To deal with the false “spiteful individuals” narrative, 13 people representing the various elements of the coalition met last night for two hours to consider what action to take. This was a plan worked up collectively at the meeting. There was no dissent in the room.
The CARD statement was shared and agreed this morning by a wider group including about half a dozen people who couldn’t be there last night.
Murray would of been on the ropes when CARD made this announcement but i think he has had a big let off with the split support on here,if supporters had stuck together he would of had to respond before Saturday and come out with something,i think that was the aim.Doing something is surely better than doing nothing.
Roland is doing, exactly, what it was obvious he would do. The fans turned on him and set out to force him to sell the club, and force his CEO to leave and it's unrealistic that he would have done anything other than sell every thing he can before he goes. The fans have got what they want, did any of us, really, believe that he was going to leave a pile of cash in the safe for the new owners while he wiped of millions and millions and millions of pounds of debt?
Murray will have no say in, and probably no idea about, what will happen from here on in. I think the only thing that he could be sure about is that none of the money from the sale of players will be reinvested in the squad, which is, exactly, what he has, already, said this week.
I doubt that Murray will address the fans, I also doubt that anything he said, if he did, would be heard above the verbal abuse he would be subjected to from the second he appears to the second he leaves.
On the basis that we were promised an imminent take over last October, that didn't happen, followed by dozen's of posts on here justifying how such a statement like that can be made, turn out to be wrong and still be acceptable, I don't see how Roland can make any assurances about which of the four, potential, buyers will be in a position to complete first, never mind when that would be. The chances of Murray, who probably has about as much involvement in the sale process as Bruce Forsyth, being able to make any credible predictions is just laughable.
I admire CARD and it's members for their enthusiasm and dedication but the list of demands made of Richard Murray, on this occasion, look a thinly veiled attack on his reputation. I'm not sure that was necessary or helpful and gives the impression that there are members of CARD that are spiteful and vindictive.
Just my view, of course, and I am more than happy to be proved wrong.
If Murray has got any sense then he would at least do what some others have suggested, namely appear at KR's regular press conference on Thursday and respond as best he can there. That at least allows him to give the appearance of responding to a call for communicating whilst at the same time no doubt trotting out the usual platitudes. That of course won't satisfy anyone and likely still result in fans congregating outside the West stand on Saturday, but I think it's the very minimum he needs to do given his previously stated objective of communicating with fans.
"What can you tell us about the takeover?" "Negotiations are currently taking place. These are confidential, so I'm not at liberty to reveal who the parties are, how much money has been offered or when they are likely to be concluded. I'm not party to the talks anyway" "And what can you tell us about the possibility of future player sales" "Our transfer dealings will always remain confidential" "Is Konsa leaving?" "At the moment he is still a Charlton player" "Would any transfer fee be reinvested in the club?" "That would be up to the owner"
Roland is doing, exactly, what it was obvious he would do. The fans turned on him and set out to force him to sell the club, and force his CEO to leave and it's unrealistic that he would have done anything other than sell every thing he can before he goes. The fans have got what they want, did any of us, really, believe that he was going to leave a pile of cash in the safe for the new owners while he wiped of millions and millions and millions of pounds of debt?
Murray will have no say in, and probably no idea about, what will happen from here on in. I think the only thing that he could be sure about is that none of the money from the sale of players will be reinvested in the squad, which is, exactly, what he has, already, said this week.
I doubt that Murray will address the fans, I also doubt that anything he said, if he did, would be heard above the verbal abuse he would be subjected to from the second he appears to the second he leaves.
On the basis that we were promised an imminent take over last October, that didn't happen, followed by dozen's of posts on here justifying how such a statement like that can be made, turn out to be wrong and still be acceptable, I don't see how Roland can make any assurances about which of the four, potential, buyers will be in a position to complete first, never mind when that would be. The chances of Murray, who probably has about as much involvement in the sale process as Bruce Forsyth, being able to make any credible predictions is just laughable.
I admire CARD and it's members for their enthusiasm and dedication but the list of demands made of Richard Murray, on this occasion, look a thinly veiled attack on his reputation. I'm not sure that was necessary or helpful and gives the impression that there are members of CARD that are spiteful and vindictive.
Just my view, of course, and I am more than happy to be proved wrong.
If Murray has got any sense then he would at least do what some others have suggested, namely appear at KR's regular press conference on Thursday and respond as best he can there. That at least allows him to give the appearance of responding to a call for communicating whilst at the same time no doubt trotting out the usual platitudes. That of course won't satisfy anyone and likely still result in fans congregating outside the West stand on Saturday, but I think it's the very minimum he needs to do given his previously stated objective of communicating with fans.
"What can you tell us about the takeover?" "Negotiations are currently taking place. These are confidential, so I'm not at liberty to reveal who the parties are, how much money has been offered or when they are likely to be concluded. I'm not party to the talks anyway" "And what can you tell us about the possibility of future player sales" "Our transfer dealings will always remain confidential" "Is Konsa leaving?" "At the moment he is still a Charlton player" "Would any transfer fee be reinvested in the club?" "That would be up to the owner"
A hell of a lot of negativity towards this action. CARD need to rethink this!! In whose name are they acting? A minority not the majority. We don't know the sensitivity of the potential buyers so why take the risk of upsetting the Apple cart? CARD have done sterling work and been praised for it. Nows the time to be patient. Transfer window is a no go, we all know that but it's a price we're happy to pay to be rid of RD.
There's not a hell of a lot of negativity. There's the pair of usual vinegar pissers who have always hated the protests, but are now apparently being 'objective' and a handful of others who don't see the point. I'm not sure where you got your 'minority/majority' idea from, since none of us has ever known that.
We will never all agree, I completely accept that but my calculations make it over 100 likes to the original post whilst there are 3 fiercely opposed posters (often offering multiple posts) and around 5/6 who dont get the point.
In addition its being covered by Sky Sports News which in turn will lead to further media coverage that the current situation just is not acceptable.
We will never all agree, I completely accept that but my calculations make it over 100 likes to the oroginal post whilst there are 3 fiercely opposed posters (often offering multiple posts) and around 5/6 who dont get the point.
We will never all agree, I completely accept that but my calculations make it over 100 likes to the original post whilst there are 3 fiercely opposed posters (often offering multiple posts) and around 5/6 who dont get the point.
In addition its being covered by Sky Sports News which in turn will lead to further media coverage that the current situation just is not acceptable.
I'm not loling or flagging the original post because I don't aggre with it
We should just accept our lot , we are the plebby customers and the great high and mighty can piss about selling our players as and when they want cos they have a few quid so we must be deferential to them and bow to their superior knowledge and wealth and not put their noses out of joint and let's not put off the potential buyers who may not have noticed our crowds have fallen 30-50% since Charlton were last in the third tier , just as they were about to pay Rolands over inflated asking price , the 200 fans outside the West Stand will scupper the deal and just as the same protesters forced Roland to sell Kermorgant , Stephens and co they are the ones responsible for Holmes leaving not the twunt of an owner who we must always be so grateful for
We will never all agree, I completely accept that but my calculations make it over 100 likes to the oroginal post whilst there are 3 fiercely opposed posters (often offering multiple posts) and around 5/6 who dont get the point.
TBH the club is for sale. There are interested parties looking to purchase the club. Any decision about transfer policy is for the current owner to make and how this might impact on the current squad of manager/coaches/players/back room staff and their own ambitions. It will also impact on those looking to buy the club and the price they are willing to pay. That's a decision for the current owner to make. Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family.
Watched Darkest Hour this afternoon, and couldn't help making a connection between Chamberlain and Halifax, the appeasers, and the anti-protest brigade.
Smokin Ice 8:46PM TBH the club is for sale. There are interested parties looking to purchase the club. Any decision about transfer policy is for the current owner to make and how this might impact on the current squad of manager/coaches/players/back room staff and their own ambitions. It will also impact on those looking to buy the club and the price they are willing to pay. That's a decision for the current owner to make. Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family.
It might be useful to know exactly where Murray stands on these ownership and transfer issues. He would surely seek to be part of the management team set up by future owners, as they may see him as a conduit to the fans.
TBH the club is for sale. There are interested parties looking to purchase the club. Any decision about transfer policy is for the current owner to make and how this might impact on the current squad of manager/coaches/players/back room staff and their own ambitions. It will also impact on those looking to buy the club and the price they are willing to pay. That's a decision for the current owner to make. Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family.
Sorry, but please help me understand why you believe "Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family".
1. In terms of a protest being counter productive - Isn't it a case that RD's strategy for the club has clearly failed? Yes, the fans have protested against it but don't you think that any prospective buyer is already fully aware of both facts? The request for further communication from RM is not a protest against a takeover, more a case they are concerned that during this period of discussion with potential buyers, RD appears to be looking to strip value out of the club in terms of good players with no replacements, with the result it may not be able to get out of league 1 when in a reasonable position to do so.
2. "Showing the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family" - I honestly don't know what you mean.
TBH the club is for sale. There are interested parties looking to purchase the club. Any decision about transfer policy is for the current owner to make and how this might impact on the current squad of manager/coaches/players/back room staff and their own ambitions. It will also impact on those looking to buy the club and the price they are willing to pay. That's a decision for the current owner to make. Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family.
I'm sorry for first agreeing with CARD & wanting to find out what the hell is going on, but having read your comment I'm happy for RD to sell the entire first team squad this week, pocket all the transfer fees & for KR to put out a team of U23's & U18's. I mean, its the owners right to do that isn't it & us, the customer, will just have to put up with it or shop elsewhere.
To deal with the false “spiteful individuals” narrative, 13 people representing the various elements of the coalition met last night for two hours to consider what action to take. This was a plan worked up collectively at the meeting. There was no dissent in the room.
The CARD statement was shared and agreed this morning by a wider group including about half a dozen people who couldn’t be there last night.
This is how CARD works, and has always worked.
So there would be absolutely no chance of a couple of individuals planting a seed, making suggestions and the others running with it?
To deal with the false “spiteful individuals” narrative, 13 people representing the various elements of the coalition met last night for two hours to consider what action to take. This was a plan worked up collectively at the meeting. There was no dissent in the room.
The CARD statement was shared and agreed this morning by a wider group including about half a dozen people who couldn’t be there last night.
This is how CARD works, and has always worked.
So there would be absolutely no chance of a couple of individuals planting a seed, making suggestions and the others running with it?
In my experience, people who are motivated to put in the hard work necessary to organise things, as opposed to sitting round moaning that nothing is being done, are usually strong minded people & not easily led sheep. The phrase "trying to herd cats" comes to mind. So to have achieved unity in this matter seems to me a tribute to a lot of careful and well reasoned discussion.
People yelling “We want out Charlton back?” are going to put shivers of horror up the spines of all these competing purchasers.
May be -but at least they will know what to expect if they ignore us. Let's be fair, any prospective buyers (unless they have been on a four-year round the world trip with no access to the news) will be perfectly aware of what's been going on at Charlton and just what the club's supporters are capable of.
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The CARD statement was shared and agreed this morning by a wider group including about half a dozen people who couldn’t be there last night.
This is how CARD works, and has always worked.
"Negotiations are currently taking place. These are confidential, so I'm not at liberty to reveal who the parties are, how much money has been offered or when they are likely to be concluded. I'm not party to the talks anyway"
"And what can you tell us about the possibility of future player sales"
"Our transfer dealings will always remain confidential"
"Is Konsa leaving?"
"At the moment he is still a Charlton player"
"Would any transfer fee be reinvested in the club?"
"That would be up to the owner"
A section of Charlton fans
I'm not sure where you got your 'minority/majority' idea from, since none of us has ever known that.
In addition its being covered by Sky Sports News which in turn will lead to further media coverage that the current situation just is not acceptable.
and let's not put off the potential buyers who may not have noticed our crowds have fallen 30-50% since Charlton were last in the third tier , just as they were about to pay Rolands over inflated asking price , the 200 fans outside the West Stand will scupper the deal and just as the same protesters forced Roland to sell Kermorgant , Stephens and co they are the ones responsible for Holmes leaving not the twunt of an owner who we must always be so grateful for
8:46PM
TBH the club is for sale. There are interested parties looking to purchase the club. Any decision about transfer policy is for the current owner to make and how this might impact on the current squad of manager/coaches/players/back room staff and their own ambitions. It will also impact on those looking to buy the club and the price they are willing to pay. That's a decision for the current owner to make. Any protest/s now will be counterproductive and show the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family.
what football family do you refer to here?
1. In terms of a protest being counter productive - Isn't it a case that RD's strategy for the club has clearly failed? Yes, the fans have protested against it but don't you think that any prospective buyer is already fully aware of both facts? The request for further communication from RM is not a protest against a takeover, more a case they are concerned that during this period of discussion with potential buyers, RD appears to be looking to strip value out of the club in terms of good players with no replacements, with the result it may not be able to get out of league 1 when in a reasonable position to do so.
2. "Showing the fan base in a different light to the rest of the football family" - I honestly don't know what you mean.
Where do we find these planks.
Baaaaaa...
Humbug!
So to have achieved unity in this matter seems to me a tribute to a lot of careful and well reasoned discussion.
There is a process going on. Any protest now is negative and counterproductive to the main aim to unite the club.