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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,120
    I think we’ve had a year 2000 moment with this thread. Back then, All of the experts said our computer systems would crash at midnight. @AFKABartram said we’d never make 1000 pages BUT WE DID. Well done, everyone. A great achievement #TeamWIOTOS
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,656
    Right. I’m sure last night someone posted that today was a big day with the deal going one way or the other. Who was that and was it correct ?

  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,289

    Right. I’m sure last night someone posted that today was a big day with the deal going one way or the other. Who was that and was it correct ?

    Your talking at least 15 pages ago. I've eaten a pot noodle since then
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    What an utter load of bollocks, 175 new posts lol
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:

    Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently.
    Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,147

    Right. I’m sure last night someone posted that today was a big day with the deal going one way or the other. Who was that and was it correct ?

    @SoundAsa£ did.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from loosing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
  • Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:

    Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently.
    Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.

    Are we sure he didn't mean this thread reaching 1000 pages?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,403
    Only 998 pages until 2000!
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700

    Hi @ShootersHillGuru it was Sound as£ that posted it on page 995, I've copied and pasted below for you-:

    Been told something major is going to happen tomorrow......matters coming to a head evidently.
    Not sure what it all means to be honest and I’m not sure I want to.......may find sleeping tonight a little difficult in nervous anticipation......could go either way I’m told.

    Are we sure he didn't mean this thread reaching 1000 pages?
    Not a clue @Chris_from_Sidcup - I just saw it but reposted for @ShootersHillGuru but thinking about it I suppose it could have been the 1000 pages....who knows anymore!!

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,388

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,775
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    But do you have any takeover news??? Does Anyone ???
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,147
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
  • JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    But do you have any takeover news??? Does Anyone ???
    Shtum, James, Shtum. You know it makes sense...
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,348
    edited June 2018
    Who holds the cards right now?

    If this is a poker game, who has the best hand?

    RD owns the club and can therefore call all the tunes. He doesn't *have* to sell, but it's pretty clear that he wants to, and to do so as soon as he can. But he can carry the loss of continued ownership if he really needs to.

    The Aussies are diligent, loaded (inasmuch as they have very wealthy individuals within their consortium) and have committed significant time and money into the venture. There's no sign - yet - that they are going to walk away. But, of course, they could, at any time.

    The mysterious British consortium (in the style of the Apprentice, I will give them a suitable name: "Figment") seems to have turned RD's (and Murray's) eye. Which indicates that they probably have means of rustling up enough dough. "Enough", but maybe not as much as the Aussies - otherwise, I would assume that RD would bite their fabricated hands off. So, maybe Team Figment have enough dough only to bale out RD if the Aussies' bid fails, collapses or is withdrawn.

    It seems to me that the Aussies can muster up sufficient dough, otherwise they are wasting everyone's - most importantly their own - time. So why haven't they closed the deal yet? I think there might be two reasons. First, they may still be shuffling the pack (to extend the analogy) within their consortium, to ensure they have sufficient contributors to the consortium to show enough funding, but that each contributor is ranked within the consortium so as not to fall foul of the EFL checklist. They may be simply ensuring that any individual contributing to the pool of funding who would otherwise be disbarred by (for example) being in a controlling position at another football club is shown to be "merely" a silent investor within the Aussies' consortium and not controlling the direction of the consortium. Put bluntly, they may be finding a different role for Keith Harris that allows him (within EFL's rules) to be a shareholder, but not as a primary investor.

    The second reason they might not yet have closed the deal is that RD is acting intolerably. I have no evidence that this might be the case. But it seems that every action he has taken in the four and a half years at Charlton gives rise to the suspicion that he acts in a way that's suboptimal to the benefit of the club. (Yes, I am being kind). So has he agreed a fee? Yes, it appears so. Has he then moved the goalposts? Yes - two centre backs have been sold this month. Is he working diligently for the benefit of the club? No - Charlton still has no permanent management team, no Chief Exec and no Chief Finance Officer, season ticket sales appear to be down yet again and, although a pre-season tour has been arranged, I can only hope the opposition are both lined up (as we won't be able to field an internal Xi v XI match) and not very good (because we won't be either). All this points to someone wanting to ensure he's no longer owner of the club, very soon.

    The British consortium - Team Figment - is an unknown quantity. But I will have a few guesses. I think Murray might have some involvement. If so, that would mean three things. First, he will have other investors involved - I don't think he has enough money to complete the investment on his own; and if he did, I don't think he'd want to. Second he would have access to a lot of Charlton people, with whom he could surround himself - Peacock and Curbishley being the most obvious names. And third, he would have unprecedented knowledge of the infrastructure, contractual positions and background of the club. So a Murray-involved consortium would be in a very quick position to close a deal, as DD would be swift, he either has or doesn't have sufficient funding (binary!) and he would be able to garner support from some (if not most) fans, by surrounding himself with proper Charlton people. Moreover, he would be able to construct a deal without the ground and training ground, if that was necessary, as he has intimate knowledge of the costs and benefits of ownership.

    So, who holds the cards? I think they all have good hands, at least in terms of serving their own purposes. The Aussies are still in prime position, as long as their ducks (Orville reference) are in line. Team Figment can step in if the Aussies' hand isn't strong enough. And RD can pull the plug, in the style of someone trying to rob a bank with a gun to his own head and shouting "give me all your money or this idiot gets it".

    RD fails if he plays his own hand. Team Figment can only play their hand if the Aussies pass. And team Aussie still have some bluffing to complete.

    So what do I think? Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,134

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
    Not sure that rhymes?
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,922

    My question about the leasing the training ground rumour is who is going to invest the required £8m to £10m to bring it up to standard?

    A tennant who doesn't own it?

    A landlord who doesn't use it and who pulled the plug on it years ago?

    The Valley would need maintenance but not to the same extent as Sparrows Lane, which needs major construction.

    Hauntingly like when the east terrace needed work and the LL,Glickstein, wouldn't pay for it.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,349
    Welcome back James. I appreciated your info and it was pretty clear who your contact was/is.

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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304

    Post 30,000 is mine. This one. This was it. I am the winner. I win Charlton life. Give me powers to ban and promote!

    This is a proud day for me and a proud day in my families illustrious history, I'd like to thank my hamsters.....

    Do me a favour. Can you ban me? I haven't the courage to do it myself. Just pull the trigger when I'm not looking.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,494
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
    Thanks you. I'm sorry I got stressed the other night, but it's more to do external factors, than what's happening here. And thanks for all of your nice messages, they meant a lot.
    Sod off ;)
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
    Well said,

    CL is a family of strangers who live in the shadows and only a few are known to each other but should have the common goal of cafc being a vibrant football club where we can argue the toss (there may be a thread for this as well ) and disagree without crossing the line (where the fuck is the line Sam ?)

    Having a healthy ding dong(Leslie Phillips you old smoothy)under Queensbury rules is fine, no harm done other than a few egos put out of place.

    Carry on posting.
    (was Sid James in that one ?)
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,865

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
    Well said,

    CL is a family of strangers who live in the shadows and only a few are known to each other but should have the common goal of cafc being a vibrant football club where we can argue the toss (there may be a thread for this as well ) and disagree without crossing the line (where the fuck is the line Sam ?)

    Having a healthy ding dong(Leslie Phillips you old smoothy)under Queensbury rules is fine, no harm done other than a few egos put out of place.

    Carry on posting.
    (was Sid James in that one ?)
    What a load of bollox!
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,775
    Id like to teach the world to sing
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,847
    Have I missed the 1K party?
  • Jon_CAFC_
    Jon_CAFC_ Posts: 563
    This threads legs are going, shall we give it a testimonial
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    JamesSeed said:

    A Bitter sweet moment has been reached,
    and this thread has an ugly beauty where the small step to the peak of this mountain is also our nadir. The lack of Oxygen has created the senses to become cloudy and many are now suffering from cognitive dissonance where they wanted to reach the 1000, yet also craved this sad heavy gravity journey to reach its conclusion.

    We have lost folk on the way because we had too many Tensing Norgays who all wanted to climb by a different route, and Edmund Hillary started to hear so many voices in his head he didn't know whether to go down under or middle East route or just keep going till WIOTOS.

    I hope you recover soon @jimmyseed but you tried to climb two mountains at the same time while riding a bike which could only end one way.

    There are too many people to thank and blame for this thread but the BIG Question remains?

    Is this the beginning of the end ?
    Or the end of the beginning ?

    Recover from what. Have I missed something?
    I hope you recover from losing your wonderful sense of humour which went AWOL when you confused social media with real life.
    It's others who are confusing social media with real life, not me.

    Things went way too far, and definitely weren't funny, at 'another place'.

    The defense of, 'we were trying to be funny doesn't work'.


    Please let's not debate this further. We can't discuss other forums here, quite rightly.

    I'd be happy to get back to poetry and fish puns however, although I'm struggling to find a decent rhyme for 'thousand'?
    Welcome back.
    Thanks you. I'm sorry I got stressed the other night, but it's more to do external factors, than what's happening here. And thanks for all of your nice messages, they meant a lot.
    Glory boy, we hit the 1k page and they all come out the woodwork :wink:
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,725
    now we have got to the magical 1000 pages & people have had their fun do you think we can get this thread back on topic.

    thanks....
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    This thread is like a stopped clock. It's on topic twice a day.
This discussion has been closed.