I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
If the rumours of Americans potentially looking to purchase the Valley and training facilities are true then I assume they would have to pay off the existing Director loans in order to achieve this?
Can't see this being part of the deal to be honest.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
It will happen in the next two weeks, I seem to have heard that before somewhere
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
It will happen in the next two weeks, I seem to have heard that before somewhere
Difference being I said it will be resolved. That can be either positive or negative
So rewinding a bit. It was stated that the new owners were introduced to staff between Xmas and new year, who made introductions and to who and what has actually changed since?. Also I'm sure I remember someone saying there were no issues regarding the funding for the deal, so what the fuck changed since then or was all this bullshit??
Thats nothing, some Aussie bloke turned up at the Valley last season, said he was the new owner and got a free scarf from the club shop....we've not seen him since, bloody chancer.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
I'm not sure I have much to contribute to this thread, as I I know little more than anyone else, but what I think I know is:
Muir *may* still be involved despite his comment. I was told he was, on 24th Oct. GM contacted me yesterday to say he'd text me if the deal was completed, which obviously it wasn't. (Of course he might not be involved at all, and just winding me up). As far as I know they are still intending to fund this magical 5 year "plan". That may be a reason for the delays, or maybe not.
I don't know anything about the Americans, but quite like @bobmunro 's hypothesis. However, it does seem to point to a lack of funding if they've had to bring Americans in to fund the purchase of The Valley (not sure where that info came from, but I don't know anything to suggest that isn't the case). I can understand why that would ring alarm bells to many here.
IF it's the case that these talks lead to the Aussie/Yanks buying the club, then I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, and see how it goes. But if it looks like they're struggling to make the investment that the club requires to move it forward then I'll be the first to man the barricades.
Apologies to those of you who were more skeptical (less naive?) than me, if I went over the top defending the Aussies based on very little. Olive branch extended.
Hopefully when it's all over we can get back to just enjoying the football again.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
I think the meet and greet at the training ground on a Sunday as championed by Airman may have been with 'POTENTIAL new owners'. Not 'THE new owners.' Chinese whispers play a f****** huge part in a lot that goes on here.
What happened is that the group was described to those who happened to be there when they went round. Whether the original language or the retelling of it is imprecise probably isn’t meaningful.
Good to see confirmation from JW of the American angle.
Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son. By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have. The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me? If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
Over to you, Lieven...
The most logical reason why RD has stuck with The Aussies as his preferred choice (and possibly turned away others), must be the price. The Aussies must have offered the most money.
If someone offered me a few million pounds extra, I'm pretty sure I'd wait if I thought they could raise the funds.
The problem (not the only problem) has always been raising the funds that they have agreed to pay. Whether or not at any point, they did have (thought they did have) the funds.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?
Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son. By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have. The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me? If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.
He's not on our side at all. He's infatuated with Roland.
Don't believe this is going to happen and I think it's for the same reason it hasn't so far - the money Roland wants is way more than we as a club are worth.
Roland is stubborn and not prepared to take a hit on his pride even if it ends up costing him way more. I think his heirs will sell us, God knows where we will be by then but it won't be higher than we are now.
Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son. By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have. The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me? If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.
Why make energy out of going on national radio and misleading a set of supporters that have already been through the mill multiple times. Just sit tight and see if what you have heard progresses, or if you have to be number one journo, then at least tread carefully with your information. It wasn't long ago that Roland had Jim dancing to his tune. If you act like a bellend, don't be surprise if people call you a bellend. So no, i don't think it is OTT 'old son'.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
Over to you, Lieven...
A deal will never get done until Roland gives up on these Aussies who have yet to put a deal together for over a year. His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding. If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done. I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay. My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
Over to you, Lieven...
Booooom the correct answer right there @Davidsmith welcome back into the game
They ain’t got the money still fucking 15months later move the hell on and let someone else have a go
There are others there waiting for this to fall over hence why I believe something can happen and will happen we are just no where near done and it’s due to the continued hanging around of the Aussie group
I don’t blame jim white I feel for him to be honest he got fed dog shit info some rehashed nonsense and wasn’t sceptical enough when it was delivered to him
The training ground info was a Chinese whispers it was obvious let’s be honest why would someone be introduced as the new owners before an official announcement
It was 100% potential new owners and the potential but has been missed out
At the next fans forum people should give his minion a harder time, not necessarily aggressive or anything but make him not want to make up rubbish again in a few months.
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?
I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
Over to you, Lieven...
A deal will never get done until Roland gives up on these Aussies who have yet to put a deal together for over a year. His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding. If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done. I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay. My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.
Said this all along. The sooner the Aussies f*** off the better
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Can't see this being part of the deal to be honest.
Muir *may* still be involved despite his comment. I was told he was, on 24th Oct.
GM contacted me yesterday to say he'd text me if the deal was completed, which obviously it wasn't. (Of course he might not be involved at all, and just winding me up).
As far as I know they are still intending to fund this magical 5 year "plan". That may be a reason for the delays, or maybe not.
I don't know anything about the Americans, but quite like @bobmunro 's hypothesis. However, it does seem to point to a lack of funding if they've had to bring Americans in to fund the purchase of The Valley (not sure where that info came from, but I don't know anything to suggest that isn't the case). I can understand why that would ring alarm bells to many here.
IF it's the case that these talks lead to the Aussie/Yanks buying the club, then I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, and see how it goes. But if it looks like they're struggling to make the investment that the club requires to move it forward then I'll be the first to man the barricades.
Apologies to those of you who were more skeptical (less naive?) than me, if I went over the top defending the Aussies based on very little. Olive branch extended.
Hopefully when it's all over we can get back to just enjoying the football again.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
Good to see confirmation from JW of the American angle.
By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have.
The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me?
If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.
The Aussies must have offered the most money.
If someone offered me a few million pounds extra, I'm pretty sure I'd wait if I thought they could raise the funds.
The problem (not the only problem) has always been raising the funds that they have agreed to pay.
Whether or not at any point, they did have (thought they did have) the funds.
Roland is stubborn and not prepared to take a hit on his pride even if it ends up costing him way more. I think his heirs will sell us, God knows where we will be by then but it won't be higher than we are now.
His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding.
If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done.
I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay.
My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.
JW will be standing in for him.
They ain’t got the money still fucking 15months later move the hell on and let someone else have a go
There are others there waiting for this to fall over hence why I believe something can happen and will happen we are just no where near done and it’s due to the continued hanging around of the Aussie group
I don’t blame jim white I feel for him to be honest he got fed dog shit info some rehashed nonsense and wasn’t sceptical enough when it was delivered to him
The training ground info was a Chinese whispers it was obvious let’s be honest why would someone be introduced as the new owners before an official announcement
It was 100% potential new owners and the potential but has been missed out
Long way to go in this
Good old Kevin!
The sooner the Aussies f*** off the better