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Incredible talent or lying about his age?

Chris_from_Sidcup
Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
in Other Football and Sports
http://www.goal.com/en/news/meet-youssoufa-moukoko-the-12-year-old-wonderkid-taking-borussia-/1tqlyesv5b8cg19za1vx496emn

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The highly touted youngster is the top scorer at Under-17 level in Germany, despite playing against opponents three and four years older than him
Three games into the 2017-18 Junior Bundesliga West season, a Borussia Dortmund striker tops the goalscoring charts with eight goals to his name. Amazingly, the hot prospect is four years younger than most of the other players on the list, with 12-year-old Youssoufa Moukoko already being heralded as a future star for club and country.

The Cameroon-born youngster moved to Germany with his father Joseph in 2014, and immediately stood out for St Pauli's Under-15 side, scoring 21 goals in 12 games as an 11-year-old. A transfer to Dortmund followed, where he starred again at the same age level. With BVB's U-15 panel, Moukoko continued his incredible scoring ratio, netting 33 goals in 15 games.
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    always difficult to tell .. a team mate of my son's (many years ago) was 6' 2" when he was twelve, was built like Anthony Joshua's big brother and could do the 100 metres in about 11 seconds .. thing is, he was the same size ten years later, albeit a lot slower
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Well, we'll see how it turns out. But two words: Cherno Samba .
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Bet he couldn't score past our Nigerian 12 year old keeper.
  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    cafcfan said:

    Well, we'll see how it turns out. But two words: Cherno Samba .

    And Freddy Adu
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    bellz2002 said:

    cafcfan said:

    Well, we'll see how it turns out. But two words: Cherno Samba .

    And Freddy Adu
    And sonny pike
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    He doesn't look 12.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Guess you could say the same about Lukaku when he was playing kids football?

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    And Paul Bacon.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    Bedsaddick said:

    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever

    He looks older than me.
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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,476
    Bedsaddick said:

    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever

    I agree there has to be some doubt as to his age.......however to say there is no way he is 12 is stretching it a bit.
    I can remember some big lads my age when I was 12 and anomalies from equatorial Africa may well throw up quite a few examples of an even more extreme nature.
    I expect this will receive some further investigation.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    stackitsteve said:

    Joseph Minala was 17 when he broke into the Lazio team. Pictured here.

    image

    There is no way this guy is 17, he looks nearer to retirement!
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Paper rounds are tough in cameroon.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    12 my arse !
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    stackitsteve said:

    Joseph Minala was 17 when he broke into the Lazio team. Pictured here.

    image

    There were reports from Cameroon that he was actually 42 (which to be fair he does look)
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    I remember at the time the Italian fa got involved and confirmed he was 17. How they verified it I don't know
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    Bedsaddick said:

    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever

    He looks older than me.
    I think it's a fair bet to say he is taller than you....even when he is sitting down.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    stackitsteve said:

    I remember at the time the Italian fa got involved and confirmed he was 17. How they verified it I don't know

    They probably just looked somebody else's passport.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited August 2017
    SoundAsa£ said:

    Bedsaddick said:

    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever

    I can remember some big lads my age when I was 12

    Some 12 year olds are bigger than you now.

    And that's just the girls.

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    ricky_otto said:

    ElfsborgAddick said:

    Bedsaddick said:

    There is absolutely no way he is 12. None whatsoever

    He looks older than me.
    I think it's a fair bet to say he is taller than you....even when he is sitting down.
    Not heard that one before Dicky.

    Try another one mate.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,782
    stackitsteve said:

    I remember at the time the Italian fa got involved and confirmed he was 17. How they verified it I don't know

    Apparently, a trip to the dentist is a quick & easy way to determine someone's age............
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    stackitsteve said:

    Joseph Minala was 17 when he broke into the Lazio team. Pictured here.

    image

    There were reports from Cameroon that he was actually 42 (which to be fair he does look)
    I think a 42 year old breaking into the Lazio team would be a story in itself.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I played football with a black lad who, at 12, was like lightning. Amazing player. Small but nimble. Impossible to get the ball off him.

    By the time we were 15 we'd all got bigger and stronger and he was barely average.

    Another lad was 6'2" at 12. Absolutely plundered goals for fun. By 15 he was the same size but just the same as everyone else talent-wise.
    He freely admitted he didn't know his age as he'd arrived in the U.K. Without much documentation. That was pretty common 30 years ago I think. Age was based on mental capacity at the time.

    You'd think nowadays there's more science applied but this "problem" isn't new. Still fascinating when it comes up though.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    stackitsteve said:

    I remember at the time the Italian fa got involved and confirmed he was 17. How they verified it I don't know

    Cut him in half and counted the rings?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,845
    We had a Nigerian join us at primary school in Dartford and when we had cricket practice he broke a stump with one of his deliveries
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    bellz2002 said:

    cafcfan said:

    Well, we'll see how it turns out. But two words: Cherno Samba .

    And Freddy Adu
    And sonny pike
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    bellz2002 said:

    cafcfan said:

    Well, we'll see how it turns out. But two words: Cherno Samba .

    And Freddy Adu
    And sonny pike
    And Pu Edam
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    stackitsteve said:

    I remember at the time the Italian fa got involved and confirmed he was 17. How they verified it I don't know

    They sawed his leg off and counted the rings.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    This is ridiculous but some of these African lads can be absolutely massive for their age.

    There is a young Sudanese who plays against my son in Under-11s and he is virtually six feet tall - the rest of the players don't even reach his upper chest height wise.

    Not forgetting the young 'Rodzilla' - AKA Rod Blake - who played for the Wallabies in the front-row.

    At aged 15 young Rod was 6' 3" tall and weighed in at a modest 150Kgs, fuck knows where they bought his school uniforms.

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