And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground
Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility
Shame on you sir
what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.
Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp
J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week
I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week
Do you mind if I don’t put my house on it?
No mate because as a man who likes a bet I wouldn’t lay one bean on it coming off
But this has to end soon or as a football playing team we will be fucked if it don’t
NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.
It is not rubbish.
Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
You're splitting straws for no good reason. Let's be precise. It would appear that as of right now, The Aussies do not have enough cash that they are prepared to invest to buy Charlton outright.
(It doesn't matter if Muir has millions he is not prepared to spend on Charlton, so what ? RD also had millions he wasn't prepared to spend sensibly on Charlton).
NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.
It is not rubbish.
Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
But that’s where you are incorrect large in the context of buying cafc the Aussie consortium led by Muir right now does not have the funding in place to conclude the deal currently
The official statement eluded to it
Mr seeds grandson has said it this evening
The facts remain that yes there is atleast seriously wealthy individual who could buy the club using less than 10% of his net wealth but he currently chooses not to
If they were told to conclude today they couldn’t
Due to lack of funds within the consortium to be released into this project
In my world that means you ain’t got the money
I find it hilarious that all day it’s been said I have been fed lies and shite to belittle and muddy the Aussies when all along that person also knew that right now the Aussie bidders still need one or two more people to conclude and seal the deal
These are all facts
A blip. The investment is spread out amongst them. When one had to pull out, another is replacing him. No big deal. You’ve said they haven’t the funds all the way along. Not true,
NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.
It is not rubbish.
Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
But that’s where you are incorrect large in the context of buying cafc the Aussie consortium led by Muir right now does not have the funding in place to conclude the deal currently
The official statement eluded to it
Mr seeds grandson has said it this evening
The facts remain that yes there is atleast seriously wealthy individual who could buy the club using less than 10% of his net wealth but he currently chooses not to
If they were told to conclude today they couldn’t
Due to lack of funds within the consortium to be released into this project
In my world that means you ain’t got the money
I find it hilarious that all day it’s been said I have been fed lies and shite to belittle and muddy the Aussies when all along that person also knew that right now the Aussie bidders still need one or two more people to conclude and seal the deal
These are all facts
A blip. The investment is spread out amongst them. When one had to pull out, another is replacing him. No big deal. You’ve said they haven’t the funds all the way along. Not true,
When the Greek left they had insufficient funds
When the other two left they had insufficient funds
So at the beginning in the middle and right now they don’t have the funding in place
And the deadline is next week for many things including your kids mates dads mob to find the cash or the only other alternatives are to walk away or like they asked RD if they can lease the groundxand training ground
Now nothing you post again will hold water because you hold back all your info and only let out what you think will buy you and the Aussies credibility
Shame on you sir
what date and time is this deadline? Next week doesn’t suffice.
Next week large there is a deadline for decisions to be made on both the debt and the takeover I put it out there about 20 pages agp
J block mentioned Elliot said watch this week
I said Thursday I expect us to know one way or other by next week
You are presumably aware that various ex-directors will not take a hit - as is Roland - so I’m not sure what you mean by a deadline on the debt. That isn’t going to change.
Those directors can’t sit on the offer for ever so it’s a deadline to answer
You know as well as I do if they don’t sell then the ground and training ground can’t be leased back
So either RD drops the price or the Aussies find the needed investment or the directors sell
This all has to conclude soon hence the deadline
My understanding is that RD already knows their answer. Hence my point.
NLA can you stop posting rubbish like the Aussies haven't got the cssh becaise Muir obviously has. What the consortium has is a well structured business plan with budgeted investment and shared risk. If a hedge fund offered you 6% would you sink all your money in or a fraction then see how things go? Too many poor football owners fail due to open cheque bookd.
It is not rubbish.
Why not? Muir has the money to buy us on his own but he is a successful businessman for a reason. They are just spreading the risk around. One of those sharing the risk was rejected by the EFL because of links to another Club. So now they are looking for a replacement investor. If NLA was to say that LargeAddick doesn’t have the money to conclude a deal he’d be right, just, but to say the Aussies don’t have the money is plainly wrong, they have it but are just not stupid enough to want to spend it.
But that’s where you are incorrect large in the context of buying cafc the Aussie consortium led by Muir right now does not have the funding in place to conclude the deal currently
The official statement eluded to it
Mr seeds grandson has said it this evening
The facts remain that yes there is atleast seriously wealthy individual who could buy the club using less than 10% of his net wealth but he currently chooses not to
If they were told to conclude today they couldn’t
Due to lack of funds within the consortium to be released into this project
In my world that means you ain’t got the money
I find it hilarious that all day it’s been said I have been fed lies and shite to belittle and muddy the Aussies when all along that person also knew that right now the Aussie bidders still need one or two more people to conclude and seal the deal
These are all facts
A blip. The investment is spread out amongst them. When one had to pull out, another is replacing him. No big deal. You’ve said they haven’t the funds all the way along. Not true,
One of the investors they were relying on, was disqualified from investing by the EFL. They had no immediate replacement and therefore the deal has not been done, because they do not have enough investors willing to invest.
If they get additional investor(s) whether this week or next week or in 6 months, then they will have enough cash to do the deal.
Both you and NLA agree on this, so please let's end it here, because many of us think we understand . Thanks.
Then it makes it very simple then AB they either find the money to buy us lock stock and barrel or they leave empty handed
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
Then it makes it very simple then AB they either find the money to buy us lock stock and barrel or they leave empty handed
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
That doesn’t reflect the sums involved though, which while significant to individuals are not that meaningful in terms of the takeover, even cumulatively, especially if you take Murray’s £2.6m out. We’re then talking fractions of £4.4m and in individual cases fractions of £250,000. Nobody is buying that narrative. It’s nothIng to Duchatelet, particularly if it leaves him to pick up another £10m loss.
@Airman Brown you're probably best placed to answer this one.
Could there potentially be a scenario where the three ex-directors who would refuse to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out could they potentially be repaid there money owed to them leaving just four ex-directors all in favour of The Valley & Sparrows Lane being leased out? A partial repayment if you like of the ex-directors loans or is the repayment of the loans kind of an all or nothing arrangement?
In short if we were left with 4 ex-directors all happy to have The Valley and Sparrows Lane leased is this possible?
Then it makes it very simple then AB they either find the money to buy us lock stock and barrel or they leave empty handed
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
That doesn’t reflect the sums involved though, which while significant to individuals are not that meaningful in terms of the takeover, even cumulatively, especially if you take Murray’s £2.6m out. We’re then talking fractions of £4.4m and in individual cases fractions of £250,000. Nobody is buying that narrative. It’s nothIng to Duchatelet, particularly if it leaves him to pick up another £10m loss.
I don’t see him blinking now I reckon he will be more than happy to sit on the club doing the minimum to keep us in the division
Yes he wants to sell he also knows he can get offers in the region of 40 mil
If the price is now not met I honestly don’t buy that he will sell and we will be stuck like this for another 12 months
He called you a troll for daring to ask about Muir...… twice!
I think he was talking about Stu of Kunming........not me.....least I hope so!
Certainly wasn't you sir! Stu has a go at me at every opportunity for some reason best known to himself.
No, i dont, disagreeing with what you post is not having a go, you senile old goat.
Anyway. When I have time I'll reply to the offensive PM you have sent me at 1am.
That’s quite wrong sending PMs to people that are offensive at any time of the morning
All because I'm not convinced the aussies are our saviours, I then get accussed to following some bloke I've never heard of, on a forum I've never visited, it's beyond weird.
It's not my fault nothing he's said on this thread has come true, although I've never blamed that on him, I really think he posted what he did in good faith, saldy its looking more and more likely the Aussies found a willing idiot to get their story across, maybe they should focus a little more on getting their own house on order.
as their own website stated, they've been trying to raise funds for 16 months, that is a long, long time.
Anyway I'm not getting involved with him anymore, I really think the bloke is wired up wrong he loses his shit as soon as anyone doesn't fall in line with what he's saying. Everyone is being fed spin and lies, apart from him, of course, no way would his contacts say anything that wasn't 100% true. Delusional.
Then it makes it very simple then AB they either find the money to buy us lock stock and barrel or they leave empty handed
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
That doesn’t reflect the sums involved though, which while significant to individuals are not that meaningful in terms of the takeover, even cumulatively, especially if you take Murray’s £2.6m out. We’re then talking fractions of £4.4m and in individual cases fractions of £250,000. Nobody is buying that narrative. It’s nothIng to Duchatelet, particularly if it leaves him to pick up another £10m loss.
I don’t see him blinking now I reckon he will be more than happy to sit on the club doing the minimum to keep us in the division
Yes he wants to sell he also knows he can get offers in the region of 40 mil
If the price is now not met I honestly don’t buy that he will sell and we will be stuck like this for another 12 months
Which will be shite
Then he’s a madman, because he must have worked out by now that in order to maintain whatever value the business has he will have take another huge hit every year. He can’t cut his way out of it.
@Airman Brown you're probably best placed to answer this one.
Could there potentially be a scenario where the three ex-directors who would refuse to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out could they potentially be repaid there money owed to them leaving just four ex-directors all in favour of The Valley & Sparrows Lane being leased out? A partial repayment if you like of the ex-directors loans or is the repayment of the loans kind of an all or nothing arrangement?
In short if we were left with 4 ex-directors all happy to have The Valley and Sparrows Lane leased is this possible?
The loans are all independent of each other, so they can all be settled on different terms - or not settled - but whether the individuals would agree to that is another matter.
He called you a troll for daring to ask about Muir...… twice!
I think he was talking about Stu of Kunming........not me.....least I hope so!
Certainly wasn't you sir! Stu has a go at me at every opportunity for some reason best known to himself.
No, i dont, disagreeing with what you post is not having a go, you senile old goat.
Anyway. When I have time I'll reply to the offensive PM you have sent me at 1am.
That’s quite wrong sending PMs to people that are offensive at any time of the morning
All because I'm not convinced the aussies are our saviours, I then get accussed to following some bloke I've never heard of, on a forum I've never visited, it's beyond weird.
It's not my fault nothing he's said on this thread has come true, although I've never blamed that on him, I really think he posted what he did in good faith, saldy its looking more and more likely the Aussies found a willing idiot to get their story across, maybe they should focus a little more on getting their own house on order.
as their own website stated, they've been trying to raise funds for 16 months, that is a long, long time.
Anyway I'm not getting involved with him anymore, I really think the bloke is wired up wrong he loses his shit as soon as anyone doesn't fall in line with what he's saying. Everyone is being fed spin and lies, apart from him, of course, no way would his contacts say anything that wasn't 100% true. Delusional.
Can’t disagree with anything there mate
But the information that they have been searching for funding for 16months is a shocker I never knew that if they haven’t found it in that long it’s going to be a tough ask to find one or two before the season starts
He called you a troll for daring to ask about Muir...… twice!
I think he was talking about Stu of Kunming........not me.....least I hope so!
Certainly wasn't you sir! Stu has a go at me at every opportunity for some reason best known to himself.
No, i dont, disagreeing with what you post is not having a go, you senile old goat.
Anyway. When I have time I'll reply to the offensive PM you have sent me at 1am.
That’s quite wrong sending PMs to people that are offensive at any time of the morning
All because I'm not convinced the aussies are our saviours, I then get accussed to following some bloke I've never heard of, on a forum I've never visited, it's beyond weird.
It's not my fault nothing he's said on this thread has come true, although I've never blamed that on him, I really think he posted what he did in good faith, saldy its looking more and more likely the Aussies found a willing idiot to get their story across, maybe they should focus a little more on getting their own house on order.
as their own website stated, they've been trying to raise funds for 16 months, that is a long, long time.
Anyway I'm not getting involved with him anymore, I really think the bloke is wired up wrong he loses his shit as soon as anyone doesn't fall in line with what he's saying. Everyone is being fed spin and lies, apart from him, of course, no way would his contacts say anything that wasn't 100% true. Delusional.
Can’t disagree with anything there mate
But the information that they have been searching for funding for 16months is a shocker I never knew that if they haven’t found it in that long it’s going to be a tough ask to find one or two before the season starts
Discussions about their lack of funding have happened from page 1 of this very thread, April 2017, so 14 months, my mistake.
Yet apparently believing that it might actually be true makes you a troll / stupid.
So, the consortium didn't have the required funds then, by James' own admission they don't have the funds now, when did they have the funds?
@Airman Brown you're probably best placed to answer this one.
Could there potentially be a scenario where the three ex-directors who would refuse to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out could they potentially be repaid there money owed to them leaving just four ex-directors all in favour of The Valley & Sparrows Lane being leased out? A partial repayment if you like of the ex-directors loans or is the repayment of the loans kind of an all or nothing arrangement?
In short if we were left with 4 ex-directors all happy to have The Valley and Sparrows Lane leased is this possible?
The loans are all independent of each other, so they can all be settled on different terms - or not settled - but whether the individuals would agree to that is another matter.
Thanks Airman, and lets say the three who refused to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out were offered there outstanding loans in full, could they still refuse to accept repayment or can RD potentially pay them back in full regardless?
Point of order ladies and gentlemen. It’s all very depressing. Can we stop the sniping? We are better than this. Definitely looking at a few people on here differently.
@Airman Brown you're probably best placed to answer this one.
Could there potentially be a scenario where the three ex-directors who would refuse to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out could they potentially be repaid there money owed to them leaving just four ex-directors all in favour of The Valley & Sparrows Lane being leased out? A partial repayment if you like of the ex-directors loans or is the repayment of the loans kind of an all or nothing arrangement?
In short if we were left with 4 ex-directors all happy to have The Valley and Sparrows Lane leased is this possible?
The loans are all independent of each other, so they can all be settled on different terms - or not settled - but whether the individuals would agree to that is another matter.
Thanks Airman, and lets say the three who refused to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out were offered there outstanding loans in full, could they still refuse to accept repayment or can RD potentially pay them back in full regardless?
I can't remember what it's called, but essentially there is a legal precedent that loan repayments cannot be refused if offered in full and in line with the original terms (or better) to unreasonably keep hold of a charge on the security, so would suggest there's no way for the three to block this if the loans are all separate and not linked, but without seeing the terms of the loan and the contracts you couldn't be 100% sure.
Then it makes it very simple then AB they either find the money to buy us lock stock and barrel or they leave empty handed
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
That doesn’t reflect the sums involved though, which while significant to individuals are not that meaningful in terms of the takeover, even cumulatively, especially if you take Murray’s £2.6m out. We’re then talking fractions of £4.4m and in individual cases fractions of £250,000. Nobody is buying that narrative. It’s nothIng to Duchatelet, particularly if it leaves him to pick up another £10m loss.
I don’t see him blinking now I reckon he will be more than happy to sit on the club doing the minimum to keep us in the division
Yes he wants to sell he also knows he can get offers in the region of 40 mil
If the price is now not met I honestly don’t buy that he will sell and we will be stuck like this for another 12 months
Which will be shite
Then he’s a madman, because he must have worked out by now that in order to maintain whatever value the business has he will have take another huge hit every year. He can’t cut his way out of it.
That we already know , none of his reactions or actions have been sane
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But this has to end soon or as a football playing team we will be fucked if it don’t
Let's be precise.
It would appear that as of right now, The Aussies do not have enough cash that they are prepared to invest to buy Charlton outright.
(It doesn't matter if Muir has millions he is not prepared to spend on Charlton, so what ?
RD also had millions he wasn't prepared to spend sensibly on Charlton).
When the other two left they had insufficient funds
So at the beginning in the middle and right now they don’t have the funding in place
What part of that is incorrect
None of it
Earlier I was a liar now it’s a blip
Anyway. When I have time I'll reply to the offensive PM you have sent me at 1am.
They had no immediate replacement and therefore the deal has not been done, because they do not have enough investors willing to invest.
If they get additional investor(s) whether this week or next week or in 6 months, then they will have enough cash to do the deal.
Both you and NLA agree on this, so please let's end it here, because many of us think we understand . Thanks.
So the next set of chemical Ali shite to come from within will paint those who decide to not deal as part of the collapse of the takeover should the Aussies not raise the investment into the consortium
Apparently, it was foretold on a Mayan Calendar, and Nostradamus had occasional obtuse references as well, not all of it terribly comforting.
*NB unless, of course it does (standard disclaimer applies).
Could there potentially be a scenario where the three ex-directors who would refuse to have The Valley & Sparrows Lane leased out could they potentially be repaid there money owed to them leaving just four ex-directors all in favour of The Valley & Sparrows Lane being leased out? A partial repayment if you like of the ex-directors loans or is the repayment of the loans kind of an all or nothing arrangement?
In short if we were left with 4 ex-directors all happy to have The Valley and Sparrows Lane leased is this possible?
Yes he wants to sell he also knows he can get offers in the region of 40 mil
If the price is now not met I honestly don’t buy that he will sell and we will be stuck like this for another 12 months
Which will be shite
It's not my fault nothing he's said on this thread has come true, although I've never blamed that on him, I really think he posted what he did in good faith, saldy its looking more and more likely the Aussies found a willing idiot to get their story across, maybe they should focus a little more on getting their own house on order.
as their own website stated, they've been trying to raise funds for 16 months, that is a long, long time.
Anyway I'm not getting involved with him anymore, I really think the bloke is wired up wrong he loses his shit as soon as anyone doesn't fall in line with what he's saying. Everyone is being fed spin and lies, apart from him, of course, no way would his contacts say anything that wasn't 100% true. Delusional.
But the information that they have been searching for funding for 16months is a shocker I never knew that if they haven’t found it in that long it’s going to be a tough ask to find one or two before the season starts
Yet apparently believing that it might actually be true makes you a troll / stupid.
So, the consortium didn't have the required funds then, by James' own admission they don't have the funds now, when did they have the funds?
We have been dealing with a lunatic for 4 yrs