So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
What horrors have been uncovered in our financial past I wonder. Let’s hope this takeover happens soon. Should it collapse now it would seem we might be in a very difficult place.
Yes it’s known and I can’t see any way it won’t be revealed. And yes, it would be very difficult if it collapsed now.
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Care to share what you know ???
Made promise not to, but I’m sure it will be revealed. Someone like Airman will pull all the threads together and explain it properly. I don’t think I fully understand it if I’m honest. Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
Being grateful to RD for "saving" the club from almost certain administration is like the story of the guy who fell through a trapdoor and was miraculously "saved" from breaking both his legs by the noose round his neck.
Being grateful to RD for "saving" the club from almost certain administration is like the story of the guy who fell through a trapdoor and was miraculously "saved" from breaking both his legs by the noose round his neck.
But we keep being told that there was nobody else interested in buying us.........
Being grateful to RD for "saving" the club from almost certain administration is like the story of the guy who fell through a trapdoor and was miraculously "saved" from breaking both his legs by the noose round his neck.
But we keep being told that there was nobody else interested in buying us.........
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Care to share what you know ???
Made promise not to, but I’m sure it will be revealed. Someone like Airman will pull all the threads together and explain it properly. I don’t think I fully understand it if I’m honest. Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue who GM is?
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
Maybe not because even the journalist types like Airman would find it difficult to be impartial because having been inside the Charlton tent, he knows where the bodies are burried, but having been caught in the knife throwing may find it difficult to give an unbiased view on the shenanigans.
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Care to share what you know ???
Made promise not to, but I’m sure it will be revealed. Someone like Airman will pull all the threads together and explain it properly. I don’t think I fully understand it if I’m honest. Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue who GM is?
Who is he or is this just code for someone?
GM = Gerald Murphy. Part of the consortium & was at the play off away game.
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Care to share what you know ???
Made promise not to, but I’m sure it will be revealed. Someone like Airman will pull all the threads together and explain it properly. I don’t think I fully understand it if I’m honest. Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue who GM is?
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
Maybe not because even the journalist types like Airman would find it difficult to be impartial because having been inside the Charlton tent, he knows where the bodies are burried, but having been caught in the knife throwing may find it difficult to give an unbiased view on the shenanigans.
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
You couldn't get anybody less shady than the two main Aussie guys. Don't know anyone else involved.
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
Maybe not because even the journalist types like Airman would find it difficult to be impartial because having been inside the Charlton tent, he knows where the bodies are burried, but having been caught in the knife throwing may find it difficult to give an unbiased view on the shenanigans.
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
You couldn't get anybody less shady than the two main Aussie guys. Don't know anyone else involved.
Hence why I said I reserve judgement Jimmy, What have been revealed in the press about Himenez, Cash and my few conversations with Slater where he came across a bit slimy plus Murray going from Hero to zero, katrien the muse of Duchatelet and other characters who are backroom supporters of RD because they are/were on the payroll I suspect and we have more panto villains than the annual Christmas play.
I hope Jimmy your Aussie guys are the Princes who have the shoe that fits ?
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Care to share what you know ???
Made promise not to, but I’m sure it will be revealed. Someone like Airman will pull all the threads together and explain it properly. I don’t think I fully understand it if I’m honest. Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
Am I the only person who hasn't got a clue who GM is?
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
Maybe not because even the journalist types like Airman would find it difficult to be impartial because having been inside the Charlton tent, he knows where the bodies are burried, but having been caught in the knife throwing may find it difficult to give an unbiased view on the shenanigans.
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
Wasn't it Varney who was heavily involved in bringing the Spivs into the club in the first place?
When clubs go into administration, and have their debts written off, if they reach the Premier League then they should repay them, or the PL should take the money of their central payments for redistribution.
It might be too late for some small businesses, but in no other sector can broke businesses like football clubs hit the jackpot like this, a year or two after going broke and writing off their debts
When clubs go into administration, and have their debts written off, if they reach the Premier League then they should repay them, or the PL should take the money of their central payments for redistribution.
It might be too late for some small businesses, but in no other sector can broke businesses like football clubs hit the jackpot like this, a year or two after going broke and writing off their debts
I'm not an accountant but I believe that they are not the same business. The old business closes down and a new business is set up, pays something to the administrator and takes over the assets, including membership of the football league, and starts trading.
In the same way if a pub closes, you and I can take it over and re-open it using the same name, serve the same beer to the same people as before but it is a new business under the law. If we then make the pub a roaring success why should we have to pay off the unpaid bills left by the previous landlord?
I'm not saying it is right and the football league should be a lot more to control debt but businesses closing and then re-opening is not unique to football.
So many of the issues holding up the sale are not RD’s fault as it’s turned out. Had he done DD he would have walked away, and the club would have gone into administration. (Maybe for the better as people are saying)
This takeover may be the best thing that’s happened to the club for many years. So many major problems have been, or are being, sorted out. It’s unbelievable really. For whatever reason the Aussies have stuck with it. You can see why other bidders walked away.
Without new owners the club might struggle to survive right now. RD is cutting every cost to the bone. If the Aussies were to walk now, what do you think he would do? Cut and run I’d say. Fire sale? It wouldn’t be pretty, that’s for sure.
Terrifying that our clubs in this country have been permitted to get into this state over the years. Ugly stuff.
Does this vindicate some of the stuff Murray has been saying over the years I wonder? i. e. has he been made aware of this mess from the cash era historically or is this all coming to the fore for the first time?
Wonder if the mess will ever be truly unravelled and revealed to us.
Maybe not because even the journalist types like Airman would find it difficult to be impartial because having been inside the Charlton tent, he knows where the bodies are burried, but having been caught in the knife throwing may find it difficult to give an unbiased view on the shenanigans.
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
Wasn't it Varney who was heavily involved in bringing the Spivs into the club in the first place?
I don’t think that makes him a shady character, though, does it? That would be someone who was knowingly complicit in dishonest behaviour.
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And yes, it would be very difficult if it collapsed now.
Or maybe GM perhaps. He’ll know all about it having sat through all the meetings.
I generally feel like we are stuck with RD, i haven't been reading the thread recently but with our current squad we will not get promoted
Who is he or is this just code for someone?
The timeline and major players covers the period from Murray selling to Jimenez, Slater and Cash to the quick sale to Duchatelet to the elephants pregnancy of the current impasse.
Other than Peter Varney, their just seems too many shady characters (I reserve judgement on the Aussie guys) involved and the big losers are the fans, you and me that have seen us go from a well run Premier club to a comedy third tier club who could fall even further down the football pyramid if the myriad of technical issues aren't resolved very soon.
An independent transparent review of The stated period would be interesting to know so we could learn and move on but too many people may go mute for that too happen.
What have been revealed in the press about Himenez, Cash and my few conversations with Slater where he came across a bit slimy plus Murray going from Hero to zero, katrien the muse of Duchatelet and other characters who are backroom supporters of RD because they are/were on the payroll I suspect and we have more panto villains than the annual Christmas play.
I hope Jimmy your Aussie guys are the Princes who have the shoe that fits ?
As long as it doesn't have duck tape on it !
"I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member"
It might be too late for some small businesses, but in no other sector can broke businesses like football clubs hit the jackpot like this, a year or two after going broke and writing off their debts
"I have a 5 year plan"
In the same way if a pub closes, you and I can take it over and re-open it using the same name, serve the same beer to the same people as before but it is a new business under the law. If we then make the pub a roaring success why should we have to pay off the unpaid bills left by the previous landlord?
I'm not saying it is right and the football league should be a lot more to control debt but businesses closing and then re-opening is not unique to football.