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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195

    Any idea what The Valley Cafe were charging for a Full English back in 1086?

    Read my earlier post about the destruction of a way of life. They would have been serving a Full Norman.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited July 2018

    agim said:

    From a friend who works closely with the club:

    Delay in takeover caused by one of Andrew Muirs investors not passing fit & proper test due to connections with a former club. Newcastle or Everton apparently.

    Deal is now complete and is awaiting approval from the FA.

    Won't be announced until after Norwich game.

    1 day after the Norwich game or 2 years afterwards?
    Does it really make any difference? It’s a five year plan after all ;-)

    [Sorry, poor joke]
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Time for an update

    Deadline tracker

    Date - Source - Notes
    11 July 2018 - BexleyBoy/Colin - positive news
    13 July 2018 - VOTV - RD deadline to complete the deal

    After 28 July 2018 - agim - deal awaiting FA approval
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Uboat said:

    Any idea what The Valley Cafe were charging for a Full English back in 1086?

    Read my earlier post about the destruction of a way of life. They would have been serving a Full Norman.
    I’d like to think that was not the case......some things are sacred you know.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    JamesSeed said:

    agim said:

    From a friend who works closely with the club:

    Delay in takeover caused by one of Andrew Muirs investors not passing fit & proper test due to connections with a former club. Newcastle or Everton apparently.

    Deal is now complete and is awaiting approval from the FA.

    Won't be announced until after Norwich game.

    1 day after the Norwich game or 2 years afterwards?
    Does it really make any difference? It’s a five year plan after all.
    Of course it matters. And that plan might well go out of the window dependant on circumstances.

    All well and good saying they are in it for the long haul but we are in a pretty shite position now.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    edited July 2018
    If the deal is complete, why wait and waste two weeks of the transfer window, doesn't make any sense, but none of this whole shambolic charade has
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Rothko said:

    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?

    Like others have said.... a day after a week after.....several months after?
    This dubious announcement is just that.....dubious. It sounds like a Colinism to me.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    if they are sending the papers to the FA that could be the problem
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,358

    Rothko said:

    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?

    Like others have said.... a day after a week after.....several months after?
    This dubious announcement is just that.....dubious. It sounds like a Colinism to me.
    This
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    If it's complete and needs approval then it's not really complete is it?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801

    if they are sending the papers to the FA that could be the problem

    No one has the first idea of what's happening, be it pub gossips, mates of mates, or the supposed people in the know who talk to one side or the other.

    We're about to at best waste this season, at worst end up in League 2, getting the deal done, and progressing the club is whats needed.

    It's a mess, and people are just so worn down with the last 4 years, they've given up giving a fuck
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Rothko said:

    If the deal is complete, why wait and waste two weeks of the transfer window, doesn't make any sense, but none of this whole shambolic charade has

    Rothko said:

    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?

    Durrrrrr.

    What colours do Norwich play in ?

    Makes perfect sense to me.

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801

    Rothko said:

    If the deal is complete, why wait and waste two weeks of the transfer window, doesn't make any sense, but none of this whole shambolic charade has

    Rothko said:

    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?

    Durrrrrr.

    What colours do Norwich play in ?

    Makes perfect sense to me.

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  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958

    William the Conquerer was my 26th Great Grandfather.

    Just saying.

    hello Danny Dyer ;-)
    I suspect he was everyone's 26th Great Grandfather - 2 to the power of 28 = 268,435,456 which was more than the population of the world in 1066.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    se9addick said:

    JamesSeed said:

    castrust said:

    50% of 928 respondents said they were likely to buy a season ticket if there was a change of ownership

    https://castrust.org/2018/05/season-ticket-and-attitudes-survey-results/

    Yes I looked up the survey after I posted my question. Very useful.
    If I were the Aussies I might offer a discount for a couple of weeks after any takeover, although would anyone who had paid the higher price want a rebate?
    cafcfan said:

    There are remarkable similarities.

    In 1086, Charlton had 13 villagers and two slaves. Today 13 players, and Bowyer and Jackson.

    The tenant-in-chief was Bishop Odo. Now it's Roland Odd. Bishop Odo of Bayeux never visited either.

    The Lord of the Manor was William, son of Oger. Now it's Tony Ogre.

    Back then Charlton was worth £7. Now it's feck all.

    BTW, it's a bit weird that William, son of Oger held only three properties, Footscray, our Charlton and another Charlton down near Dover.

    opendomesday.org/place/TQ4177/charlton/

    That site is really cool, thanks for sharing (the slaves thing is a bit grim though!).
    Yeah, it's good isn't it? But I think I might have been a bit misleading on the "worth" thing. Not sure but I suspect that's what the gaff would have brought in to the Son of Oger per annum. (I guess that the place itself was worth nothing because William The Bastard could have just taken it back on a whim and granted it to someone else?)
  • Rothko said:

    This whole thing is fucking tiresome, what's the crackpot theory that explains why it'll be done after Norwich and not before?

    Expecting a full house and want everybody to wait until the final whistle...
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    agim said:

    From a friend who works closely with the club:

    Delay in takeover caused by one of Andrew Muirs investors not passing fit & proper test due to connections with a former club. Newcastle or Everton apparently.

    Deal is now complete and is awaiting approval from the FA.

    Won't be announced until after Norwich game.

    Thanks to @CrabApples for putting this on the bite sized thread.

    The delay would square with what has trickled out from two or three people. It's frustrating, it feels like a lot of valuable time potentially lost for something that seems, from the outside looking in, like it would be avoidable.

    Assuming this is correct and everything falls into place bang on the 28th, then they would have one week to do business with lower league teams before the transfer window closes (I think it's the end of the month for loans if I'm not mistaken, don't know about overseas transfers). And again, that's best case scenario.

    All we can do now is hope this time through the EFL goes smoothly, that the Aussies are willing to put some expenditure into the club up front (both in terms of players and in terms of the huge number of "office staff" vacancies). And hope that Gallen and Bowyer have a list of players in the event some money came in.

    A lot of hoping, but we've made it this far on hope.

    Thanks for the info @agim
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    The Norwich game is 28th July?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2018
    THE DEAL IS DONE
    Between Roly and the Aussies at least...
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited July 2018
    sm said:

    William the Conquerer was my 26th Great Grandfather.

    Just saying.

    hello Danny Dyer ;-)
    I suspect he was everyone's 26th Great Grandfather - 2 to the power of 28 = 268,435,456 which was more than the population of the world in 1066.
    That’s not quite how it works but...

    Merde.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    SDAddick said:

    agim said:

    From a friend who works closely with the club:

    Delay in takeover caused by one of Andrew Muirs investors not passing fit & proper test due to connections with a former club. Newcastle or Everton apparently.

    Deal is now complete and is awaiting approval from the FA.

    Won't be announced until after Norwich game.

    Thanks to @CrabApples for putting this on the bite sized thread.

    The delay would square with what has trickled out from two or three people. It's frustrating, it feels like a lot of valuable time potentially lost for something that seems, from the outside looking in, like it would be avoidable.

    Assuming this is correct and everything falls into place bang on the 28th, then they would have one week to do business with lower league teams before the transfer window closes (I think it's the end of the month for loans if I'm not mistaken, don't know about overseas transfers). And again, that's best case scenario.

    All we can do now is hope this time through the EFL goes smoothly, that the Aussies are willing to put some expenditure into the club up front (both in terms of players and in terms of the huge number of "office staff" vacancies). And hope that Gallen and Bowyer have a list of players in the event some money came in.

    A lot of hoping, but we've made it this far on hope.

    Thanks for the info @agim
    Assuming everything else that the EFL have is ok & all they will be looking at is 1 new investor then I'd have hoped that it shouldn't take that long.

    However. how & why someone would say it would be announced after the Norwich game is a bit bizarre...........what say the EFL agreed everything by this weekend, are the Aussies just going to sit there & do nothing for a week ??. I also don't think it really matters now though as if it did happen next Saturday it will be a bit late for the this season.

    I'm not going to believe it as my hopes will only be dashed & I'm going away that day so don't want to ruin my holiday.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,219
    Isn't the bite sized threat supposed to stay stickied for a little bit so people get a chance to spot it/read it?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Curb_It said:

    Isn't the bite sized threat supposed to stay stickied for a little bit so people get a chance to spot it/read it?

    @Crabbles doesn't have that ability.
  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,166
    There is nothing to update though really is there?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2018
    Just a friendly reminder:
    THE DEAL IS DONE
    Between Roly and the Aussies at least...

    We now have a 6 month FA approval waiting time...

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    SDAddick said:

    agim said:

    From a friend who works closely with the club:

    Delay in takeover caused by one of Andrew Muirs investors not passing fit & proper test due to connections with a former club. Newcastle or Everton apparently.

    Deal is now complete and is awaiting approval from the FA.

    Won't be announced until after Norwich game.

    Thanks to @CrabApples for putting this on the bite sized thread.

    The delay would square with what has trickled out from two or three people. It's frustrating, it feels like a lot of valuable time potentially lost for something that seems, from the outside looking in, like it would be avoidable.

    Assuming this is correct and everything falls into place bang on the 28th, then they would have one week to do business with lower league teams before the transfer window closes (I think it's the end of the month for loans if I'm not mistaken, don't know about overseas transfers). And again, that's best case scenario.

    All we can do now is hope this time through the EFL goes smoothly, that the Aussies are willing to put some expenditure into the club up front (both in terms of players and in terms of the huge number of "office staff" vacancies). And hope that Gallen and Bowyer have a list of players in the event some money came in.

    A lot of hoping, but we've made it this far on hope.

    Thanks for the info @agim
    Assuming everything else that the EFL have is ok & all they will be looking at is 1 new investor then I'd have hoped that it shouldn't take that long.

    However. how & why someone would say it would be announced after the Norwich game is a bit bizarre...........what say the EFL agreed everything by this weekend, are the Aussies just going to sit there & do nothing for a week ??. I also don't think it really matters now though as if it did happen next Saturday it will be a bit late for the this season.

    I'm not going to believe it as my hopes will only be dashed & I'm going away that day so don't want to ruin my holiday.
    They say *not before* the Norwich game, which means they think that it will take at least a week from now, if not longer. Assuming this is true, I don't think 1-2 weeks for the FPP process in unreasonable.

    Again, I can't speak to the accuracy of this, but I do think it's reasonable to assume there is a lag between submitting the final (hopefully) paperwork to the EFL and the deal being signed off on by them.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    Dazzler21 said:

    Just a friendly reminder:
    THE DEAL IS DONE
    Between Roly and the Aussies at least...

    We now have a 6 month FA approval waiting time...

    That's why there's a delay - they sent the papers to the wrong bloody people! It's the EFL, not the FA dumbkoffs!
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206
    It’s kinda happening- hurrah!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Pedro45 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Just a friendly reminder:
    THE DEAL IS DONE
    Between Roly and the Aussies at least...

    We now have a 6 month FA approval waiting time...

    That's why there's a delay - they sent the papers to the wrong bloody people! It's the EFL, not the FA dumbkoffs!
    It's okay the EFL have to submit the finalised paperwork for approval to the FA. At least that's my understanding... Which is likely incorrect...
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