Of course RD was going to sell him. However it's not the sale that's hard to take, It's because Grant almost certainly won't be adequately replaced. Surely it would only be a small gamble to give LB some of the fee to get 1 or 2 quality replacements to get us into the Championship. Shrewd bussiness man, or stubborn old fool?
Won't the operating costs and losses be greater in The Championship? And he wouldn't provide a squad that would be able to compete.
This is very much true. If we were to go up this season, we would come back down instantly if RD continues to own us.
Not talking about RD owning us in Championship. Just getting us there. He will get a better price on his investement. When there, hopefully the right owners will push the club forwards
The Grant sale is a massive sign (to me anyway) that the takeover is still far away
We're in the best position in years to get promotion, with a good team. Roland decides to sell one of the reasons we're up there. Classic Roland.
I'm still #TeamWIOTOS but I don't see it happening until the summer at the earliest.
Oh well
Decides to sell? What do you expect him to do....quadruple Karlan's salary? Or watch him walk away on a free at the end of the season? Really it's a no brainer for our Belgian hero.
Again. He cannot walk away on a free.
I miss the days when Katrien used to roll out the reasoning of how we we we're respecting the players wishes for a move, as she would remind us, we should be happy, we saw a Premier league player of the future. Stay humble
Larry van Rental: Mr Roland sir, if you want a realistic chance of getting 40 million it would be best to keep all the top players including Mr Grant, Mr Aribo, Mr Taylor, and Mr Bauer to the end of the season when a Championship team in a prime London location may be worth 35 to 40 million with a bit of luck.
Roland Duchatelet: that's a good idea.
Larry Van Rentals: oh by the way, Huddersfield offered 1.5 million plus add ons, for Mr Grant, shall I tell them to do one.
Roland Duchatelet: sell sell sell.
Some names have been changed to protect the innocent.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
I think they were happy to buy a League One club last year. So what’s changed? Is it finding investors who share their optimism? Have no idea if I’m honest.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
In any case that could easily be overcome by having different prices or a price dependent on promotion ie £20m now plus £10m if we go up.
And it's not just one consortuim that seem to have cold feet, it is all of them. No one can close a deal but none of that is Roland's fault, only the buyers. Sorry, just doesn't add up to me. The buyers may well be at fault but so is the seller.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
I’m feeling pretty negative about this sale happening any time soon. We need RD to lose an enormous amount of money in a very short space of time so that he actually needs to sell the club.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Can’t understand the logic here. Charlton Athletic are a league one club. The Aussie Consortium knew that when they started their courtship and if they are / were wavering because of last years playoff failure and the fear of a repeat this year then I suggest they start looking at Championship clubs to buy and not a league one club.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Can’t understand the logic here. Charlton Athletic are a league one club. The Aussie Consortium knew that when they started their courtship and if they are / were wavering because of last years playoff failure and the fear of a repeat this year then I suggest they start looking at Championship clubs to buy and not a league one club.
They weren’t worried about not getting promotion last year, way before the playoffs.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
I've seen nothing to suggest anything of the sort has happened, in the same way I've seen no proof (which you said you have) about potential buyers being jerked around with super inflated asking prices.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
I've seen nothing to suggest anything of the sort has happened, in the same way I've seen no proof (which you said you have) about potential buyers being jerked around with super inflated asking prices.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
Has it fallen through?
I think it is stuck at the same blockage as it always has been - the price.
They are now and have been previously numerous potential buyers. IMHO it is more likely that the problem is with the seller than that every single buyer doesn't have the money.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
I've seen nothing to suggest anything of the sort has happened, in the same way I've seen no proof (which you said you have) about potential buyers being jerked around with super inflated asking prices.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
You’ve seen no evidence of anything, including anything the club has said, except perhaps the Aussies sitting in the directors box, so stating you don’t believe this or that on that basis is selective.
I am aware from three different sources that the would-be buyers discussed, both with Bowyer and others, details of the club’s January transfer activity.
A meeting was cancelled in December because De Turck advised on the day that it was now pointless unless the new interested party was willing to pay more than £70m because they had that deal.
Of course you can choose to believe or disbelieve that as you wish, but I am satisfied those things are true.
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
I've seen nothing to suggest anything of the sort has happened, in the same way I've seen no proof (which you said you have) about potential buyers being jerked around with super inflated asking prices.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
Has it fallen through?
I think it is stuck at the same blockage as it always has been - the price.
They are now and have been previously numerous potential buyers. IMHO it is more likely that the problem is with the seller than that every single buyer doesn't have the money.
Surely the price has not been kept a secret if it was such a huge blockage, why would people get involved in the first place?
My conclusion is simply that our potential buyers whether they be UK, Aussie or AN Other aren’t prepared to do the deal unless we are promoted and don’t fancy the gamble of funding a League 1 club. Even if RD improves the deal /price maybe our suitors just don’t like the odds of securing promotion.
Maybe but if that is the case why were LDT and Jim White so confident that a deal was close this month?
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Maybe some of the investors (if it’s a consortium) still need persuading and promotion to the championship is what they need to believe is realistic. Reaching the play offs last year but not progressing may have caused some to waver and some may have cold feet now even if the financial package is broadly agreed.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
Still doesn't explain why the deal was thought to be so close in January and we were 4th or 5th. No certainty on promotion there.
I'm still convinced it was BS to try and hustle along other bidders, I've not seen anything to persuade me otherwise.
There are things which happened behind the scenes - such as detailed involvement in player recruitment - that would have no bearing on that.
I've seen nothing to suggest anything of the sort has happened, in the same way I've seen no proof (which you said you have) about potential buyers being jerked around with super inflated asking prices.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
You’ve seen no evidence of anything, including anything the club has said, except perhaps the Aussies sitting in the directors box, so stating you don’t believe this or that on that basis is selective.
I am aware from three different sources that the would-be buyers discussed, both with Bowyer and others, details of the club’s January transfer activity.
A meeting was cancelled in December because De Turck advised on the day that it was now pointless unless the new interested party was willing to pay more than £70m because they had that deal.
Of course you can choose to believe or disbelieve that as you wish, but I am satisfied those things are true.
Your sources have been wrong before though, haven't they?
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* edit, sorry i meant 'SOILED'
Roland Duchatelet: that's a good idea.
Larry Van Rentals: oh by the way, Huddersfield offered 1.5 million plus add ons, for Mr Grant, shall I tell them to do one.
Roland Duchatelet: sell sell sell.
Some names have been changed to protect the innocent.
Have no idea if I’m honest.
Nothing makes sense because the owner is dishonest and irrational.
As ever he pushes all blame onto others and never accepts that it might be his price, his conditions and his mismanagement that have created this impasse.
In any case, running a promotion campaign in the championship will be a lot more expensive than in league 1.
Agree a promotion push is more expensive in the Championship but the likelihood of operating losses is greater in League 1 and an overall less attractive prospect if investors are taking a punt.
In any case that could easily be overcome by having different prices or a price dependent on promotion ie £20m now plus £10m if we go up.
And it's not just one consortuim that seem to have cold feet, it is all of them. No one can close a deal but none of that is Roland's fault, only the buyers. Sorry, just doesn't add up to me. The buyers may well be at fault but so is the seller.
So it’s not that folks.
If what you say is true, why did the deal, once again, fall through?
I think it is stuck at the same blockage as it always has been - the price.
They are now and have been previously numerous potential buyers. IMHO it is more likely that the problem is with the seller than that every single buyer doesn't have the money.
I am aware from three different sources that the would-be buyers discussed, both with Bowyer and others, details of the club’s January transfer activity.
A meeting was cancelled in December because De Turck advised on the day that it was now pointless unless the new interested party was willing to pay more than £70m because they had that deal.
Of course you can choose to believe or disbelieve that as you wish, but I am satisfied those things are true.