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The influence of the EU on Britain.

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  • Truly disturbing to think how much papers like the Mail and the Sun influenced the referendum result.
  • Howells said:

    Chizz said:

    If only you did rest it rather than sending me the abusive PM...

    Not just me then @Algarveaddick ?
    Pah. I got the first one :-)

    Out of the three, you deserved it most, Rich :smile:
    Well, I say three, @chizz if you consider that 'abuse' then you must be very thin skinned indeed.
    How unlike you to take something entirely out of context!

    Anyway gents, let's get back to the matter at hand, derailing brexit via a league one football club forum...

    Fake chumminess now. As Chizz said, weird and attention seeking. If you have any disagreements with what people write on here, just write it here in plain sight.
  • This Bloomberg article will be well worth a read, but seeing as I am on holiday I'll save it for later. It's already "fury inducing" being in Germany when the jammy feckers get up to their World Cup tricks again

  • British Gas can stick it.
    About 7 years ago a salesperson came round and offered a 'best price' for British Gas to install a Valliant boiler for £3,400!
    When I pointed out the boiler was £899 retail and it would take two blokes a maximum of one day to remove the old boiler and install the new one and estimated a generous rate of £500 for that and I added on a (very very generous) £500 profit for British Gas, I asked what the extra £1500 would be for.
    I was told it was for the control panel. Fuck the fuckitty fuck OFF!
    I told them to stick it and got a Worcester Bosh fully installed with the old boiler away, and a control panel too for £1,600.
    I also have a (cliche alert) a brilliant Polish plumber, after years of getting ripped off by British plumbers who did shoddy work.
  • Glad you want to see our wonderful country reduced to the standard of Turkey, Albania or Greece...

    Leave Turkey out of this!
    They have taken in millions of unfortunate migrants.
    Always seems a nice friendly place when I go there!
    Compares well with our "wonderful" country so far as I'm concerned.
  • edited June 2018
    Another day, another damaging blow to those who think that Brexit might not be a complete disaster.

  • seth plum said:

    British Gas can stick it.
    About 7 years ago a salesperson came round and offered a 'best price' for British Gas to install a Valliant boiler for £3,400!
    When I pointed out the boiler was £899 retail and it would take two blokes a maximum of one day to remove the old boiler and install the new one and estimated a generous rate of £500 for that and I added on a (very very generous) £500 profit for British Gas, I asked what the extra £1500 would be for.
    I was told it was for the control panel. Fuck the fuckitty fuck OFF!
    I told them to stick it and got a Worcester Bosh fully installed with the old boiler away, and a control panel too for £1,600.
    I also have a (cliche alert) a brilliant Polish plumber, after years of getting ripped off by British plumbers who did shoddy work.

    British Gas need to move with the times. They are 'Addicks Boilers' now and have been since the '80s. What a pity the club hasn't got one for the undersoil heating.
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  • Chizz said:

    Another day, another damaging blow to those who think that Brexit might not be a calamitous clusterfuck.

    Thought they had already gone...
  • Chizz said:

    Another day, another damaging blow to those who think that Brexit might not be a calamitous clusterfuck.

    Thought they had already gone...
    No Chippy, banks still exist.
  • Chizz said:

    Two years ago today, Nick Clegg published this piece in the Independent. It would be interesting to see which of these predictions Leavers still claim to be "project fear" and which have turned out to be astonishingly accurate prophecy.

    I really wish these predictions hadn't turned out to be so accurate.

    https://inews.co.uk/?p=11756

    sorry, but couldn't get past "unemployment rising, sterling tanking, prices rising in the shops..."

    unemployment is currently at record lows and inflation(rpi or cpi) is around 2.5% and falling.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/true-cost-of-brexit-vote-is-440m-every-week-wd5nnsn6z?shareToken=d577e0e14ca1ca105cd23cbf817a8a02

    All of the Project Fear projections, like all academic research predicting the outcome of an event which will be affected by a butterfly flapping its wings 5,000 miles away, is on the basis of "ceteris paribus" because they learnt the Latin phrase for all other things being equal. The worst case scenario of Project Fear is a 7% worsening in GDP over an indeterminate period, but further out than 15 years, so could be 1/2% a year for a number of years, and then the effect is assumed to be neutral.

    GDP today per head is much the same as in 2009. Had GDP grown in line with expectations of productivity growth, GDP would be 20% higher today. In fact productivity has flatlined in line with GDP growth. So using the same economists projections and calculations, the impact of what we have experienced since 2009 as a result of low productivity is seven times worse the the long term predicted impact of Brexit, and that's assuming nothing positive comes out of Brexit.

    Unlike Remainers paralysed by the fear of the unknown, I am not overly concerned at the inevitable disrupted trade arrangements in the short term because trade will find its own equilibrium, business adapts to a new landscapes all the time in order to survive.

    The Brexit "problem" pales into insignificance compared to the productivity problem, so why are people not marching against productivity failure?

    Those worrying about the impact of Brexit, believing the predictions of doom and economic collapse, don't realise they would be more effective marching against butterflies.
  • edited June 2018


    Bit further down the thread mentions Farage and Crispin Odey's role
  • Chizz said:
    There is an assemblage going on, we have feck Barnier, feck the Irish, feck the GFA, feck business, feck the House of Lords, feck the House of Commons, indeed feck every individual and institution that raises concerns.
    So much easier to say feck 'em all than to provide answers and solutions.
  • Chizz said:

    Two years ago today, Nick Clegg published this piece in the Independent. It would be interesting to see which of these predictions Leavers still claim to be "project fear" and which have turned out to be astonishingly accurate prophecy.

    I really wish these predictions hadn't turned out to be so accurate.

    https://inews.co.uk/?p=11756

    sorry, but couldn't get past "unemployment rising, sterling tanking, prices rising in the shops..."

    unemployment is currently at record lows and inflation(rpi or cpi) is around 2.5% and falling.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/true-cost-of-brexit-vote-is-440m-every-week-wd5nnsn6z?shareToken=d577e0e14ca1ca105cd23cbf817a8a02

    All of the Project Fear projections, like all academic research predicting the outcome of an event which will be affected by a butterfly flapping its wings 5,000 miles away, is on the basis of "ceteris paribus" because they learnt the Latin phrase for all other things being equal. The worst case scenario of Project Fear is a 7% worsening in GDP over an indeterminate period, but further out than 15 years, so could be 1/2% a year for a number of years, and then the effect is assumed to be neutral.

    GDP today per head is much the same as in 2009. Had GDP grown in line with expectations of productivity growth, GDP would be 20% higher today. In fact productivity has flatlined in line with GDP growth. So using the same economists projections and calculations, the impact of what we have experienced since 2009 as a result of low productivity is seven times worse the the long term predicted impact of Brexit, and that's assuming nothing positive comes out of Brexit.

    Unlike Remainers paralysed by the fear of the unknown, I am not overly concerned at the inevitable disrupted trade arrangements in the short term because trade will find its own equilibrium, business adapts to a new landscapes all the time in order to survive.

    The Brexit "problem" pales into insignificance compared to the productivity problem, so why are people not marching against productivity failure?

    Those worrying about the impact of Brexit, believing the predictions of doom and economic collapse, don't realise they would be more effective marching against butterflies.
    Moggy was on Nick Ferrari this morning fly swatted the usual fear babies and porky piers....
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
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  • Not irrelevant I'm afraid.
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
    I think Chippy is cracking folks… :lol:
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
    I think Chippy is cracking folks… :lol:
    Trust me he ain't.
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
    I think Chippy is cracking folks… :lol:
    Trust me he ain't.
    I agree, Chippy's job is to give out lol's when you're running low.
    He has been steadfast so far.
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
    I think Chippy is cracking folks… :lol:
    Trust me he ain't.
    Indeed mate..their in my pocket bring them out when i want to play with them.....
  • That Guardian is some newspaper....seems to get scoops you cant read anywhere else...
  • Great debate at the minute going on, on LBC re the EU's performance on immigrants and Italy...Couple of Italians ringing in discussing the problem.

    They should ask them about the Irish border, they would probably have more of an idea than you quitters on here, or your Brexit buddies in Westminster... :lol:
    Question is irrelevant even to the daftest of remainers. That's why they didn't ask it. Seth got his hand up your jack.
    I think Chippy is cracking folks… :lol:
    Trust me he ain't.
    oh well seams no-one wants to play..they will do after the guardian brexit correspondent (household name) bangs an outdated scoop tomorrow...Hopefully she will ring Nick Ferrari or Ian Dale with it, too.
  • BTW Shelagh the other outcast is on holiday
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