A spokesman for the forum *Tom Runningshoe* has said on behalf of the owners. "The forum is not for sale, despite reaching 1000 posts of mainly drivel we believe we have the right man @i_b_b_o_r_g to lead us into the Championship, work continues with the Academy as we blood the youngsters @cantersaddick to hopefully make the grade and step up to the first team before being moved on the following month. Sadly not all the youngsters make the step up @Dazzler21 and drop out of the league or end up delivering the @News Shopper
I think we’ve had a year 2000 moment with this thread. Back then, All of the experts said our computer systems would crash at midnight. @AFKABartram said we’d never make 1000 pages BUT WE DID. Well done, everyone. A great achievement #TeamWIOTOS
Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:
Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently. Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from loosing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:
Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently. Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.
Are we sure he didn't mean this thread reaching 1000 pages?
Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:
Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently. Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.
Are we sure he didn't mean this thread reaching 1000 pages?
Not a clue @Chris_from_Sidcup - I just saw it but reposted for @ShootersHillGuru but thinking about it I suppose it could have been the 1000 pages....who knows anymore!!
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
But do you have any takeover news??? Does Anyone ???
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
But do you have any takeover news??? Does Anyone ???
RD owns the club and can therefore call all the tunes. He doesn't *have* to sell, but it's pretty clear that he wants to, and to do so as soon as he can. But he can carry the loss of continued ownership if he really needs to.
The Aussies are diligent, loaded (inasmuch as they have very wealthy individuals within their consortium) and have committed significant time and money into the venture. There's no sign - yet - that they are going to walk away. But, of course, they could, at any time.
The mysterious British consortium (in the style of the Apprentice, I will give them a suitable name: "Figment") seems to have turned RD's (and Murray's) eye. Which indicates that they probably have means of rustling up enough dough. "Enough", but maybe not as much as the Aussies - otherwise, I would assume that RD would bite their fabricated hands off. So, maybe Team Figment have enough dough only to bale out RD if the Aussies' bid fails, collapses or is withdrawn.
It seems to me that the Aussies can muster up sufficient dough, otherwise they are wasting everyone's - most importantly their own - time. So why haven't they closed the deal yet? I think there might be two reasons. First, they may still be shuffling the pack (to extend the analogy) within their consortium, to ensure they have sufficient contributors to the consortium to show enough funding, but that each contributor is ranked within the consortium so as not to fall foul of the EFL checklist. They may be simply ensuring that any individual contributing to the pool of funding who would otherwise be disbarred by (for example) being in a controlling position at another football club is shown to be "merely" a silent investor within the Aussies' consortium and not controlling the direction of the consortium. Put bluntly, they may be finding a different role for Keith Harris that allows him (within EFL's rules) to be a shareholder, but not as a primary investor.
The second reason they might not yet have closed the deal is that RD is acting intolerably. I have no evidence that this might be the case. But it seems that every action he has taken in the four and a half years at Charlton gives rise to the suspicion that he acts in a way that's suboptimal to the benefit of the club. (Yes, I am being kind). So has he agreed a fee? Yes, it appears so. Has he then moved the goalposts? Yes - two centre backs have been sold this month. Is he working diligently for the benefit of the club? No - Charlton still has no permanent management team, no Chief Exec and no Chief Finance Officer, season ticket sales appear to be down yet again and, although a pre-season tour has been arranged, I can only hope the opposition are both lined up (as we won't be able to field an internal Xi v XI match) and not very good (because we won't be either). All this points to someone wanting to ensure he's no longer owner of the club, very soon.
The British consortium - Team Figment - is an unknown quantity. But I will have a few guesses. I think Murray might have some involvement. If so, that would mean three things. First, he will have other investors involved - I don't think he has enough money to complete the investment on his own; and if he did, I don't think he'd want to. Second he would have access to a lot of Charlton people, with whom he could surround himself - Peacock and Curbishley being the most obvious names. And third, he would have unprecedented knowledge of the infrastructure, contractual positions and background of the club. So a Murray-involved consortium would be in a very quick position to close a deal, as DD would be swift, he either has or doesn't have sufficient funding (binary!) and he would be able to garner support from some (if not most) fans, by surrounding himself with proper Charlton people. Moreover, he would be able to construct a deal without the ground and training ground, if that was necessary, as he has intimate knowledge of the costs and benefits of ownership.
So, who holds the cards? I think they all have good hands, at least in terms of serving their own purposes. The Aussies are still in prime position, as long as their ducks (Orville reference) are in line. Team Figment can step in if the Aussies' hand isn't strong enough. And RD can pull the plug, in the style of someone trying to rob a bank with a gun to his own head and shouting "give me all your money or this idiot gets it".
RD fails if he plays his own hand. Team Figment can only play their hand if the Aussies pass. And team Aussie still have some bluffing to complete.
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
Yep and for the record I've apologised to James for my over the top ranting on Saturday. All got a bit silly.
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
A Bitter sweet moment has been reached, and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.
We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.
I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.
There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?
Is this the beginning of the end ? Or the end of the beginning ?
Recover from what. Have I missed something?
I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
Welcome back.
Thanks you. I'm sorry I got stressed the other night, but it's more to do external factors, than what's happening here. And thanks for all of your nice messages, they meant a lot.
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Easily the worst thread ever on here
Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently.
Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.
Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.
The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.
Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.
I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
If this is a poker game, who has the best hand?
RD owns the club and can therefore call all the tunes. He doesn't *have* to sell, but it's pretty clear that he wants to, and to do so as soon as he can. But he can carry the loss of continued ownership if he really needs to.
The Aussies are diligent, loaded (inasmuch as they have very wealthy individuals within their consortium) and have committed significant time and money into the venture. There's no sign - yet - that they are going to walk away. But, of course, they could, at any time.
The mysterious British consortium (in the style of the Apprentice, I will give them a suitable name: "Figment") seems to have turned RD's (and Murray's) eye. Which indicates that they probably have means of rustling up enough dough. "Enough", but maybe not as much as the Aussies - otherwise, I would assume that RD would bite their fabricated hands off. So, maybe Team Figment have enough dough only to bale out RD if the Aussies' bid fails, collapses or is withdrawn.
It seems to me that the Aussies can muster up sufficient dough, otherwise they are wasting everyone's - most importantly their own - time. So why haven't they closed the deal yet? I think there might be two reasons. First, they may still be shuffling the pack (to extend the analogy) within their consortium, to ensure they have sufficient contributors to the consortium to show enough funding, but that each contributor is ranked within the consortium so as not to fall foul of the EFL checklist. They may be simply ensuring that any individual contributing to the pool of funding who would otherwise be disbarred by (for example) being in a controlling position at another football club is shown to be "merely" a silent investor within the Aussies' consortium and not controlling the direction of the consortium. Put bluntly, they may be finding a different role for Keith Harris that allows him (within EFL's rules) to be a shareholder, but not as a primary investor.
The second reason they might not yet have closed the deal is that RD is acting intolerably. I have no evidence that this might be the case. But it seems that every action he has taken in the four and a half years at Charlton gives rise to the suspicion that he acts in a way that's suboptimal to the benefit of the club. (Yes, I am being kind). So has he agreed a fee? Yes, it appears so. Has he then moved the goalposts? Yes - two centre backs have been sold this month. Is he working diligently for the benefit of the club? No - Charlton still has no permanent management team, no Chief Exec and no Chief Finance Officer, season ticket sales appear to be down yet again and, although a pre-season tour has been arranged, I can only hope the opposition are both lined up (as we won't be able to field an internal Xi v XI match) and not very good (because we won't be either). All this points to someone wanting to ensure he's no longer owner of the club, very soon.
The British consortium - Team Figment - is an unknown quantity. But I will have a few guesses. I think Murray might have some involvement. If so, that would mean three things. First, he will have other investors involved - I don't think he has enough money to complete the investment on his own; and if he did, I don't think he'd want to. Second he would have access to a lot of Charlton people, with whom he could surround himself - Peacock and Curbishley being the most obvious names. And third, he would have unprecedented knowledge of the infrastructure, contractual positions and background of the club. So a Murray-involved consortium would be in a very quick position to close a deal, as DD would be swift, he either has or doesn't have sufficient funding (binary!) and he would be able to garner support from some (if not most) fans, by surrounding himself with proper Charlton people. Moreover, he would be able to construct a deal without the ground and training ground, if that was necessary, as he has intimate knowledge of the costs and benefits of ownership.
So, who holds the cards? I think they all have good hands, at least in terms of serving their own purposes. The Aussies are still in prime position, as long as their ducks (Orville reference) are in line. Team Figment can step in if the Aussies' hand isn't strong enough. And RD can pull the plug, in the style of someone trying to rob a bank with a gun to his own head and shouting "give me all your money or this idiot gets it".
RD fails if he plays his own hand. Team Figment can only play their hand if the Aussies pass. And team Aussie still have some bluffing to complete.
So what do I think? Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!