For the first time it can be revealed that @NapaAddick has been secretly advising Roland Duchatelet. "Yes i have been on a zero pay, 100% bonus retainer with him since early 2018. He was confident in my valuation methodology, and he should be confident because that is what the club is worth." @NapaAddick went on to say that initially Duchatelet had trouble understanding the logic of the methodology "but once i described it in terms of a house, it all fell into place for him."
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
He can simply deny anything we put to him unless we have evidence
Exactly this ffs
I ain’t having That at all
70 mil prove it or retract it
Never been said before today when yet again the wheels are falling off of supposed take over imminent news
What does that do to this half serious debate
Does seem strange that Airman was saying a deal was close but at the same time he was presumably sitting on a notion that the price had been seriously jacked up to nonsense proportions back in early/mid December.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, there deal is for how much and other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
That simply can't be possible. Personally, I think the club is probably worth about £10m being honest and that is a generous estimate. It is too big for a division that it is struggling to get out of. It is going to cost a lot of money to fix.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to an interested party, which abruptly ended their interest.
Will you share details of this with the Fans forum?
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to an interested party, which abruptly ended their interest.
So to confirm he quoted them a silly price just to get rid of them. However, the Aussie/Americans are more likely to be paying £30M or less ?
Duchatelet has to accept he has devalued the club. Whether that was through poor stewardship or bad luck, it doesn't matter - we have our views on that - but whatever, the club is significantly weaker and smaller than when he bought it.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest.
Is that how businesses this size are sold then?
I thought they went up for a price and people came in to make offers. A bit like buying a......... bungalow.
This goes against what RD said to JW in his interview aired yesterday when JW asked him 'why dont you just sell?' However, his ability to backtrack is now becoming legendary.
However, in the times i've spoken to RD, i've found him to be a) straight forward and b) supposedly honest - maybe thats why he is a billionaire and i am potless.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
Presumably the Forest guy that broke the NDA by tweeting a pic?
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was>
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to an interested party, which abruptly ended their interest.
Will you share details of this with the Fans forum?
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
Presumably the Forest guy that broke the NDA by tweeting a pic?
Will someone from the FF finally hold LVT to account tomorrow. Fuck NDA's. As FANS we are entitled to know.....
1) what price does RD want. 2) has anyone agreed to this price (don't need names if he really won't say) 3) has he turned down another bidder buy inflating the price.
Then tell the press thus nonsense- especially JW - and the EFL.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
I see you've edited this now. So he was in effect stopping a gazumping from occuring. Which, ironically is entirely commendable when buying a house.
If that is the price, this rumour is definitely fake. Maybe he has lowered it - but no way anybody is going to pay even half that for us! It feels like we might be being played by a mad man.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
I see you've edited this now. So he was in effect stopping a gazumping from occuring. Which, ironically is entirely commendable when buying a house.
Not if the current party turns out still not to have the money.
Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here: Alisher Usmanov. As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period. I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?
Over £70m.
Airman please clarify, what you are suggesting. The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ? Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
De Turck quoted over £70m to a credible interested party, which abruptly ended their interest. I think this was in the context that they were already close to a deal with the current party, whether that turns out to be true or not.
I see you've edited this now. So he was in effect stopping a gazumping from occuring. Which, ironically is entirely commendable when buying a house.
Not if the current party turns out still not to have the money.
I wouldn't know. But might I suggest that it has been mentioned on numerous occasions, by yourself included that the Aussies have spent a lot of money just getting this far. Maybe Duchatelet was respectfully letting them get a deal over the line.
He does seem very keen to hand the keys over to the Australian party. Which is scary in itself.
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The Aussies/Americans are discussing a £70M deal ?
Alternatively, how much is their deal for and you are saying other recent enquirers have been quoted £70M to deter them ?
What gives?
However, the Aussie/Americans are more likely to be paying £30M or less ?
I thought they went up for a price and people came in to make offers. A bit like buying a......... bungalow.
However, his ability to backtrack is now becoming legendary.
However, in the times i've spoken to RD, i've found him to be a) straight forward and b) supposedly honest - maybe thats why he is a billionaire and i am potless.
Already done.
1) what price does RD want.
2) has anyone agreed to this price (don't need names if he really won't say)
3) has he turned down another bidder buy inflating the price.
Then tell the press thus nonsense- especially JW - and the EFL.
Which, ironically is entirely commendable when buying a house.
Be very careful as a comment like that was on my charge in court over small bollox
FOR CLARITY HE HAS NOT SUGGESTED A PRICE THAT THE AUSSIES/AMERICANS MAY BE PAYING.
HE HAS SIMPLY SUGGESTED THAT A RECENT INTERESTED ENQUIRER WERE QUOTED £70M (PRESUMABLY TO GET RID).
Good god CE that’s loud
But might I suggest that it has been mentioned on numerous occasions, by yourself included that the Aussies have spent a lot of money just getting this far.
Maybe Duchatelet was respectfully letting them get a deal over the line.
He does seem very keen to hand the keys over to the Australian party. Which is scary in itself.