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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • If we get Grigg I will be seriously impressed with our recruitment this summer, I am still left unconvinced that they won't leave us short in at least one area though.

    We are still short at full back and reliant on our two staying fit but I would accept that if we sign another good striker.

    Phillips out on loan with a keeper arriving and possibly a winger on loan until January in an ideal world but they are not priorities.
  • If we get Grigg I will be seriously impressed with our recruitment this summer, I am still left unconvinced that they won't leave us short in at least one area though.

    We are still short at full back and reliant on our two staying fit but I would accept that if we sign another good striker.

    Phillips out on loan with a keeper arriving and possibly a winger on loan until January in an ideal world but they are not priorities.
    We're ok at RB; reports on Dijksteel are good and Konsa looks an absolute thoroughbred. Left back looks dodgy beyond JDS
  • wmcf123 said:

    If we get Grigg I will be seriously impressed with our recruitment this summer, I am still left unconvinced that they won't leave us short in at least one area though.

    We are still short at full back and reliant on our two staying fit but I would accept that if we sign another good striker.

    Phillips out on loan with a keeper arriving and possibly a winger on loan until January in an ideal world but they are not priorities.
    We're ok at RB; reports on Dijksteel are good and Konsa looks an absolute thoroughbred. Left back looks dodgy beyond JDS
    Compared to other areas on the pitch, RB is still a bit of a risk. I thought we should sign someone but it's certainly not a priority. Konsa can play there and we have three others in Barnes, Dijksteel and RCC. But in truth, that is very inexperienced cover. The reports on Dijksteel are good, but this is based on a pre-season friendly or two and a cup game against League 2 opposition. He is still raw and not even a RB by trade. LB cover is 2 CB's in Lennon and Sarr, a RB in Barnes and Jackson. In terms of numbers thats fine but not sure I would want any of them playing much time there. Obviously we have Page but not sure when he's back, always seems injured.
  • Magennis has regularly started ahead of Grigg for N Ireland, which suggests that his all round game is maybe better?

    Either way, I don't think it's obvious that Grigg would automatically play instead of Josh

  • JamesSeed said:

    Sage said:

    As far as I know, we want Grigg and he wants to come to us. The problem is Wigan and whether they allow him to leave, but that is also down to Wigan possibly signing another striker if he comes to us.

    Like many things in football, there's a domino effect, we just have to hope they fall for us.

    Any source for that? Haven't read anywhere that he wants to come to us. Would be good if he did of course.
    Nothing to read publicly but it is something that Grigg does want to do. If you need more than just me saying it and want something else, have a listen carefully to exactly what Robinson says in his post match interview, it confirms what I have been told.

    Grigg has worked with Robinson before, was prolific for him and to put it this way, Wigan are playing a Newcastle youngster in front of him right now, that's not saying Grigg isn't good enough, because he is, he'd just prefer to leave and join us instead.

    On a side note, and this isn't something of source but throwing it out there.. how would people feel if Novak was involved in some kind of deal to bring Grigg to the club? It allows him to move back up north, we get him off the books and he can kickstart his career, whilst we sign a player who has been very good in this league and for Robinson previously. We would of course need to sign another one on loan too, or it would leave us in the same position as we are now.
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    wmcf123 said:

    If we get Grigg I will be seriously impressed with our recruitment this summer, I am still left unconvinced that they won't leave us short in at least one area though.

    We are still short at full back and reliant on our two staying fit but I would accept that if we sign another good striker.

    Phillips out on loan with a keeper arriving and possibly a winger on loan until January in an ideal world but they are not priorities.
    We're ok at RB; reports on Dijksteel are good and Konsa looks an absolute thoroughbred. Left back looks dodgy beyond JDS
    Compared to other areas on the pitch, RB is still a bit of a risk. I thought we should sign someone but it's certainly not a priority. Konsa can play there and we have three others in Barnes, Dijksteel and RCC. But in truth, that is very inexperienced cover. The reports on Dijksteel are good, but this is based on a pre-season friendly or two and a cup game against League 2 opposition. He is still raw and not even a RB by trade. LB cover is 2 CB's in Lennon and Sarr, a RB in Barnes and Jackson. In terms of numbers thats fine but not sure I would want any of them playing much time there. Obviously we have Page but not sure when he's back, always seems injured.
    League 2 opposition who have started the season well. I was one who gave Dijksteel a glowing reference based on his performance v Exeter, it doesn't matter who the opposition is, the basics such as tackling, control, passing, movement and reading the game will still be the same if it's Exeter or Wigan. I first saw Konsa vs Ipswich in the pre-season friendly last year and knew then what a talent he was too.

    I appreciate the point you make about having senior backup but IMO Dijksteel is good enough for this level to play a good run of games and I would far rather any money we have available goes on another striker. I do share your concern about lack of cover at left back while Page is out though.
  • wmcf123 said:

    If we get Grigg I will be seriously impressed with our recruitment this summer, I am still left unconvinced that they won't leave us short in at least one area though.

    We are still short at full back and reliant on our two staying fit but I would accept that if we sign another good striker.

    Phillips out on loan with a keeper arriving and possibly a winger on loan until January in an ideal world but they are not priorities.
    We're ok at RB; reports on Dijksteel are good and Konsa looks an absolute thoroughbred. Left back looks dodgy beyond JDS
    Compared to other areas on the pitch, RB is still a bit of a risk. I thought we should sign someone but it's certainly not a priority. Konsa can play there and we have three others in Barnes, Dijksteel and RCC. But in truth, that is very inexperienced cover. The reports on Dijksteel are good, but this is based on a pre-season friendly or two and a cup game against League 2 opposition. He is still raw and not even a RB by trade. LB cover is 2 CB's in Lennon and Sarr, a RB in Barnes and Jackson. In terms of numbers thats fine but not sure I would want any of them playing much time there. Obviously we have Page but not sure when he's back, always seems injured.
    League 2 opposition who have started the season well. I was one who gave Dijksteel a glowing reference based on his performance v Exeter, it doesn't matter who the opposition is, the basics such as tackling, control, passing, movement and reading the game will still be the same if it's Exeter or Wigan. I first saw Konsa vs Ipswich in the pre-season friendly last year and knew then what a talent he was too.

    I appreciate the point you make about having senior backup but IMO Dijksteel is good enough for this level to play a good run of games and I would far rather any money we have available goes on another striker. I do share your concern about lack of cover at left back while Page is out though.
    Don't get me wrong, I have repeatedly stated the priority is the striker. I was more talking about in an ideal world, then we are short at full-back, possibly a winger to cover Marshall and a keeper with Phillips loaned out.

    Obviously we are on a budget so you need to prioritise and a striker is desperately needed, whether Novak stays or not. I haven't seen Dijksteel yet but am not doubting how well he has played so far. But we do need to remember he is still a young player, and possibly not a RB. Would still be a risk if he had to fill in for an injured Solly if he happened to be out for a month or two. That being said, I have always encouraged the use of youngsters. We are a League 1 side, not Champions League contenders so I'm sure he could do a job.
  • We are only short of a striker at this point in time and maybe a goalkeeper.

    We have two players for every other position and this is a very strong squad.
  • Something odd here re Novak. Wanting him out seemingly not coming from the club so this has been the player and agent.

    With two weeks left of the window I can only assume that Novaks agent has been touting his player around behind the clubs back. If he hasn't then finding a new club willing to take LN on would seem unlikely given the short time involved.
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  • homesick ???........he played in Birmingham last year so not exactly miles away. I could understand it if he was from one of RD's network clubs & never lived in the UK. Tell him to grow some.
  • JamesSeed said:

    sam3110 said:

    I dont think Grigg would necessarily start but the idea of a new challenge and a potentially fair crack of the whip if/when he does might be enough to get him over the line, if he & Charlton are looking to make it happen of course!

    Can only hope though, would be a good signing.

    One of the more prolific league one strikers in recent years, of course he would start
    Not inspiring loyalty in your players when you sign someone and chuck him straight in the team ahead of the guy you have issued a new contract to for being consistent...
    That's football for you. It's how you manage these situations that counts.
    Yeah, it goes to show how different football is from the real world though. If my boss had just given me a nice pay rise, with a hefty loyalty bonus then said we've got someone else in to do your job, so you can just sit on your arse for the next couple of years, I'd have been delighted.
  • cafcfan said:

    JamesSeed said:

    sam3110 said:

    I dont think Grigg would necessarily start but the idea of a new challenge and a potentially fair crack of the whip if/when he does might be enough to get him over the line, if he & Charlton are looking to make it happen of course!

    Can only hope though, would be a good signing.

    One of the more prolific league one strikers in recent years, of course he would start
    Not inspiring loyalty in your players when you sign someone and chuck him straight in the team ahead of the guy you have issued a new contract to for being consistent...
    That's football for you. It's how you manage these situations that counts.
    Yeah, it goes to show how different football is from the real world though. If my boss had just given me a nice pay rise, with a hefty loyalty bonus then said we've got someone else in to do your job, so you can just sit on your arse for the next couple of years, I'd have been delighted.
    Yes but playing football is immensly enjoyable (or can be) whereas most jobs aren't.

    Big night for Novak tomorrow, assuming he plays.
  • cafcfan said:

    JamesSeed said:

    sam3110 said:

    I dont think Grigg would necessarily start but the idea of a new challenge and a potentially fair crack of the whip if/when he does might be enough to get him over the line, if he & Charlton are looking to make it happen of course!

    Can only hope though, would be a good signing.

    One of the more prolific league one strikers in recent years, of course he would start
    Not inspiring loyalty in your players when you sign someone and chuck him straight in the team ahead of the guy you have issued a new contract to for being consistent...
    That's football for you. It's how you manage these situations that counts.
    Yeah, it goes to show how different football is from the real world though. If my boss had just given me a nice pay rise, with a hefty loyalty bonus then said we've got someone else in to do your job, so you can just sit on your arse for the next couple of years, I'd have been delighted.
    I'm sure that you're joking but that comment says more about the state of the UK workforce that it does about professional footballers.

    I have never worked with anyone that was willing to take the money for nothing. Typically people with that attitude end up in dead end jobs or sitting at home on benefits smoking drugs all day long.

    For that reason I would be disappointed by, and have no respect for, any player that was willing to sit in our reserves or on the bench and bank the money.
  • homesick ???........he played in Birmingham last year so not exactly miles away. I could understand it if he was from one of RD's network clubs & never lived in the UK. Tell him to grow some.

    Chesterfield!
  • uie2 said:

    homesick ???........he played in Birmingham last year so not exactly miles away. I could understand it if he was from one of RD's network clubs & never lived in the UK. Tell him to grow some.

    Chesterfield!
    Still not a million miles away. Can get there in less than 4 hours by car. Shudder to think what he'd do if he was in the Army & posted to Iraq for 6 months !!!
  • I guess that's why he didn't join the Army, and neither did you or I!
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  • I guess that's why he didn't join the Army, and neither did you or I!

    True but he's a professional footballer living a lifestyle most of us dream about and getting paid more than the fucking Prime Minister for the Privilege.



  • Plymouth have signed Nadir ciftci on loan from Celtic . Think we were linked with him a few years ago. Good signing for them
  • I guess that's why he didn't join the Army, and neither did you or I!

    True but he's a professional footballer living a lifestyle most of us dream about and getting paid more than the fucking Prime Minister for the Privilege.

    But she spends longer on the bench than he does.
  • I guess that's why he didn't join the Army, and neither did you or I!

    True but he's a professional footballer living a lifestyle most of us dream about and getting paid more than the fucking Prime Minister for the Privilege.



    He's living in Petts Wood.

    It's nice but not really a lifestule most of us dream about (unless you live in Bexley of course)
    I'd rather live in Bexley than Petts Wood.
  • I guess that's why he didn't join the Army, and neither did you or I!

    True but he's a professional footballer living a lifestyle most of us dream about and getting paid more than the fucking Prime Minister for the Privilege.



    He's living in Petts Wood.

    It's nice but not really a lifestule most of us dream about (unless you live in Bexley of course)
    I'd rather live in Bexley than Petts Wood.
    Chelsfield is God's favourite place


    Allegedly
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