Has Burger Boy done anything to get him fired you ask ? Well maybe im a tad bias here I have to say but , how about employing goons with no ID who then go on to attack the clubs fans ?
reversing the question --- has he ever done anything to warrant his position ?
Spot on. You could also argue that the toxic relationship between Keohane and fans (remember the filming of fans too) is detrimental to one of the key aims of the new owners, namely to rebuild fan engagement.
I mean this looks a bit "Rory Stewart pretending to hold the camera", let's be honest.
Though obviously the sentiment is great, and I'll be there Saturday.
Its the same simple rhetoric that we've seen before - Its designed to get fickle fans onboard with the new venture; Michael Slater was another who used the OS as a blog at times, giving updates about himself etc.
Its by far the easiest way to get onside with fans and its baffling why we didnt see it from the Belgians!!
I mean this looks a bit "Rory Stewart pretending to hold the camera", let's be honest.
Though obviously the sentiment is great, and I'll be there Saturday.
Its the same simple rhetoric that we've seen before - Its designed to get fickle fans onboard with the new venture; Michael Slater was another who used the OS as a blog at times, giving updates about himself etc.
Its by far the easiest way to get onside with fans and its baffling why we didnt see it from the Belgians!!
Because to them we weren't fans, just customers, whose input, financial or otherwise, was unimportant.
Its such a quick and easy thing to do but it kick-starts a connection between the people running the club and the fans that support it. He's definitely got a likeable way about him.
Personally, I think this is quite an important moment, and whether the new owners replace Keohane or retain him sends a big signal. Regardless of his competency or lack of it, he’s a symbol of the distrust we had for the Duchatelet regime and he’s representative of the attitude that held the fans in such contempt. If ESI truly want to build bridges with the fan base, offloading this revolting stormtrooper would be a decent step in the right direction.
Whilst I agree it'd be a great way to appease some fans, has he actually done anything to deserve being fired? You can't just terminate someone's employment because some people don't like em.
There were rumours on here that he was also a workplace bully, which - if true - would certainly have been cause for his employers to caution him about his future behaviour, and to keep a close eye on the situation.
Of course, none of us outside of those who were actually directly involved knows the full circumstances, but there certainly has been a lot of smoke indicating the same source of fire.
Personally, I think this is quite an important moment, and whether the new owners replace Keohane or retain him sends a big signal. Regardless of his competency or lack of it, he’s a symbol of the distrust we had for the Duchatelet regime and he’s representative of the attitude that held the fans in such contempt. If ESI truly want to build bridges with the fan base, offloading this revolting stormtrooper would be a decent step in the right direction.
Whilst I agree it'd be a great way to appease some fans, has he actually done anything to deserve being fired? You can't just terminate someone's employment because some people don't like em.
There were rumours on here that he was also a workplace bully, which - if true - would certainly have been cause for his employers to caution him about his future behaviour, and to keep a close eye on the situation.
Of course, none of us outside of those who were actually directly involved knows the full circumstances, but there certainly has been a lot of smoke indicating the same source of fire.
Oh please don't get me wrong, I would love to see the back of him, the fact he tried what he did with TCE/GH/NLA & Co makes the bloke vermin in my eyes, I just understand why it might take a little time to get rid.
Personally, I think this is quite an important moment, and whether the new owners replace Keohane or retain him sends a big signal. Regardless of his competency or lack of it, he’s a symbol of the distrust we had for the Duchatelet regime and he’s representative of the attitude that held the fans in such contempt. If ESI truly want to build bridges with the fan base, offloading this revolting stormtrooper would be a decent step in the right direction.
Whilst I agree it'd be a great way to appease some fans, has he actually done anything to deserve being fired? You can't just terminate someone's employment because some people don't like em.
There were rumours on here that he was also a workplace bully, which - if true - would certainly have been cause for his employers to caution him about his future behaviour, and to keep a close eye on the situation.
Of course, none of us outside of those who were actually directly involved knows the full circumstances, but there certainly has been a lot of smoke indicating the same source of fire.
Agreed. I’d be very surprised given what I’ve heard and how he acts generally whether there weren’t grounds for a dismissal.
Unfortunately they probably won’t ha e been appropriately documented to date and there will need to be new issues to write down before a very expensive pay off can be avoided:
Given how he has operated over his illustrious tenure with us though, would imagine a couple of issues a month could be brought to a sympathetic ear.
I would imagine the new owners will want to see how he works rather than make a decision which could give them a lot of legal grief because us fans don't like him. I suspect they will want to see what Bowyer can do too before offering him a long term contract, despite the fans liking him! It would be par for the course for a new ownership to review everything they have inherited.
if he lives in Peterborough and matt Southall in London, given how busy Southall in particular must be this week, that does seem to hint at a bit of transfer action???
ESI has filed more papers dealing with share allotments available to view in a few days time. Could be ESI has acquired all the assets of the club rather than buying the company. Would eliminate any potential residual legal liabilities for skeletons found in the cupboard re past transactions and mean a new clean start.
Wonder if the phone call was initially about Ivan Toney though - Seems the meet up has come from a conversation rather than two friends catchint up
The Posh owner says the meeting isn't transfer related though.
That isn't to say that we're not doing business with Posh, just that that isn't the reason for this meeting. And we could be after Madison or Eisa, not Toney or loaning a youth player?
My guess is that Southall is new to running a football club and is meeting up with a mate who has been doing just that for years to pick his brains.
Wonder if the phone call was initially about Ivan Toney though - Seems the meet up has come from a conversation rather than two friends catchint up
The Posh owner says the meeting isn't transfer related though.
That isn't to say that we're not doing business with Posh, just that that isn't the reason for this meeting. And we could be after Madison or Eisa, not Toney or loaning a youth player?
My guess is that Southall is new to running a football club and is meeting up with a mate who has been doing just that for years to pick his brains.
No I meant the initial phone call e.g.
Matt: Can we sign Toney Posh: Sorry no, but we aint met for a while, want to go on a piss up
The way Posh makes it sound is that the meeting they'll be having will be just as a catch up rather than talking transfers
I agree with the earlier comments about hungry players and the Curbs model. I know football has changed dramatically since Curbs built the team to get us out of the Championship in the late 90s, and the sorts of money footballers get these days are crazy, but there must be a way to build a competitive team without going into silly territory when it comes to the balance sheet. I mentioned the Sheff Utd and Burnley models on here before, and I think Wilder and Dyche may share some of the same values that Bowyer does as a manager. Both Dyche and Wilder seem to get players and teams that are working toward the goal of unified success as a team, as opposed to a group of talented individuals each doing their thing inconsistently.
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
I agree with the earlier comments about hungry players and the Curbs model. I know football has changed dramatically since Curbs built the team to get us out of the Championship in the late 90s, and the sorts of money footballers get these days are crazy, but there must be a way to build a competitive team without going into silly territory when it comes to the balance sheet. I mentioned the Sheff Utd and Burnley models on here before, and I think Wilder and Dyche may share some of the same values that Bowyer does as a manager. Both Dyche and Wilder seem to get players and teams that are working toward the goal of unified success as a team, as opposed to a group of talented individuals each doing their thing inconsistently.
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
Powell built a promotion team based on personalities as well as ability, he built a team forming a real togetherness. Bowyer's ethic seems the same.
if he lives in Peterborough and matt Southall in London, given how busy Southall in particular must be this week, that does seem to hint at a bit of transfer action???
Barry Fry to Charlton (undisclosed) Can someone stake out the Valley cafe thats where it bound to be happening!
Wonder if the phone call was initially about Ivan Toney though - Seems the meet up has come from a conversation rather than two friends catchint up
The Posh owner says the meeting isn't transfer related though.
That isn't to say that we're not doing business with Posh, just that that isn't the reason for this meeting. And we could be after Madison or Eisa, not Toney or loaning a youth player?
My guess is that Southall is new to running a football club and is meeting up with a mate who has been doing just that for years to pick his brains.
No I meant the initial phone call e.g.
Matt: Can we sign Toney Posh: Sorry no, but we aint met for a while, want to go on a piss up
The way Posh makes it sound is that the meeting they'll be having will be just as a catch up rather than talking transfers
10 pints later they agree a swap deal, Ivan Toney for Lewis Page and a box set of The Crown
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Though obviously the sentiment is great, and I'll be there Saturday.
Its by far the easiest way to get onside with fans and its baffling why we didnt see it from the Belgians!!
Stand to be corrected but really don't see many West Brom invading home areas and little trouble if they did.
Of course, none of us outside of those who were actually directly involved knows the full circumstances, but there certainly has been a lot of smoke indicating the same source of fire.
Given how he has operated over his illustrious tenure with us though, would imagine a couple of issues a month could be brought to a sympathetic ear.
would be good to get him gone.
Southall out!
That isn't to say that we're not doing business with Posh, just that that isn't the reason for this meeting. And we could be after Madison or Eisa, not Toney or loaning a youth player?
My guess is that Southall is new to running a football club and is meeting up with a mate who has been doing just that for years to pick his brains.
Matt: Can we sign Toney
Posh: Sorry no, but we aint met for a while, want to go on a piss up
The way Posh makes it sound is that the meeting they'll be having will be just as a catch up rather than talking transfers
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
Can someone stake out the Valley cafe thats where it bound to be happening!