Plymouth 2 Charlton 0 Post Match Thread
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Is Reeves injured already? Where was he today?....not even on the bench.0
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disappointing result considering we're in pissy league one
But we have the opportunity to mention how Sheffield Utd started shit last year
Seems like a lifetime ago when we were beating Ipswich 6-1 and tugging ourselves all round south London , I can see big Mick Nescafé(ing) us off now .
How much did we receive for Dale Stephens now playing against Man City , what twat on a computer in Rolys experiment let that happen .
3% Automatic promotion ........ 30% Play offs ........... 62% 7th-12th .........5% 13th-20th ...... 0% Relegation
100% Roland Out21 -
Agreed, we had nothing up top whatsoever.ShootersHillGuru said:On train. Pretty but too deep and lacking cutting edge. That's it really. Dominated possession but can't say we ever looked overly threatening. Not many teams will have more possession than us but we succumbed to obvious league one strengths. We're we unlucky ? No not really. We're Plymouth? A bit I think. Gutted but reality check big time. Fans fantastic as ever.
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Slight injuryOhEddieYouds said:Is Reeves injured already? Where was he today?....not even on the bench.
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Doubt he is up to speed fitness wise1
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I hate to correct you, but I think you mean Maxwell House.oohaahmortimer said:I can see big Mick Nescafé(ing) us off now .
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Were we gonna win the league after last week? No. Are we gonna get relegated off the back of this? No. What is a concern, though, is that Plymouth played how a lot of teams are gonna set up against us; they got eleven men behind the ball, they defended stoutly, they nicked a goal and then they defended some more. We played well in the first half, Magennis should of scored at least twice, but they seemed to figure us out and we looked pretty lost for ideas throughout the second period.
Reeves should improve the situation as he should be able to pick the pass that none of of the current '3' can. What's clear, though, is we need a plan B for when teams do this to us, which is likely to involve a new striker who can be relied on to consistently hit the net, because for all Big Mag's qualities I think today demonstrated he isn't a 20+ goal a season man.10 -
My memory's going but you got my drift !!!Uboat said:
I hate to correct you, but I think you mean Maxwell House.oohaahmortimer said:I can see big Mick Nescafé(ing) us off now .
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That is an effective way to play against one up front - easier to stifle.CroydonAddick1 said:Were we gonna win the league after last week? No. Are we gonna get relegated off the back of this? No. What is a concern, though, is that Plymouth played how a lot of teams are gonna set up against us; they got eleven men behind the ball, they defended stoutly, they nicked a goal and then they defended some more. We played well in the first half, Magennis should of scored at least twice, but they seemed to figure us out and we looked pretty lost for ideas throughout the second period. Reeves should improve the situation as he should be able to pick the pass that none of of the current '3' can. What's clear, though, is we need a plan B for when teams do this to us, which is likely to involve a new striker who can be relied on to consistently hit the net, because for all Big Mag's qualities I think today demonstrated he isn't a 20+ goal a season man.
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Where do we find strikers we can afford and can do the job for us?
Unlikely we're going to get any player in any clubs 1st team, unless we offer stupid money, can't see that happening.
Anyone else will be a lottery, Andy Jones springs to mind.0 - Sponsored links:
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I'd like to see us not having to play unfit players to maintain the system, but even with a fit forward, we have to have a plan B. When we are chasing a game - Seeing as we have two full backs who can get forwards, I'd bring the number 10 off, replace with Sarr, pushing the full backs up. Gives us a bit of extra height for set pieces too.4
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I keep saying this.... Magennis is only decent when he's fully fit, pumped up, and firing on all cylinders. He only reached full fitness and form for about three matches last season. That's not good enough if you want promotion.
We need a proper 20 goals a season man, a natural, versatile finisher; in other words, someone who can contribute even on an off day, or when the side isn't playing well. Ajose wasn't that man, so it's pointless mentioning him again.
The major problem is that players like that don't come cheap.
Over to you Roland....10 -
Edit : It was Nescafé I found a video but it was a bit rude so took it down
Rude words
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Talk of strikers is all very well but I get the impression that the defending is not too great either.2
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I am hoping that by the end of the transfer window that the seasons squad weakness is not a lack of fire power, cover or versatility in attack. Hopefully with confirmation of Watt's departure that there is budget space to resolve the current clear squad weakness.
I hope Robinson is supported by Duchatelet to get in decent striker cover that allows back up for Magennis (& for Magennis to be rested properly / not rushed back from injury as happened today & happened to Vetekele with Peeters). Also that a plan B is available when Plan A doesn't work.
Whether this happens or not will tell how successful Charlton's season will be.2 -
Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.2
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But we can afford it, we have the richest owner in our history and we are one of his children in need, he could pay silly money for a striker(s) to fire us out of this league.
I belive the team have enough quality that the addition of a goal scorer or two would get us up and he must know that as well, if he doesnt then KM certainly does and should tell him.4 -
Funny how Stephens and Kermogant weren't good enough for us, yet both have played in the Premier league more recently than we have!15
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I think that's more an organisational thing?Lazy_eye_metaphor said:Talk of strikers is all very well but I get the impression that the defending is not too great either.
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Just woke up from a nice afternoon kip, did I miss anything?0
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Magennis not 100% - but no other options, not deep into January - but the second game of the season FFS!cfgs said:Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.
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Feet should be firmly back on the floor now.
We were not suddenly real promotion favourites off the back of beating Bristol Rovers last week, and we are by no means going to struggle just because we were off key at Plymouth today.
Robinson has constructed a decent side and I think it is strong enough to have us at least challenging for top 6 - provided we strengthen our striking options. Whether or not Duchatelet makes the funds available and Meire can get the negotiations done are the big questions - and the answers will tell us everything we need to know about the seriousness of their promotion intentions.13 -
But the reason we are so pished off because we don't trust the idiots that run the club to allow KR the chance to improve the options. TBH who plays an unfit player upfront alone anyway?MuttleyCAFC said:
Magennis not 100% - but no other options, not deep into January - but the second game of the season FFS!cfgs said:Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.
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Watched the stream. Good first half but didn't take any of our chances. Poor second, Plymouth looked in control for most of it.
Obvious thing is to say we need a goalscorer but the whole team needs to do better. None of them took chances in the first half, as a team we didn't create enough in the second.
Even if a striker gets 20 goals you probably need at least 50 goals from elsewhere in the squad to be in the top 6.3 -
You're right but for me the fear is, as usual, we fail to address our weaknesses.MuttleyCAFC said:
Magennis not 100% - but no other options, not deep into January - but the second game of the season FFS!cfgs said:Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.
Of course that's not necessarily the managers fault but the owner.
Is he likely to heed the call and as I said where do we find a 20 goal a season striker, they're hardly in abundance?0 -
I was in the Grandstand with a PAFC. Friend
We looked strong for the first fifteen minutes and I was surprised we didn't score . There after we looked pretty but didn't ever really threaten
Greater double Save was the turning point2 -
Well I can't argue with that evidence.oohaahmortimer said:Edit : It was Nescafé I found a video but it was a bit rude so took it down
Rude words
Friendlier onehttps://youtu.be/2YCxZ2q7zdc
Have I gone mad, or was the 'shake' originally associated with Maxwell House or have I been caught up in my very own Fake Shake scandal?4 -
Just settled in here for an eveing in Plymouth, after a tough run on the M% and a tough game.
Thoughts?
We played good, composed football in the first half, and while even then I thought we lacked an edge we created a couple of good opportunities. The way the game went coud be judged by the noise levels as Plymouth were silent for the first twenty minutes, but they began to knock balls over the defence, and their overlap on the wings created some real problems. At half time I thought 0-0 looked fair but not likely to last, and my mate reckoned Plymouth would win 1 or 2 nil. The second half was different. Our neat passing game went nowhere, and when Plymouth went ahead, they shut up shop, and we really didn't look likely to equalise, bar a half chance for Mag, just before the second goal. The support trailed off, as the fans had nothing to get excited about, and some bellend lobbed a flare onto the pitch after the second goal, just to make us look like poor losers.
In the end, it's just a balance to last weeks heroics, but either the cteative side needs a boost, or e need a striker who can make space to recieve the ball. Mag received almost no service in the second half, but as he was coming bck from injury, he might also have not been at his best. No matter, plenty there for KR to worry about. And a definate nod to everyone who said the squad was too light.
Finally, the away kit today? FFS, red would have been a much better contrast to the Plymouth kit. The new blue kit is nice, but it blended in with the surroundings.6 -
I'm a bit concerned as well about Robinson's tactical abilities - just like last season, when for far too long he held to "the system", regardless of the ability of the squad to deliver winning results using it, I worry that today demonstrated a worrying continued inflexibility on his part.cfgs said:
But the reason we are so pished off because we don't trust the idiots that run the club to allow KR the chance to improve the options. TBH who plays an unfit player upfront alone anyway?MuttleyCAFC said:
Magennis not 100% - but no other options, not deep into January - but the second game of the season FFS!cfgs said:Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.
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A manager with no real choice?cfgs said:
But the reason we are so pished off because we don't trust the idiots that run the club to allow KR the chance to improve the options. TBH who plays an unfit player upfront alone anyway?MuttleyCAFC said:
Magennis not 100% - but no other options, not deep into January - but the second game of the season FFS!cfgs said:Early season. Team missing Marshall and Reeves, with Magennis not at 100%. So whilst we need another forward (preferably two) as we lack quality and goalscoring up top, the only reason for this angst is because we think here we go again. Hopefully we add to the squad and get back on it soon.
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