I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
yesterday reminded me what CAFC means to me(i suspect a good few as well) it was meeting up with old faces and having a good day out with old mates brought together by CAFC.Never been about glory has it ?
See thats the thing Roland,Daisey and Burger Boy will never understand its OUR club and no matter how shit RDs ego makes us ,it will always be OURS
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
James, can you confirm that the Oz consortium is now looking at raising investment on the money markets rather that through interested parties like Muir?
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
The reality lies in-between the two.
I don't think anyone could argue with that.
Wanna bet 😉
As long as the bet requires that anyone arguing with that sentence is able properly to understand it.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
They’ve been credible but ultimately shown to be naive, right the way up to Duchatelet on one side and the Aussies on the other. However the EFL say they received a sale agreement last May and it’s not believable that they are making that up as part of some conspiracy or that it was drawn up and submitted without intent on both sides.
Remember it’s not just me, Rich Cawley, the Standard and Jim White reporting things - it’s also on the record public statements from the club which have not been fulfilled.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
The reality lies in-between the two.
Correct Henners.
What we also learnt very early is credible sources giving encouragement does not lead to something happening. And ever since the first couple of false dawns they shouldn’t be taking too seriously.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
They’ve been credible but ultimately shown to be naive, right the way up to Duchatelet on one side and the Aussies on the other. However the EFL say they received a sale agreement last May and it’s not believable that they are making that up as part of some conspiracy or that it was drawn up and submitted without intent on both sides.
I don't believe you can be naive and credible.
The sale document just highlights why no one can really know what's going on as RD will always be liable to move the goal posts, I think most people have given the information out in good faith.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
If think you are making the mistake of thinking that because something isnt 100% true is must be 100% false.
The reality lies in-between the two.
There’s only one 100% fact ... we haven’t been sold.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
They’ve been credible but ultimately shown to be naive, right the way up to Duchatelet on one side and the Aussies on the other. However the EFL say they received a sale agreement last May and it’s not believable that they are making that up as part of some conspiracy or that it was drawn up and submitted without intent on both sides.
I don't believe you can be naive and credible.
The sale document just highlights why no one can really know what's going on as RD will always be liable to move the goal posts, I think most people have given the information out in good faith.
The problem is that very few of us are disinterested observers or commentators and that includes White and the SLP and well as you, me, Rick, NLA, the club and Jimmy Seed.
We all want a takeover for the right reasons. We all want to believe that this time it will finally happen. So we try and see the positive in any news while still retaining more or less healthy scepticism. That might be naive but it is human.
We also have to distinguish between a takeover progressing and takeover being completed.
That latter hasn't taken place, yet. The former has but has but just not far enough.
Anybody saying it isn’t happening has turned out to be credible, whereas any idiot like me saying it might be has clearly been proven to be lying 😉
Has anyone said lying? I certainly didn't, I just said not credible.
Wasn't having a dig at you, (although I have been accused of making the whole thing up by some), I'm just trying to get Henners up to 1500. Going well so far!
Page 1499...1500 on the horizon...must mean something!
Yep all it will mean is it's the start of the next horizon...I'm going for page 1777,but hoping we will be sole'd by then...
I'm going for page 1566, why? because we've have had very noteable events on a year ending 66 and here's a sample; 1066 William the 'Corncurer' invaded these Isles, 1666 Great Fire of London and 1966 Champions of the World, I rest my case.
I often wonder if certain individuals working within the club are deliberately being fed false information? I wonder that too about Jim Whites recent revelations. It’s my firm belief that JW acted in all good faith and genuinely gave out info as to what he thought to be a nailed on deal. So before people start digging him out we need to know the background of where that info originated. Was JW’s source being used as a vehicle to give out false info or was his source the originator of misleading info? Who knows.....but until that can be established IMHO there’s no need to diss JW, who as a sports reporter is looking for a story but also has our best interests at heart as an added bonus/interest. I’m certain he felt a bit of a ass over his mistaken broadcasts, no one likes to look a fool in front of millions of listeners. I suppose one could say he sounded off before it was verified, but I dare say he won’t be making the same mistake again about unconfirmed rumours, especially when it come to that lying toad Duchatalet .....which takes me back to the first sentence of my post.
Agree but Airman was able to shed light on Jim Whites sources and I think verify independently.
JW’s source is highly credible and not from Charlton. At the same time De Turck was telling people it was about to happen, Bowyer had told the Evening Standard there was movement and the fact a buyer was at the TG was verified as was JW’s conference call information.
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
Has there ever been a single credible source throughout this entire fiasco?
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
They’ve been credible but ultimately shown to be naive, right the way up to Duchatelet on one side and the Aussies on the other. However the EFL say they received a sale agreement last May and it’s not believable that they are making that up as part of some conspiracy or that it was drawn up and submitted without intent on both sides.
I don't believe you can be naive and credible.
The sale document just highlights why no one can really know what's going on as RD will always be liable to move the goal posts, I think most people have given the information out in good faith.
Credibility is based on position. If you are the seller or the buyer then unless proven otherwise by experience you are going to be credible to a journalist. So are the lawyers, intermediaries, would-be buyers and other affected parties who have reason to be informed.
Nevertheless people in all those roles have been wrong about the situation at various stages and since it’s not conceivable they are all part of a conspiracy that makes them naive, in my opinion.
People who work at the club, know people who work at the club or have random third party connections I wouldn’t rely on as primary sources for this story, even though they might be right in some cases.
James, can you confirm that the Oz consortium is now looking at raising investment on the money markets rather that through interested parties like Muir?
Anything is possible, and hasn't that been reported before, some time ago. My feeling is that GM has invested heavily in this process (and I assume he wouldn't if he'd know how ludicrously drawn out it would be), and needs it to happen.
I don't think anybody comes out of this particularly well, although the truth will only be known after the sale is concluded. And even that is certain because of confidentiality clauses that RD will have insisted on.
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JW was being told by the broker of the deal (Keith Harris is my guess) that it was as good as done and only days away.
And I think all of them genuinely believed what they said.
Their mistake was to confuse almost done with actually done.
There was, IMHO, real interest, real talks and a real possibility (maybe there still is) of a deal being done.
But it ain't done and it won't be until it is 100% signed, sealed and delivered and in the OS.
See thats the thing Roland,Daisey and Burger Boy will never understand its OUR club and no matter how shit RDs ego makes us ,it will always be OURS
It’s not unreasonable if both parties and intermediaries are saying the same thing to think that it is true and report it. However, those who have been involved all along are more cautious because of what has happened before.
I think JW was unwise to go in as hard as he did with the 72 hours stuff but I’m absolutely clear that he believed what he reported and that he had good grounds to do so. Unfortunately, at this point neither the buyer nor the seller is a credible source.
One giant game of smoke and mirrors.
The reality lies in-between the two.
Edit: Attempt at humour, hence the winky thingy.
Just had a text from GM saying ‘good result yesterday’ btw.
Will that help?
Remember it’s not just me, Rich Cawley, the Standard and Jim White reporting things - it’s also on the record public statements from the club which have not been fulfilled.
What we also learnt very early is credible sources giving encouragement does not lead to something happening. And ever since the first couple of false dawns they shouldn’t be taking too seriously.
The sale document just highlights why no one can really know what's going on as RD will always be liable to move the goal posts, I think most people have given the information out in good faith.
We all want a takeover for the right reasons. We all want to believe that this time it will finally happen. So we try and see the positive in any news while still retaining more or less healthy scepticism. That might be naive but it is human.
We also have to distinguish between a takeover progressing and takeover being completed.
That latter hasn't taken place, yet. The former has but has but just not far enough.
Nevertheless people in all those roles have been wrong about the situation at various stages and since it’s not conceivable they are all part of a conspiracy that makes them naive, in my opinion.
People who work at the club, know people who work at the club or have random third party connections I wouldn’t rely on as primary sources for this story, even though they might be right in some cases.
My feeling is that GM has invested heavily in this process (and I assume he wouldn't if he'd know how ludicrously drawn out it would be), and needs it to happen.
I don't think anybody comes out of this particularly well, although the truth will only be known after the sale is concluded. And even that is certain because of confidentiality clauses that RD will have insisted on.