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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    Just received a load of letters through the post addressed to G Brady. Not sure whether to redirect or throw them in the bin!
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    hawksmoor said:

    Chaz Hill said:

    Ken Clarke on Twitter:

    “I’ve been sat up in bed for hours, whisky on the bedside table, soft jazz playing in the background, trying to think if I’ve worked with a more idiotic bunch of self centred bastards in my nearly 50 years as a MP.

    Nope, still can’t think of any. Time for another bottle.”

    Says it all really.

    It's a spoof account.

    Interesting! It was pretty much in line with what I saw him say on BBC2 and C4 yesterday.
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited November 2018
    Leuth said:

    Quote: The UK government has inflicted “great misery” on its people with “punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous” austerity policies driven by a political desire to undertake social re-engineering rather than economic necessity, the United Nations poverty envoy has found.

    Philip Alston, the UN’s rapporteur on extreme poverty and human rights, ended a two-week fact-finding mission to the UK with a stinging declaration that despite being the world’s fifth largest economy, levels of child poverty are “not just a disgrace, but a social calamity and an economic disaster”.


    And there's a lot more like that...

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/16/uk-austerity-has-inflicted-great-misery-on-citizens-un-says

    But what else do you expect from a party where "must be a sociopath" is part of the job description for MPs?

    They're simply driving the feckless to suicide, preferably in a ditch where hard-working proper folk can't see them. Waste disposal program par excellence! Bravo Tories
    Your name is Laura and you work for the BBC.

    Speaking of which august institution, the UN rapporteur report doesn't seem to have made it onto their News website yet. Funny, that. All eyes on the Tory wankfest.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    hawksmoor said:

    Chaz Hill said:

    Ken Clarke on Twitter:

    “I’ve been sat up in bed for hours, whisky on the bedside table, soft jazz playing in the background, trying to think if I’ve worked with a more idiotic bunch of self centred bastards in my nearly 50 years as a MP.

    Nope, still can’t think of any. Time for another bottle.”

    Says it all really.

    It's a spoof account.

    I still think he's just a dirty old man. I'm disgusted.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,598
    The whole political landscape is exploding, I think there’s about 6 MP’s I’d trust to run more than a bath. We’re all fecked. The Tories can do one, except only labour will replace them and they’ll be as bad so they can do one also.

    I live in hope that the sensible from across parties get together and form something new, but don’t see that happening anytime soon, so it’s all down to @bobmunro
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    Rob7Lee said:

    The whole political landscape is exploding, I think there’s about 6 MP’s I’d trust to run more than a bath. We’re all fecked. The Tories can do one, except only labour will replace them and they’ll be as bad so they can do one also.

    I live in hope that the sensible from across parties get together and form something new, but don’t see that happening anytime soon, so it’s all down to @bobmunro

    You're def Chancellor if he gets in mate

    I'm his PR guy until I get unceremoniously sacked after it comes to light I sent a series of emails to Katrien over her running of the club from Jan 2016 - June 2016, that the tabloid press brand the behaviour of a stalker. Bob can no longer have me as the face of his campaign and regrettably has to let me go. In a further twist he appoints ibborg at the same time as ibborg gets made mod. Down an out I apply to not 606 and see out my days bragging of my 13k lols to 5 other blokes on an internet forum
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,853
    Rob7Lee said:

    The whole political landscape is exploding, I think there’s about 6 MP’s I’d trust to run more than a bath. We’re all fecked. The Tories can do one, except only labour will replace them and they’ll be as bad so they can do one also.

    I live in hope that the sensible from across parties get together and form something new, but don’t see that happening anytime soon, so it’s all down to @bobmunro

    I'm biding my time.
  • It gets lost in all the Brexit chaos but...

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/23/revealed-companies-running-inadequate-uk-care-homes-make-113m-profit

    ...many other things are being fucked up. Clearly the money that could be used for recruiting more staff and having better standards in place is written down as profit.
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    edited November 2018
    Just in case anybody forgot that they are the party of economic competence.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/29/tory-run-northamptonshire-county-council-bailed-out-by-government

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  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    So who is going to replace May then?

    I noticed Johnson’s intervention yesterday in the Withdrawal debate didn’t go too well. Gove has been doing his best snake oil salesman impression and will have the Murdoch papers backing. Depends if they still want a Brexiteer.

    Hard to say really. They are all pretty sh**.
  • Chaz Hill said:

    So who is going to replace May then?

    I noticed Johnson’s intervention yesterday in the Withdrawal debate didn’t go too well. Gove has been doing his best snake oil salesman impression and will have the Murdoch papers backing. Depends if they still want a Brexiteer.

    Hard to say really. They are all pretty sh**.

    If the Tories lose a vote of no confidence which is looking at least possible then they might not have a say in who’s PM

  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217

    Chaz Hill said:

    So who is going to replace May then?

    I noticed Johnson’s intervention yesterday in the Withdrawal debate didn’t go too well. Gove has been doing his best snake oil salesman impression and will have the Murdoch papers backing. Depends if they still want a Brexiteer.

    Hard to say really. They are all pretty sh**.

    If the Tories lose a vote of no confidence which is looking at least possible then they might not have a say in who’s PM

    They will still be looking for a new leader though. With a bit of luck they will split and destroy themselves.
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/05/ukip-islamophobic-nigel-farage-resigning-party?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Nigel’s looking for a new political home. Time for him to return to his roots?
  • Chaz Hill said:
    I think he will be heading up a new party based on 'his' UKIP. It will be a natural home for any number of Hard Brexit/ERG Tories if they have the guts to split. Said it before and I will say it again. "Breaks my heart to see the Tories tearing themselves apart".
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    edited December 2018
    I can't be the only one who has noticed through the current political crisis, but the Prime Minister has been getting a sympathetic press bordering on bias. Where I think she is being ridiculously stubborn, others see her as being stoic. When politicians of all parties, including her own, are making fair criticisms of her, you get the interviewers saying - you have to admire her resiliance and grit whatever your politics. Sorry, but I can't see anything to admire - she has got to this inevitable point by trying to fob off two opposite sides within her party - the can has been kicked down the road. The negotiations were primarily with her own party who couldn't agree what they wanted, rather than the EU. Then something was botched together at the last minute, totally different to what we were promised.

    Don't forget, she called the election that created the extreme difficulties in the first place because she thought she could wipe Labour off the political map.

    I think history will judge her as one of the worst prime ministers this country has ever had. I don't admire her at all!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    They do that. Theresa May is a good bloke kind of thing, steadfastetc. She chose to call that election salivating for long term power at a time she thought she (strong and stable) could give Corbyn (coalition of chaos) a kicking.
    Tories are like that, a crust often hiding princes and princesses of darkness, look at Jeremy Hunt for example, as for that Attorney General the other day doing Donald Sindens farewell performance, do me a favour. Evil Tories outnumber OK ones by about ten to one in my view.
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    A “dream ticket” of Sajid Javid and Andrea Leadsom being mentioned in the Scum as a possibility of taking over from May. 🤪🤪🤪


  • Chaz Hill said:

    A “dream ticket” of Sajid Javid and Andrea Leadsom being mentioned in the Scum as a possibility of taking over from May. 🤪🤪🤪


    Christ on a bike

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    edited December 2018
    Chaz Hill said:

    A “dream ticket” of Sajid Javid and Andrea Leadsom being mentioned in the Scum as a possibility of taking over from May. 🤪🤪🤪


    Not a good dream - possibly even a nightmare!

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Chaz Hill said:

    A “dream ticket” of Sajid Javid and Andrea Leadsom being mentioned in the Scum as a possibility of taking over from May. 🤪🤪🤪


    A joint Prime Ministership?
    It's bad enough having one Tory in charge.
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    edited December 2018
    As expected papers today full of 'leading' tories more interested in jockeying for leadership than sorting out Brexit clusterf**k.

    FFS Liz Truss now fancying her chances I see. How do these deluded idiots get anywhere near running the country?
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    edited December 2018
    It gets worse. Esther McFester fancying her chances now!

    I thought Andrew Marr pulled Johnson apart pretty well yday. He certainly didn't look too happy as the programme faded out.

    Any of our Conservative minded contributors got any preferences for their next leader?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,742
    It amazes me how she actually may believe she has a chance!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I thought Marr should have pressed Boris the Vile on his detailed solution to the Irish border if there is no backstop or trade agreement.
    I liked it that Marr reminded Boris the Vile that he had plunged British citizen Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe deeper into her Iranian jail hell. Boris response was that there are/were things going on the rest of us don't know about and implied that as a result we should shut up about it.
    He is a Tory and leaver. Axiomatically Tories and Leavers have allied themselves to this man.
    That is their choice, but for me he makes my skin crawl, he has the scabies effect on me. This is a man so rich he forgot about £50k or so he ought to have told Parliament about. Anyway reason and facts don't cut it with regard to Boris, those who love him would happily consume his dung because he is him, even if he was pulling out their nails one by one.
  • seth plum said:

    I thought Marr should have pressed Boris the Vile on his detailed solution to the Irish border if there is no backstop or trade agreement.
    I liked it that Marr reminded Boris the Vile that he had plunged British citizen Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe deeper into her Iranian jail hell. Boris response was that there are/were things going on the rest of us don't know about and implied that as a result we should shut up about it.
    He is a Tory and leaver. Axiomatically Tories and Leavers have allied themselves to this man.
    That is their choice, but for me he makes my skin crawl, he has the scabies effect on me. This is a man so rich he forgot about £50k or so he ought to have told Parliament about. Anyway reason and facts don't cut it with regard to Boris, those who love him would happily consume his dung because he is him, even if he was pulling out their nails one by one.

    I can’t be sure Seth but I sense you’re not a big fan ?

  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,737
    Chaz Hill said:

    It gets worse. Esther McFester fancying her chances now!

    I thought Andrew Marr pulled Johnson apart pretty well yday. He certainly didn't look too happy as the programme faded out.

    Any of our Conservative minded contributors got any preferences for their next leader?

    Ruth Davidson
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,598
    Croydon said:

    Chaz Hill said:

    It gets worse. Esther McFester fancying her chances now!

    I thought Andrew Marr pulled Johnson apart pretty well yday. He certainly didn't look too happy as the programme faded out.

    Any of our Conservative minded contributors got any preferences for their next leader?

    Ruth Davidson
    Good one, I was struggling to come up with anyone but she’d be pretty good I reckon.
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Croydon said:

    Chaz Hill said:

    It gets worse. Esther McFester fancying her chances now!

    I thought Andrew Marr pulled Johnson apart pretty well yday. He certainly didn't look too happy as the programme faded out.

    Any of our Conservative minded contributors got any preferences for their next leader?

    Ruth Davidson
    Good one, I was struggling to come up with anyone but she’d be pretty good I reckon.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/16/ruth-davidson-rules-out-bid-become-conservative-leader-scottish-tory
  • Chaz Hill said:

    It gets worse. Esther McFester fancying her chances now!

    I thought Andrew Marr pulled Johnson apart pretty well yday. He certainly didn't look too happy as the programme faded out.

    Any of our Conservative minded contributors got any preferences for their next leader?

    FFS @Chaz Hill everybody knows its Esther McVile.
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