51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
Has he not heard of the expression "to cut your losses".
51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
Has he not heard of the expression "to cut your losses".
No, and nor "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"
Or
"Tony Jimenez and Kevin Cash are well dodgy Spivs"
51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
Has he not heard of the expression "to cut your losses".
If only, but as Katrien Miere once said..."Mr Duchatelet has a different kind of passion for Charlton".
This is what I can't understand. If the total of money owed the directors is 7 million that is a small amount when you think of the cost of buying the club.
Why not come to an agreement where Roland and the buyers pay half each.
That's 3.5 million each and if that is what is causing the hold up ups fuckin pathetic tbh.
You could always release £3.5million out your pension pot.
Fuck off That would only leave me with £15 million
Ooh, £15mn plus £3.5mn - some £17.47mn over the pension lifetime allowance. HMRC are coming for you.......
This is what I can't understand. If the total of money owed the directors is 7 million that is a small amount when you think of the cost of buying the club.
Why not come to an agreement where Roland and the buyers pay half each.
That's 3.5 million each and if that is what is causing the hold up ups fuckin pathetic tbh.
You could always release £3.5million out your pension pot.
Fuck off That would only leave me with £15 million
Ooh, £15mn plus £3.5mn - some £17.47mn over the pension lifetime allowance. HMRC are coming for you.......
My real name is Gladys and they have no idea where I live.
So deadline for proof of funds set by Roland was yesterday. Deadline for the deal to be done is two weeks time. If you believe Roland won't change his mind again.
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
Has he not heard of the expression "to cut your losses".
If only, but as Katrien Miere once said..."Mr Duchatelet has a different kind of passion for Charlton".
Not heard that one before, that adds to the catalogue.
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
No it wasn't chizzy.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland. Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
No it wasn't chizzy.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland. Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
I took the piece by @Airman Brown stating "We understand that Duchatelet has set a deadline of this Friday [ie 29 June] for the Aussies to prove they have the funds" to mean what I posted.
Have I misunderstood It? Or misinterpreted it by posting "that deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding"?
And the "monumental mountain" refers to the mess he's made of Charlton. And that very much is down to Roland, exclusively.
Good to hear that you should be having beers soon with your contact. Sounds like a binary conversation will take place..!
Just so I'm clear. The Aussies have taken the best part of a YEAR to get the capital together for this. Two major investers have walked/been refused in the past couple of weeks. Worry not. Within DAYS new investors have been found that can cover the missing funds?
Just so I'm clear. The Aussies have taken the best part of a YEAR to get the capital together for this. Two major investers have walked/been refused in the past couple of weeks. Worry not. Within DAYS new investors have been found that can cover the missing funds?
Time will tell but can't see it myself.
No, we don’t know how long they took to get the capital together. They may have had the same investors in place for months and the time has been spent negotiating with RD.
Just so I'm clear. The Aussies have taken the best part of a YEAR to get the capital together for this. Two major investers have walked/been refused in the past couple of weeks. Worry not. Within DAYS new investors have been found that can cover the missing funds?
Just so I'm clear. The Aussies have taken the best part of a YEAR to get the capital together for this. Two major investers have walked/been refused in the past couple of weeks. Worry not. Within DAYS new investors have been found that can cover the missing funds?
Time will tell but can't see it myself.
No, we don’t know how long they took to get the capital together. They may have had the same investors in place for months and the time has been spent negotiating with RD.
It’ll all come out in the wash very soon. But rather than arguing now based on speculation, and picking sides, let’s just look forward to an effing good party.
51 days now since they were seen in the directors box v Shrewsbury
Just another example of how shit a football club owner Roland is. Can’t even sell the club properly. Making a pig’s ear of this like he’s made a pig’s ear of everything else
Has he not heard of the expression "to cut your losses".
If only, but as Katrien Miere once said..."Mr Duchatelet has a different kind of passion for Charlton".
Not heard that one before, that adds to the catalogue.
Came from one of those fan meetings she set up with various fan/forum groups...
Self-indulgent nonsense. VOTV revealed what? That it was happening, that it was a done deal. Trust is earned not given, I stopped believing a long time ago.
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
No it wasn't chizzy.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland. Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
I took the piece by @Airman Brown stating "We understand that Duchatelet has set a deadline of this Friday [ie 29 June] for the Aussies to prove they have the funds" to mean what I posted.
Have I misunderstood It? Or misinterpreted it by posting "that deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding"?
And the "monumental mountain" refers to the mess he's made of Charlton. And that very much is down to Roland, exclusively.
Good to hear that you should be having beers soon with your contact. Sounds like a binary conversation will take place..!
The monumental mountain was, according to GM, not of RDs making, but part of problem was that he didn’t even know about it. The Aussies could have walked when they found out about it. We’re lucky they didn’t, especially with no one else waiting in the wings. I’m off on the bike that I’ve had cobbled together from two other bikes I owned. Eight bikes in one house is too many apparently. I’ve only got three now which is a bit sad.
We’re all on the same side. We all want Roland gone, and I think we’re nearly there.
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
No it wasn't chizzy.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland. Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
I took the piece by @Airman Brown stating "We understand that Duchatelet has set a deadline of this Friday [ie 29 June] for the Aussies to prove they have the funds" to mean what I posted.
Have I misunderstood It? Or misinterpreted it by posting "that deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding"?
And the "monumental mountain" refers to the mess he's made of Charlton. And that very much is down to Roland, exclusively.
Good to hear that you should be having beers soon with your contact. Sounds like a binary conversation will take place..!
The monumental mountain was, according to GM, not of RDs making, but part of problem was that he didn’t even know about it. The Aussies could have walked when they found out about it. We’re lucky they didn’t, especially with no one else waiting in the wings. I’m off on the bike that I’ve had cobbled together from two other bikes I owned. Eight bikes in one house is too many apparently. I’ve only got three now which is a bit sad.
We’re all on the same side. We all want Roland gone, and I think we’re nearly there.
Self-indulgent nonsense. VOTV revealed what? That it was happening, that it was a done deal. Trust is earned not given, I stopped believing a long time ago.
Not saying I believe it or that it’s 100% fact, I was just answering the question on where the talk of a deadline this week came from.
There's no way the Aussies didn't know about the multiple ownerships rules. From what we know there were 2 issues raised by the EFL, we don't know if that was with one investor or with 2 investors. We do know from James Seed that one investor stepped out as a result and has now been replaced.
The most likely reason being that they knew about the issue, but thought it would be resolved before the fit and proper tests were completed. It wasn't resolved, and isn't going to be resolved imminently, so they stepped away from the deal. That fits all the facts we know and makes logical sense. Of course there are lots of other possibilities, but them not know about that rule seems by far the least likely, yet people keep saying it and using as some sort of stick to beat the Aussies with.
Pretty sure, but didn't hear this from GM, but from another source. I agree with Airman that it's the directors loans issue that is holding things up.
If the directors loans are holding things up, would they consider rolling over the loans to the Aussies, if the Aussies bid is credible to reach the Premiership (easy for me to propose I know, over what is a large sum of not my money). If the Aussies plan is solid then there may be a better chance to get their money back than with Duchatelet ?
Or is Duchatelet trying to pay them off, so he can do his own rolling on money owed with keeping hold of the ground ?
(Apologies if this has been covered in the last 200 pages of this sometimes difficult to follow thread : puns / fighting / out & out BS with the occasional relevant bit of news).
I don't believe the Aussies want to pay the over valuation, AND another £7M later if they reach they're objective.
I’m assuming the “monumental mountain” @JamesSeed mentions is something that is a hangover from the days of Slater and Jiminez rather than the £7 million directors loans.
If Duchatelet did not as is widely accepted, carry out a proper due diligence then the web and fog of concealment put in place by the two spivs could easily have thrown up something that has taken a year to resolve.
I really hope that if and when this saga is concluded that someone will be able to shed light on exactly what the problems have been.
Who knows whether the deadline (if there was one) was missed (if it was, as rumoured, yesterday)?
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
No it wasn't chizzy.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland. Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
I took the piece by @Airman Brown stating "We understand that Duchatelet has set a deadline of this Friday [ie 29 June] for the Aussies to prove they have the funds" to mean what I posted.
Have I misunderstood It? Or misinterpreted it by posting "that deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding"?
And the "monumental mountain" refers to the mess he's made of Charlton. And that very much is down to Roland, exclusively.
Good to hear that you should be having beers soon with your contact. Sounds like a binary conversation will take place..!
The monumental mountain was, according to GM, not of RDs making, but part of problem was that he didn’t even know about it. The Aussies could have walked when they found out about it. We’re lucky they didn’t, especially with no one else waiting in the wings. I’m off on the bike that I’ve had cobbled together from two other bikes I owned. Eight bikes in one house is too many apparently. I’ve only got three now which is a bit sad.
We’re all on the same side. We all want Roland gone, and I think we’re nearly there.
If RD had done proper due diligence he’d presumably have known everything. Anyone who understood Slater would have realised he was taking the piss when he praised Duchatelet for doing his own due diligence, meaning the deal could be done very quickly.
Self-indulgent nonsense. VOTV revealed what? That it was happening, that it was a done deal. Trust is earned not given, I stopped believing a long time ago.
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Or
"Tony Jimenez and Kevin Cash are well dodgy Spivs"
That deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding. Presumably in the form of documentation to RD. But not to the media. Not via a press release. Not in a post on CL.
Whether that information was made public wouldn't be down to the Aussies. They, by word and action, have demonstrated clearly that they do indeed have the money. They've told @JamesSeed that they have replaced investor(s) that have exited the consortium. And they've continued - at significant expense - to participate in the purchase. These aren't the actions of a consortium unable to meet its financial obligations.
No, we won't be hearing from that side of the equation to confirm what they've already demonstrated. (Lewis Hamilton doesn't hold a press conference after every GP win to re-establish that yes, in fact, he does have a driving licence).
If we are going to hear anything it should come from the stumbling, bumbling wreck that's been trying to sell the club for so long. It's the owner that should confirm whether his artificial deadline was a help or a hindrance to the sales process. It is from RD that we should hear if his deadline was met.
Of course, communication isn't the arrogant thicko's best trait. (It's not his worst, but certainly isn't his best). The shady has-been's attempts at dialogue with the most important people in the club have been consistently embarrassing. From inarticulate ramblings turned into web posts to hand-picked, hidden, secret meetings with tiny groups of friendly, gullible, malleable fans, his attempts at keeping the vital congregation onside have been abject lessons in "how not to do PR".
But now, finally, the time has arrived to clear up the monumental mountain of nonsense he has created.
Roland, if you're reading this, I have two requests of you.
Please Roland, for your own sake and for everyone else's, tell us what the fucking hell is going on.
But get someone to proofread it first.
Thanks.
A lot of new info has surfaced in the last couple of days, and it's not my place to mention what it is, but you're right about the monumental mountain, but not necessarily all created by Roland.
Good vibes for next week. GM's mentioning 'beer soon', which may mean good news is coming, because he's been telling me nothing (other than 'it's still on') and wouldn't meet me for a beer while deal was being done. Not that he doesn't trust me or anything ;-)
Have I misunderstood It? Or misinterpreted it by posting "that deadline was to prove that the Aussies had funding"?
And the "monumental mountain" refers to the mess he's made of Charlton. And that very much is down to Roland, exclusively.
Good to hear that you should be having beers soon with your contact. Sounds like a binary conversation will take place..!
Two major investers have walked/been refused in the past couple of weeks.
Worry not. Within DAYS new investors have been found that can cover the missing funds?
Time will tell but can't see it myself.
RD is like an animal that has got itself caught in a trap and then has to gnaw off the trapped leg in order to escape. Self-inflicted.
Imagine how long that takes, and how painful .... my sympathies are entirely with the animal.
I’m off on the bike that I’ve had cobbled together from two other bikes I owned. Eight bikes in one house is too many apparently. I’ve only got three now which is a bit sad.
We’re all on the same side. We all want Roland gone, and I think we’re nearly there.
If Duchatelet did not as is widely accepted, carry out a proper due diligence then the web and fog of concealment put in place by the two spivs could easily have thrown up something that has taken a year to resolve.
I really hope that if and when this saga is concluded that someone will be able to shed light on exactly what the problems have been.