The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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It was never going work for us under Roland Duchatelet because he decided to employ a MMORPG cosplaying 12 year old with a laptop to be in charge of player recruitment, ably assisted by bloke who enjoyed taking trips in laundry baskets.kentaddick said:The "feeder system" isn't really a bad system if correctly implemented. Duchatelet's was just so incompetently done that it really didn't work.
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VFRTMRIFTTStig said:
ABWTFIYPOAIDUAWOIAYODAshBurton said:
Sure - me personally think some of our fans pwn agenda was to kill us of just to say I told you so but why would somebody go to such lengths to do training ground and put that much money into something he wants to ruin like above messages it makes no sence plus why ruin something like what they are dying for us and I hope he doesn't sell and start kicking out the ringing leaders plus not many fans follow the chanting Roland out i last 2 games so is the card starting to lose their grip and the fans have realised they are fake and we want Roland in around the corner? its starting to look that way COYRNBAWtony1234 said:I'm away on hols , not reading 300+ posts , can someone summarise for me please
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Google's jumped the gun already and has just showed me an ad for Aussie Rules football on the CL homepage.3
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I can see a potential problem with theory of buying the Valley back in say 5 years when (or if) we reach the PL. Unles Sky somehow manage to stop it's customers using 'other' ways of watching their product I can see the amount of money they spend on the rights shrinking thus the PL not being the promised land it is now.
Then again it may make it easier to actually get there...........1 -
They've also made horrendous losses in reaching the PL, all paid for by their wealthy Russian owner.MuttleyCAFC said:Well, I won't argue that there are going to be better investment opportunities than investing in a football club. I will argue that it can't be lucrative though. The premiership money has risen considerably from when we were in it for starters. Yes, your associated costs go up but there are clubs making good money in the Premier League now and they are not necessarily the top clubs! Last season Bournemouth earned over £70m in prize money - ok, wages, costs would have to come off, but they will be well short of that figure. They were in the bottom three in terms of earnings and the current deal with Sky promises £100m for the lowest eaners this season!
If we can be made into an Australian brand - I would suspect we have potential to make a lot more! That is why I can see why Australians would be interested in us. This is an opportunity to really grow the club.0 -
Charlton spokesperson gone from saying club isn't for sale to saying they're 'unhelpful'.6
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Haven't had time to read the last 6 pages or so.
However there have been enough comments in keeping with my own thoughts that the Valley should not be split from the club.
We only have to look back at our own history to know that doesn't work. Huyler did exactly that and we know what that led to. Also the Orange one tried it with the same outcome at Palace and there are enough examples north of Watford to prove the point also.
If the prospective new incumbents are that stupid to enter such an agreement then trouble will strike this club yet again.
Personally I would prefer to see RD keep losing his shirt until we get the right kind of deal and owners that will get us back on the right footing and have a complete clear out of the SMT with no exceptions.13 -
Welcome back mush!Eirik Bakke said:This scenario absolutely terrifies me!
The Aussie’s have a totally different attitude to professional sports teams, as in any code it is all a franchised based model.
The Aussie rules, (AFL) is the biggest sporting code, here in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne with a couple of new teams recently invented by the league, one in the gold coast (Suns) and one in Western Sydney. (GWS)
There is also a team in Brisbane (Lions) and Sydney (Swans) (more on these later)
NSW and Queensland are predominantly Rugby League (NRL) though, hence the AFL choosing to put new teams in these states to try and tap into a different market, for more $$$$!
Within the AFL, hardly any team plays at their own ground it is all shared stadia, owned by the local football leagues. In Melbourne, half the teams use the MCG and half use the Etihad Stadium.
(Geelong are the only team that use their own ground for a handful of games as it is an hour or so out of Melbourne).
In Adelaide, both teams use the Adelaide oval and here in Perth, both use Subiaco, until the new stadium is built, then both will move there.
Whilst in Sydney, the Swans use the SCG and the new GWS use Spotless stadium.
Gold coast use the Metricon stadium, that is being used for next year’s commonwealth games, (sort of a reverse of the West Ham situation!)
The Adelaide oval, MCG, SCG and the new Perth stadium are then all handed over to the local cricket leagues on or around October 1st each year for 6 months for the summer.
This is before they move a franchise!
The Sydney Swans used to be South Melbourne, (500 miles away!). Brisbane Lions used to be Brisbane Bears before merging with Fitzroy football club, Fitzroy, a suburb in Melbourne, (some 1,000 miles away.)
The NRL is similar, however a couple of teams still play home games at their spiritual home from time to time.
The Soccer teams (proper football) also lease their grounds from different corporations.
As you can start to see, home grounds, are not that important to Aussie teams!
This G Murphy bloke, would be well used to this sort of model with his Richmond connection
I think it is ABSOLUTLEY imperative that the Valley is not separated from Charlton Athletic in any way shape or form.
Especially so when it involves Australian’s and their franchise way of thinking.
It is completely alien to all the ex-pats that reside over here, and I know that living over here, I have only had to endure the absolute crap that these belgian charlatans have served up from afar and not at close quarters, like all you hardy souls back home.
But, I really don’t want my club to be touched by these people, I hope that it really is a tactic used to tempt other parties out into the open.
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If Roland keeps the Valley, I guess we'd have to hope the Aussies hire a good lawyer to draw up a water tight agreement and Roland gets KM to review it for him.24
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If this is the route the sale goes down (leasing the Valley) then it certainly causes worry that at some stage we could get evicted. What if that happens and the ground is turned over for property development? Would new owners have the finances to develop a new site? Would we end up ground sharing again (God forbid)? Any sale should include the stadium and training facilities imho. Can't see the separation leading anywhere good. If any prospective owner hasn't the funds to buy the lot then perhaps they should go shopping somewhere cheaper. Maybe I am being too simplistic and maybe there is a legal mechanism that would prevent the separation of ground and club even as part of a lease agreement.1
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This all sounds like a very well premeditated leak to one particular newspaper. It tells me that Roland wants to sell but not much else. Of course that is good news,but I would not be surprised if the whole process is more protracted than we've been expecting.2
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I think this may be a good time to bite the bullet , move to the Peninsular behind RD's back with the councils approval, and tell him to stick The Valley up his place where the sun doesnt shine, that'd really shaft him- as on several occasions its been stated, he cant really redevelop the Valley without an access road from Woolwich Road.10
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I'd love to do that to Duchatelet, would have to hope the cornerstone investors are good for a bit more than AUS 55m in that case.1
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Charlton athletic is the valley.
The valley is Charlton athletic.
We lost it once only to win it back years later.
Under no circumstances should Roland be allowed to keep the valley when he sells.
I would much rather we wait for someone to buy us entirely than let him keep the valley38 -
It aint gonna happen B72. Dont you realise. RD's asking price is too high, and he clearly wants his money back one way or another- he has deep enough pockets to wait .0
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I still think this is the first step in a bidding war.The_President said:It aint gonna happen B72. Dont you realise. RD's asking price is too high, and he clearly wants his money back one way or another- he has deep enough pockets to wait .
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Statement from the club in this article: http://www.kentlive.news/charlton-athletic-fans-are-unlikely-to-be-happy-with-latest-club-statement-on-those-takeover-rumours/story-30269839-detail/story.html
"The rumours and speculation regarding the sale of Charlton Athletic are unhelpful," a Charlton spokesperson told Kent Live.
"There are many people, mostly intermediaries, who approach us regularly asking whether the club is for sale.
"Whilst we understand Charlton Athletic will always generate interest from potential investors, our priority is to focus on the remaining games this season and planning for a successful 2017/18 season."13 -
That's a bit of a change from yesterday's "we are not for sale"7
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I bet Jimmy Tarbuck is already looking at the "looking for work/looking for staff" thread on here, whilst working out what pay-off he may be able to screw out of his new employers.
Or alternatively, in the fantasy world of Daisy, he is still actively working out the changes he needs to make to the squad for next season.14 - Sponsored links:
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I find it 'unhelpful' how you've ruined my club Roland.40
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Only the first six words of this thread title are relevant at the moment.
I reckon other players will enter the frame now.1 -
Are we sure this isn't another company of RDs ?NomadicAddick said:Would really love it if we had owners who actually care about Charlton Atheltic first and foremost, bringing through our academy talent and not using us as a stepping stone for players on the other side of the world.
The use of 'feeder' whatever way round it will be just sounds all too familiar.
If that is their actual website it seems like a bit of a joke.0 -
Pretty sure the Chairman Philip Aitken is competent given his CV. Not sure how much time he would have for the job....0
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I wondered about this - Katrien had previously said that she wanted to encourage new fans to the club, which might happen if the Australian expat market is worked, and Roland still gets regular income.charltonbob said:
Are we sure this isn't another company of RDs ?NomadicAddick said:Would really love it if we had owners who actually care about Charlton Atheltic first and foremost, bringing through our academy talent and not using us as a stepping stone for players on the other side of the world.
The use of 'feeder' whatever way round it will be just sounds all too familiar.
If that is their actual website it seems like a bit of a joke.
When Katrien mentioned west London as a new market, I thought it was the usual deluded nonsense. Maybe she was thinking of Acton and thereabouts?0 -
Apparently the borough of Hammersmith & Fulham is a bit short of professional clubs?Hovi's Biscuit said:
I wondered about this - Katrien had previously said that she wanted to encourage new fans to the club, which might happen if the Australian expat market is worked, and Roland still gets regular income.charltonbob said:
Are we sure this isn't another company of RDs ?NomadicAddick said:Would really love it if we had owners who actually care about Charlton Atheltic first and foremost, bringing through our academy talent and not using us as a stepping stone for players on the other side of the world.
The use of 'feeder' whatever way round it will be just sounds all too familiar.
If that is their actual website it seems like a bit of a joke.
When Katrien mentioned west London as a new market, I thought it was the usual deluded nonsense. Maybe she was thinking of Acton and thereabouts?1 -
I didn't say it was a realistic or well researched idea. Form suggests it wouldn't be!Leuth said:
Apparently the borough of Hammersmith & Fulham is a bit short of professional clubs?Hovi's Biscuit said:
I wondered about this - Katrien had previously said that she wanted to encourage new fans to the club, which might happen if the Australian expat market is worked, and Roland still gets regular income.charltonbob said:
Are we sure this isn't another company of RDs ?NomadicAddick said:Would really love it if we had owners who actually care about Charlton Atheltic first and foremost, bringing through our academy talent and not using us as a stepping stone for players on the other side of the world.
The use of 'feeder' whatever way round it will be just sounds all too familiar.
If that is their actual website it seems like a bit of a joke.
When Katrien mentioned west London as a new market, I thought it was the usual deluded nonsense. Maybe she was thinking of Acton and thereabouts?
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They recently got a court ruling in their favour that's making life trickier for illegal streamers. I heard that Sunday afternoon figures are down by about 20%, so they certainly have to do something. The company appears to be scraping every penny together for the next round of rights though. Redundancies across the company and budget slashes in every department. I think they might be fearing a much bigger fish (most likely Google, but imagine the dominance Netflix would have if they moved into sports streaming).fat man on a moped said:I can see a potential problem with theory of buying the Valley back in say 5 years when (or if) we reach the PL. Unles Sky somehow manage to stop it's customers using 'other' ways of watching their product I can see the amount of money they spend on the rights shrinking thus the PL not being the promised land it is now.
Then again it may make it easier to actually get there...........1 -
Daily Mail = bullshit. Looks like we are stuck with these fuckwits for the foreseeable. But not to worry, they are "planning for a successful 2017-2018 season" . Oh well Div 2 here we come.2
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Probably still get to more than two games in three years though.Alwaysneil said:Pretty sure the Chairman Philip Aitken is competent given his CV. Not sure how much time he would have for the job....
The Mail is crap, agreed, but usually pretty well informed when it comes to Charlton.addick05 said:Daily Mail = bullshit. Looks like we are stuck with these fuckwits for the foreseeable. But not to worry, they are "planning for a successful 2017-2018 season" . Oh well Div 2 here we come.
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