Kent.
To be fair this was only from a minority of fans. It's just booing always is louder than clapping and certainly louder than those who gave no audible reaction.
I was there - great day - lots of Kent fans - sadly we fell at last hurdle - strange decision not to bat having won toss - it was a batting wicket - having to field first in the conditions must have been knackering - if we could have kept them to 300 I would have been confident - however the total they set was always going to be challenging - focus on promotion now
I'm a Hampshire fan and went yesterday. The booing of Northeast was a disgrace, as was Billings constant changing of the field when the batsmen were ready to face. However, the weirdest thing about yesterday was how on earth anyone could win the toss and choose to bowl.
I'm a Hampshire fan and went yesterday. The booing of Northeast was a disgrace, as was Billings constant changing of the field when the batsmen were ready to face. However, the weirdest thing about yesterday was how on earth anyone could win the toss and choose to bowl.
You won - record score at Lords - your field placings were much better than Kent's - your bowlers were better than Kent in keeping the score down - what's to complain about !!!
The booing of Northeast was halfhearted and predictable due to the amount of seriously pissed up Kent fans - didn't affect him though !!
The booing of SNE is interesting if only for the fact that I doubt Coles, for example, would have received the same sort of reception - perhaps because the former did perform to the best of his ability and is a class player and the latter didn't and isn't.
It's a bit like Scott Parker vs John Robinson - one left us when we were riding on a high and on the up as a player for big money too whereas the other went as a 32 year old on a free. The former is called Judas and the latter is still a hero.
The booing of SNE is interesting if only for the fact that I doubt Coles, for example, would have received the same sort of reception - perhaps because the former did perform to the best of his ability and is a class player and the latter didn't and isn't.
It's a bit like Scott Parker vs John Robinson - one left us when we were riding on a high and on the up as a player for big money too whereas the other went as a 32 year old on a free. The former is called Judas and the latter is still a hero.
SNE left us at his peak (with a year left on his contract), because he thought he could be more personally be more successful, the booing was perhaps a bit unusual at cricket, but not something that bothered me.
It's completely different to a John Robinson type who after many years of service was struggling to get into the team, and moved on to keep playing. If Tredders say had left after last season due to not being a regular in the first team, he would have got a good reception yesterday.
I was side on for the Kuhn and Blake run outs and you did not need the review to see they were out. Don’t think I will ever see a better throw down of the stumps than the one that got Blake out. There was no need for Kuhn to take the risky extra run and that was our downfall. Hopefully Kuhn can take us to a T20 final with some of his brutal hitting. The only thing that took the shine off the day were the pissed up idiots whose bravery got bigger once they had downed a fair amount of booze under a whithering sun. I don’t mind the mix of fans and usually it all goes off without any hassle but yesterday there were some pockets of stupidity that I have not seen before. And this was mostly Kent fans against Kent fans.
They got to the final, it is not the winning it is the taking part. Does anyone actually believe that bullshit?
I'd rather win than lose but 'taking part' in a showpiece final is a welcome moment of joy when you consider how poor Kent (rather like Charlton other than the Chris Powell era) have been for the past 10 years or more.
Teams that reach lots of finals can turn their noses up and say it's about the winning and just getting there isn't good enough. Hampshire play in division 1 whereas Kent have spent nearly 10 years now in division 2. Northeast and Coles (the first time) left Kent to join the 'bigger,' better division 1 club.
Kent fell short but put up a decent show and at this moment in time that will do. If we reach more finals then maybe I will start to expect more but I don't take finals for granted as a Kent fan!
They got to the final, it is not the winning it is the taking part. Does anyone actually believe that bullshit?
I'd rather win than lose but 'taking part' in a showpiece final is a welcome moment of joy when you consider how poor Kent (rather like Charlton other than the Chris Powell era) have been for the past 10 years or more.
Teams that reach lots of finals can turn their noses up and say it's about the winning and just getting there isn't good enough. Hampshire play in division 1 whereas Kent have spent nearly 10 years now in division 2. Northeast and Coles (the first time) left Kent to join the 'bigger,' better division 1 club.
Kent fell short but put up a decent show and at this moment in time that will do. If we reach more finals then maybe I will start to expect more but I don't take finals for granted as a Kent fan!
The Div 1 Div 2 split though does only apply to the county championship. Some counties aren't bother about being in Div 2, as they concentrate on white ball cricket where the money is made. Northants for example have won the T20 twice in the last 5 years
SNE has England Test aspirations, for him Div 1 cricket was important. For someone like Billings, white ball success would matter more
They got to the final, it is not the winning it is the taking part. Does anyone actually believe that bullshit?
I'd rather win than lose but 'taking part' in a showpiece final is a welcome moment of joy when you consider how poor Kent (rather like Charlton other than the Chris Powell era) have been for the past 10 years or more.
Teams that reach lots of finals can turn their noses up and say it's about the winning and just getting there isn't good enough. Hampshire play in division 1 whereas Kent have spent nearly 10 years now in division 2. Northeast and Coles (the first time) left Kent to join the 'bigger,' better division 1 club.
Kent fell short but put up a decent show and at this moment in time that will do. If we reach more finals then maybe I will start to expect more but I don't take finals for granted as a Kent fan!
The Div 1 Div 2 split though does only apply to the county championship. Some counties aren't bother about being in Div 2, as they concentrate on white ball cricket where the money is made. Northants for example have won the T20 twice in the last 5 years
SNE has England Test aspirations, for him Div 1 cricket was important. For someone like Billings, white ball success would matter more
That is true now but has not always been the case for the 40/50 over one day game.
One particular Kent fan behind us was an absolute arsehole. After the game he was shaking Hants fan hand and then said “now F Off” as he walked away. The Hants fan heard it and came back to sort him out fortunately the Kent fan had a couple of mates to hold him back from getting a pasting.
I could have done without some of the more abusive chanting from a certain Kent fan in the Mound Stand...
Where you near the front of the Mound stand and the entrance to staircase R?
Yes I think, the fan who annoyed me was the one who had a real go at Mason Crane
Of course you do have to ask the question why there were so many Hants fans in the Kent areas when there were so many empty seats in the areas allocated to them.if they want to sit in the Kent area and start singing "Hampshire" loudly they must realise there is a risk it will attract a degree of resentment.
Kent weren't allocated the whole of the Mound Stand anyway, and surely cricket doesn't need to be completely segregated?
I followed the links and advice on the Kent website that told me the part of the Mound I was sitting in was for Kent fans - 90% of those around me were Kent fans, and so must have used their one collective brain cell to use that advice correctly, whereas the Hampshire fans sitting in with us can't have had any brain cells. Cricket doesn't have to be segregated, but it is wise when Hamsphire fans sit in with Kent fans and stand up and goad at every boundary or wicket. With segregation we would have eliminated half the unnecessary comments above. As to the far more important matter of the cricket, I think we lost it when bowling. The Hants batsmen seemed to try and hit every ball we bowled, whereas we batted so defensively. Henry and Podmore just couldn't pressure the Hants batting order. Joe and Qayuum gave us a small chance but the Kuhn run out was the final nail. I was very gutted yesterday - as a Charlton fan I don't expect to get to finals very often and thought this was our only chance for silverware for a very long time. But having slept on it, a final appearance and a great start to the County Championship are far, far more than I could have wished for. May be the sign of better things to come.
I see that there is only going to be one more final of this competition at Lords. It will then be moved to Trent Bridge. Personally I think this is a disgrace, a continual downgrading of this form of cricket and the authorities obsession with the shorter forms of the game.
I like Trent Bridge, but it's hardly the most accessible ground for a national final - the great thing about London is that a large number of people can get there with one train only, especially Lord's which is a short distance from main North of London termini - and Nottingham has a far worse train service than Birmingham
Reaching Lord's is symbolic too, especially as the final on Saturday was played in summer, not September...
I see that there is only going to be one more final of this competition at Lords. It will then be moved to Trent Bridge. Personally I think this is a disgrace, a continual downgrading of this form of cricket and the authorities obsession with the shorter forms of the game.
I suppose this is what you get when the ECB encourage counties to upgrade their grounds to test standard and then don't have enough test matches to keep them all happy. Trent Bridge won't be getting an Ashes test for a good few years but they get chucked a bone with the one day final one instead. I went to Lord's at the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it (even though Kent were a bit pants), I would have stayed home and watched it on TV if it was in Nottingham.
The fact that (Haggett's dismal 2 over buffet aside) Hants had very few really big scoring overs, suggests to me that the pitch maybe wasn't quite the road all were expecting. 340 was ten or twenty too many for comfort. Kent's fielding was good but Hants's was exceptional, two of the runouts were superb. All Hants bowlers exercised a measure of control, besides Crane who then redeemed it all with that throw. After DBD idiotically ran out Kuhn, he should have taken on the leading role, instead he batted like he was set on a red-inker. By the time he deigned to press the accelerator it was too little too late and he fluffed his lines anyway. Billings's craving for the spotlight was all too evident - which makes his delayed entry at no.5 even more mystifying, he misread the pitch and should have shouldered the responsibility earlier. He left it far too late to try to break the shackles. Kent's 2 most senior batters failed to deliver and not through exceptional bowling or bad luck. It was effing hot sat in the sun all day and doubly disappointing that it ended up so one-sided. I could have done without Chris Wood celebrating the win with 15 overs to go as well.
Just been chatting to Darren Stevens at The London Club about the final - seemed pretty gutted. Didn't realise it was the third final that he had lost.
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Maybe the order should have been tweaked to bring in a striker like Billings or Blake when Denly was out?
Wasn't to be so maybe they should have brought a striker in - I thought the same at the time as it was so stale overs 10 - 25. Couldn't believe that DBD was going at a run a ball really. Denley scratched around and just got frustrated with that shot.
Fine margins... Bet Kent wished they had done something different in hindsight. Bet Blake was absolutely gutted getting out, looked 2 runs at the time, still think it was now - some arm - didn't go over shoulder height all the way to the wicket.
Summary: 4 run outs in an innings = 4 self inflicted wounds and you don't win if you do that to yourself!
Brief Report: An enjoyable day of 50 over cricket even though the result was wrong from the perspective of Kent fans. At one point when Hampshire batted the pitch looked so innocuous and the Hampshire batsmen so dominant that 400 plus looked a real possibility. A combination of Stevo. Qayyum and most of all part time bowler Joe Denly combined to peg Hampshire back and in the circumstances containing Hampshire to 330 looked to be a decent achievement.
Kent batted and, similarly to Hampshire, looked in little trouble and progressed at or ahead of the DLS rate displayed on the scoreboard. Kuhn having cruised to 30 then ran himself out and in my view that was the end of Kent's chances. We all said it at the time and in retrospect that was 'the moment' the game slipped away. D B-D assumed the sheet anchor role and the others played around him. Joe Denly played a poor shot to get himself out but his 4-58 brought us back into some sort of contention so I cannot be too harsh. Dickson came in and battled away for 30 odd without ever quite looking really established. Billings came in and it still looked 'possible,' even if unlikely, knowing that Blake and Stevens were still to come. D B_D eventually perished for a valuable 86 and we all shifted to the edge of our seats to greet the advent of Blake. He took a look for a few balls and then planted a trademark six in amongst the Hampshire fans and we looked forward to an acceleration. Two or three balls later he came back for a needless second and was run out by an admittedly high class direct hit by Mason Crane. Another body blow. Stevo came in to a decent reception from the more knowledgeable of the Kent fans but he too perished after not getting hold of a shot properly.
Thereafter Billings farmed the strike to the best of his ability but we were inexorably slipping behind the required rate and the other two run outs can be attributed to that. However it has to be said that Podmore makes Grant Basey look like Usain Bolt the way he ran that second run! The inevitable end came with a couple of overs left when Bilbo cocked up some sort of improvised reverse sweep and got caught.
Disappointing to lose obviously but we would all have taken a Lords Final at the start of the season and it was a privilege to be there watching it live even if a little hot!
As posted earlier Kent never got going and even with a slight sniff at the end Billings cocked it up & farmed the strike to no 11....twice running a single on the 1st or 2nd ball leaving the tail ender with virtually the whole over. numpty.
The booing of Northeast was halfhearted and predictable due to the amount of seriously pissed up Kent fans - didn't affect him though !!
Just enjoy the moment
It's a bit like Scott Parker vs John Robinson - one left us when we were riding on a high and on the up as a player for big money too whereas the other went as a 32 year old on a free. The former is called Judas and the latter is still a hero.
It's completely different to a John Robinson type who after many years of service was struggling to get into the team, and moved on to keep playing. If Tredders say had left after last season due to not being a regular in the first team, he would have got a good reception yesterday.
Teams that reach lots of finals can turn their noses up and say it's about the winning and just getting there isn't good enough. Hampshire play in division 1 whereas Kent have spent nearly 10 years now in division 2. Northeast and Coles (the first time) left Kent to join the 'bigger,' better division 1 club.
Kent fell short but put up a decent show and at this moment in time that will do. If we reach more finals then maybe I will start to expect more but I don't take finals for granted as a Kent fan!
SNE has England Test aspirations, for him Div 1 cricket was important. For someone like Billings, white ball success would matter more
Reaching Lord's is symbolic too, especially as the final on Saturday was played in summer, not September...
Kent's fielding was good but Hants's was exceptional, two of the runouts were superb. All Hants bowlers exercised a measure of control, besides Crane who then redeemed it all with that throw.
After DBD idiotically ran out Kuhn, he should have taken on the leading role, instead he batted like he was set on a red-inker. By the time he deigned to press the accelerator it was too little too late and he fluffed his lines anyway. Billings's craving for the spotlight was all too evident - which makes his delayed entry at no.5 even more mystifying, he misread the pitch and should have shouldered the responsibility earlier. He left it far too late to try to break the shackles. Kent's 2 most senior batters failed to deliver and not through exceptional bowling or bad luck.
It was effing hot sat in the sun all day and doubly disappointing that it ended up so one-sided.
I could have done without Chris Wood celebrating the win with 15 overs to go as well.