Sounds like a break up on the X Factor. 'Sorry, you're gonna have to drop Brucey - he's good on the barbie but that ain't gonna pay Igor's medical expenses' 'You may have to be a bit more Britpop' - who knows??? I don't.
Im coming to the conclusion that the aussies are trying to replace an investor and not having much luck,they've had enough time for negotiations months in fact,if RD was messing the Aussies about still they would of pulled the plug by now surely,and if it wasnt the Aussies fault im sure there would be leaks as to what the hold up is.
Round and round we go.
The statement by the club said they were satisfied that the funds were in place.
Tried hard but I fail to see what the club would get out of lying about that.
I can't imagine it's very hard to fool Roland though
Im coming to the conclusion that the aussies are trying to replace an investor and not having much luck,they've had enough time for negotiations months in fact,if RD was messing the Aussies about still they would of pulled the plug by now surely,and if it wasnt the Aussies fault im sure there would be leaks as to what the hold up is.
Round and round we go.
The statement by the club said they were satisfied that the funds were in place.
Tried hard but I fail to see what the club would get out of lying about that.
I can't imagine it's very hard to fool Roland though
You only need a PlayStation, a funny wig and a cardigan......Hold on, wait....
Sounds like a break up on the X Factor. 'Sorry, you're gonna have to drop Brucey - he's good on the barbie but that ain't gonna pay Igor's medical expenses' 'You may have to be a bit more Britpop' - who knows??? I don't.
I thought you knew all?
I could see why you would think that but even I don't know everything
If it helps, the Aussies tried to reduce the offer from the agreed price about a month ago - there were also a few terms still to be agreed. That was the case a month ago and I've heard nothing different since. If anything significant had happened since, I'm sure I would know about it. That is the position in a nutshell - I don't know what the figures are or what the terms are but I know rd wants shot and everyone wants the takeover to happen.
"First rumours appeared that following a first face to face meeting between Gerard Murphy and Roland "why don't you just feck off?" Duchatelet, that had not gone well (Roland furious and swearing when the Aussies tried to low ball him on the price at the last minute) that the deal was "as good as over" but this was refuted by those close to the antipodean camp."
Thank you brown nose and I knew they had reduced the price before the meeting so not news to me but you miss the point - I have heard nothing of any significance since so the last month's meanderings on here are just that. just trying to help, as always.
So Roland came over in person to seal the deal and then they bombed him a lower price?
Well this all sounds absolutely terrible (the news about Aussie deal dead and/or two weeks to make a serious decision as being reported elsewhere). If, and I have no idea, it all falls through, we will be left with RD in charge for the foreseeable!! There is no way he will invest in the squad or the ground, he will continue to cut costs and the club will continue, perhaps at an enhanced speed, downwards. Talk of a UK consortium I believe is 'fake' news, and so where will this leave us? Lets all hope and pray that the contact that @JamesSeed has got is telling it as it is and I have no reason to believe he is not, in fact I believe the opposite, and the Aussies win the day!! If they don't then I fear for not just for this season but for the coming seasons beyond that. RD has to go and go NOW!!!
How many years plan does the “British” consortium have ?
The beauty of an imaginary consortium is that they can have whatever plan you want. I think they've got a plan for us to win the Champions' League in 2022.
How many years plan does the “British” consortium have ?
The beauty of an imaginary consortium is that they can have whatever plan you want. I think they've got a plan for us to win the Champions' League in 2022.
If, as I suspect, there is no British consortium & its all the work of RM muddying the waters & wanting to keep a place at the top table then when the dust settles he needs to be run out of town. Lying scheming shitbag.
Fingers still crossed for Redhenry's lot, to come to our rescue at the 11th hour !!!
I wouldn't mind. So long as someone buys the club, I'm happy. Even though it means I don't get the padded seat in the directors' box that is of course my birthright :-(
Well this all sounds absolutely terrible (the news about Aussie deal dead and/or two weeks to make a serious decision as being reported elsewhere). If, and I have no idea, it all falls through, we will be left with RD in charge for the foreseeable!! There is no way he will invest in the squad or the ground, he will continue to cut costs and the club will continue, perhaps at an enhanced speed, downwards. Talk of a UK consortium I believe is 'fake' news, and so where will this leave us? Lets all hope and pray that the contact that @JamesSeed has got is telling it as it is and I have no reason to believe he is not, in fact I believe the opposite, and the Aussies win the day!! If they don't then I fear for not just for this season but for the coming seasons beyond that. RD has to go and go NOW!!!
In your nightmare scenario there can be no 'coming seasons'. If that malignant twunt keeps hold into 2019, CAFC will be history before this season's over.
Which is slightly depressing if you hoped it would happen before the start of the season, but positive if you thought it wouldn’t happen this season at all, or they were pulling out.
I’m sure he’d want to apologise for not being able to share any proper details, but if you start breaking NDAs you immediately lose all business credibility.
[*turns off phone, dives for cover*]
PS 16/1 is poor value.
Here's a thought. JS is quoting what he's been told. Fine. But, ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’ could mean, at the end of the two weeks GM walking away with his millions intact, because the Aussies have walked away. He didn't tell JS for WHO it would all be worthwhile...
Which is slightly depressing if you hoped it would happen before the start of the season, but positive if you thought it wouldn’t happen this season at all, or they were pulling out.
I’m sure he’d want to apologise for not being able to share any proper details, but if you start breaking NDAs you immediately lose all business credibility.
[*turns off phone, dives for cover*]
PS 16/1 is poor value.
Here's a thought. JS is quoting what he's been told. Fine. But, ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’ could mean, at the end of the two weeks GM walking away with his millions intact, because the Aussies have walked away. He didn't tell JS for WHO it would all be worthwhile...
1. GM is a decent bloke, and he’s definitely not a crook.
2. They’re not in it in order to sell us down the river in some sort of land/property scam involving a move from The Valley.
3.At least two of the consortium have previous involvement in sport, and are sports fans.
4. I believe (and this is fingers crossed time) that they’ll offer medium to long term financial stability, because the consortium model should spread the risk, and bypasses the risk nof having a single owner who might lose interest or go bust.
5. They seem to have ambition, backed by a five year plan. Of course the proof will be in the pudding.
6. They are at least aware that Charlton fans have earned the right to be taken seriously.
Of course there are negatives too.
It’s possible that they’ve had problems replacing a wealthy backer as some have speculated, and it’s possible that they’ve made mistakes along the way with the paperwork (purely speculation because I have no knowledge of this). It’s possibe we’ll end up with two or three Aussie players, although they’ve denied that.
I understand people’s scepticism. As people have said, they’ve proved nothing yet. But I’m prepared to give them a chance. If they actually buy the club of course.
A well argued and balanced argument, but no fish puns though
I would caution that 5 year plans aren't necessarily a sign of ambition, as
a) it depends on what the plan actually covers, a plan that sees us as a mid table Championship team after 5 years would be an improvement on our current state, but hardly very inspiring b) are the plans realistic, and proportional to the level of funding they are investing? It's easy to talk big, but in a world where there are some very rich owners splashing the cash to get in the PL, relying on Aussie sports know how and scouting as a secret weapon won't cut it.
Plan for Prem not Championship. But totally agree it’s not going to be easy in that there are plenty of others with the same idea.
I don’t think they’re only relying on Aussie sports know how though. *If* there have been problems replacing investors it’s probably because the level of required investment is high. I hope they have a plan of action for what to do if they’re outgunned financially in the Championship.
Which, of course, they will be. Have you seen the size of parachute payments now?
1. GM is a decent bloke, and he’s definitely not a crook.
2. They’re not in it in order to sell us down the river in some sort of land/property scam involving a move from The Valley.
3.At least two of the consortium have previous involvement in sport, and are sports fans.
4. I believe (and this is fingers crossed time) that they’ll offer medium to long term financial stability, because the consortium model should spread the risk, and bypasses the risk nof having a single owner who might lose interest or go bust.
5. They seem to have ambition, backed by a five year plan. Of course the proof will be in the pudding.
6. They are at least aware that Charlton fans have earned the right to be taken seriously.
Of course there are negatives too.
It’s possible that they’ve had problems replacing a wealthy backer as some have speculated, and it’s possible that they’ve made mistakes along the way with the paperwork (purely speculation because I have no knowledge of this). It’s possibe we’ll end up with two or three Aussie players, although they’ve denied that.
I understand people’s scepticism. As people have said, they’ve proved nothing yet. But I’m prepared to give them a chance. If they actually buy the club of course.
A well argued and balanced argument, but no fish puns though
I would caution that 5 year plans aren't necessarily a sign of ambition, as
a) it depends on what the plan actually covers, a plan that sees us as a mid table Championship team after 5 years would be an improvement on our current state, but hardly very inspiring b) are the plans realistic, and proportional to the level of funding they are investing? It's easy to talk big, but in a world where there are some very rich owners splashing the cash to get in the PL, relying on Aussie sports know how and scouting as a secret weapon won't cut it.
Plan for Prem not Championship. But totally agree it’s not going to be easy in that there are plenty of others with the same idea.
I don’t think they’re only relying on Aussie sports know how though. *If* there have been problems replacing investors it’s probably because the level of required investment is high. I hope they have a plan of action for what to do if they’re outgunned financially in the Championship.
Which, of course, they will be. Have you seen the size of parachute payments now?
Very true. They're ridiculous. The Premier League looks after it's own, and doesn't give 4x for anyone else.
Have a hospital appointment on 11/8 @2.30 so won't be at the first home game.
Still haven't renewed my season ticket, have no interest in doing so.
As I said in my last post on this thread it is all so fucking boring. My interest in waning at an alarming rate. Can honestly foresee a situation where Norwich on Saturday is the only game I go to this season. What worries me more is that could well be the case whether there is a take over or not.
I think we will have to wait until Mike Ashley sells up
You people are bonkers if you want Ashley. He demands the club BREAK EVEN, which is even worse that what Roland demands. Ashley is ranked as a worse owner than RD is in every article that attempts to rank bad owners. He got his club relegated twice. Much like RD recently, he only allows his manager to spend money in the transfer market after he first sells someone off the team. For three straight windows he has lied to his manager about allowing him to spend money in the transfer window. And he named the stadium after his pet company and owns it primarily as a marketing arm for his company. We would be named Sports Direct Valley, with his banners everywhere and none of that money would be spent on players. He never attends matches. He uses a lackey to communicate with fans and as the front for money decisions (sound familiar?) He would be a disaster.
I think we will have to wait until Mike Ashley sells up
You people are bonkers if you want Ashley. He demands the club BREAK EVEN, which is even worse that what Roland demands. Ashley is ranked as a worse owner than RD is in every article that attempts to rank bad owners. He got his club relegated twice. Much like RD recently, he only allows his manager to spend money in the transfer market after he first sells someone off the team. For three straight windows he has lied to his manager about allowing him to spend money in the transfer window. And he named the stadium after his pet company and owns it primarily as a marketing arm for his company. We would be named Sports Direct Valley, with his banners verywhere and none of that money would be spent on players. He never attends matches. He would be a disaster.
Must be terrible getting relegated and then immediately promoted again because of the massive amount of money spent on players. I didn't see Roland stumping up Matt Richie money when we were in the champ
1. GM is a decent bloke, and he’s definitely not a crook.
2. They’re not in it in order to sell us down the river in some sort of land/property scam involving a move from The Valley.
3.At least two of the consortium have previous involvement in sport, and are sports fans.
4. I believe (and this is fingers crossed time) that they’ll offer medium to long term financial stability, because the consortium model should spread the risk, and bypasses the risk nof having a single owner who might lose interest or go bust.
5. They seem to have ambition, backed by a five year plan. Of course the proof will be in the pudding.
6. They are at least aware that Charlton fans have earned the right to be taken seriously.
Of course there are negatives too.
It’s possible that they’ve had problems replacing a wealthy backer as some have speculated, and it’s possible that they’ve made mistakes along the way with the paperwork (purely speculation because I have no knowledge of this). It’s possibe we’ll end up with two or three Aussie players, although they’ve denied that.
I understand people’s scepticism. As people have said, they’ve proved nothing yet. But I’m prepared to give them a chance. If they actually buy the club of course.
A well argued and balanced argument, but no fish puns though
I would caution that 5 year plans aren't necessarily a sign of ambition, as
a) it depends on what the plan actually covers, a plan that sees us as a mid table Championship team after 5 years would be an improvement on our current state, but hardly very inspiring b) are the plans realistic, and proportional to the level of funding they are investing? It's easy to talk big, but in a world where there are some very rich owners splashing the cash to get in the PL, relying on Aussie sports know how and scouting as a secret weapon won't cut it.
Plan for Prem not Championship. But totally agree it’s not going to be easy in that there are plenty of others with the same idea.
I don’t think they’re only relying on Aussie sports know how though. *If* there have been problems replacing investors it’s probably because the level of required investment is high. I hope they have a plan of action for what to do if they’re outgunned financially in the Championship.
Which, of course, they will be. Have you seen the size of parachute payments now?
Very true. They're ridiculous. The Premier League looks after it's own, and doesn't give 4x for anyone else.
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Talk of a UK consortium I believe is 'fake' news, and so where will this leave us? Lets all hope and pray that the contact that @JamesSeed has got is telling it as it is and I have no reason to believe he is not, in fact I believe the opposite, and the Aussies win the day!! If they don't then I fear for not just for this season but for the coming seasons beyond that. RD has to go and go NOW!!!
I think they've got a plan for us to win the Champions' League in 2022.
Even though it means I don't get the padded seat in the directors' box that is of course my birthright :-(
I agree the next two weeks will be tough. I have to decide whether I give up altogether.
(What movie was that from?)
Still haven't renewed my season ticket, have no interest in doing so.
As I said in my last post on this thread it is all so fucking boring. My interest in waning at an alarming rate. Can honestly foresee a situation where Norwich on Saturday is the only game I go to this season. What worries me more is that could well be the case whether there is a take over or not.