The only thing that would cheer me up at present is for Knobinson to go - however poor the players are they're capable of better than this. Wtf do they do all week in training? MK Dons looked like Barcelona compared to our rabble. If we do get relegated with the current owners and KR remains in charge that will effectively be the end of it. F***ing angry that something so important to me has been destroyed....
I genuinely think the reason the players didn't bother tonight was because of waving their match fee. I hope I'm wrong but I've got little to reassure myself with right now
Great thoughts on last night debacle. I couldn't believe how many people got up and left at 2-0. I said a couple of years ago we are going to be the next Portsmouth /luton, people laughed but they aren't now.
Great thoughts on last night debacle. I couldn't believe how many people got up and left at 2-0. I said a couple of years ago we are going to be the next Portsmouth /luton, people laughed but they aren't now.
My family are from Stockport and County have managed to drop all the way to the National League North. Tbh their fanbase is probably more optimistic than ours at present.
Most of our players won't be here next season and I think a lot of them have given up.
I genuinely think the reason the players didn't bother tonight was because of waving their match fee. I hope I'm wrong but I've got little to reassure myself with right now
If that was the case sheepie it would be an absolute disgrace to show that level of contempt and disrespect towards the act of giving the game fees to PC Palmer's family, and they should be fecking shot, let alone dropped from the squad.
If that was the case sheepie it would be an absolute disgrace to show that level of contempt and disrespect towards the act of giving the game fees to PC Palmer's family, and they should be fecking shot, let alone dropped from the squad.
Worryingly I don't think I'm alone in thinking it, last night was just awful from the team
Not read any other posts so my thoughts on last night are as follows-:
My first game at The Valley in more than 2 years, traveled back early from working in Oman, arrived late Monday night in Birmingham, then came down to the game purely to show my respects to PC Keith Palmer. I met up with @TCE@DaveStorry and spoke briefly with @AFKABartram. The ground was emptier than I thought it would be, but those there were impeccable before and straight after the minutes silence, it was a very poignant moment, a word of praise also to the MK Dons fans during the silence. Now onto the game.....1 word.....rubbish. What has happened? All those games doing the match thread I always thought we maybe a little better than what I was having to describe....how wrong was I!!! We looked disjointed at best, strangers to each other maybe closer to the mark, Solly is a shadow of his former self, first time seeing Watt, early off he made some good intelligent runs, but the final pass to him was poor, or never arrived and he just faded away. Midfield slow and ponderous, Dasilva just not tall enough for a full back and delivery was poor, big Mag huffed and pufffed that was about it for him. I think it was about 42 mins before we had a shot on goal, I mentioned it to @TCE he responded I had forgotten the over-zealous back pass from one of the MK Dons players to his keeper!! They scored from virtually their first attack of the evening, with our defence at sixes and sevens. I kept looking at the dug-out to see what kind of reaction was going on....KR spent most of it sitting down on the bench!! I thought we might make a fist of it 2nd half.....how wrong was I again. The crowd tried to give support, not one protest song all night.....until their 2nd went in....and the Roland Out song started plus one about Sue Parkes, but even they seemed half-hearted, I think out of respect to PC Keith Palmer and not to turn the night into one that would ruin the evening off the pitch, despite the players ruining it on the pitch. People were leaving in their droves long before the final whistle. I stayed until the bitter end, the players must've heard the "Your not fit to wear the shirt" being shouted at them, KR slunk off down the tunnel, he looked a man bereft of ideas and out of his depth. I took one final look around the famous old ground, knowing I wont be back until the current owners have gone. The club is dying, and I'm saying this with a heavy heart and from someone that has been through good and bad in the last 56 years!! We are in desperate trouble, the soul has gone, the players are in the main good enough but don't know what to do. I saw Sue Parkes sitting in the directors box with 'that' scarf, she seemed nonplussed to it all. I walked back to my car and drove the 3 hours home to Hinckley, mainly in disbelief of what I had just witnessed, this morning I'm annoyed, annoyed that these owners have taken us to our lowest ever league position....so far. League 2 is a possibility, I fear if that happens no-one in their right mind will buy us. My Dad and both Grandad's and indeed my recently departed Mum will be looking down in complete horror at what is happening, between us we have nearly 100 years of supporting CAFC, I feel sick. I hope I'm still alive to see the day this cancerous regime leave, I want to come back to a Happy Valley, not one where most people don't want to be. As an aside I was speaking to an old couple next to me, who keep going and are not part of protests, they must have been in mid-seventies in age, they had parked near me, as we spoke they said that enough is enough, they sat and wondered what can be done, then agreed a new owner is now desperately required. Sorry for the long post, but I'll not be doing another one until this lot have departed. To those that keep going I salute you, being out of the country, in the main, gives me the ability in most cases to avoid knowing the result until the next day. All-in-all a total trip of 4900 miles to pay my respects to PC Keith Palmer and was happy to do it, I wont be traveling one mile to see this regimes team, I could easily go to the Coventry game (11 miles from where I live), but I'm spending Easter doing something else.....anything else!!
First game since the early joint protest with Coventry supporters and only went to pay my respects to PC Keith Palmer.
Met up with a few policemen outside the ground, shoook their hands, but couldn't say too much intelligable due the level of emotion within me.
The supporters did Keith proud; an inpeccable one minutes silence and plenty of support during the first half for Keith from the North Bank joined in by supporters throughout the ground.
The first half wase dire, we couldn't hang on to the ball for any length of time and I cant recall us creating a single chance in the first half. It was no surprise when MK Dons scored; it must surely have been one of their easiest games of the season.
I now realise that my passion has been sapped, or more to the point totally drained. There is no longer any Charlton fire left in my belly, no feeling of emotional attachment. My feeling during the game was one of neutrality. I couldn't be bothered to clap, chant or rant; just a feeling of numbness and a self question, "what am I doing here".
Half time I went for my customary pee, carried on walking, right outside of the ground. The young lady, upon opening the gate for me to exit said "you wont be able to come back in"; I just couldn't be bothered to give her a sarcastic response.
On my 85 miles drive home, I had no inclination to check the score on my radio, such is my disaffection with my club.
I have been a enthusiastic CARD foot soldier at all protests, handing out flying pigs, beach balls, taxis, alternative match programmes etc. I have no inclination to continue. My white flag has been waived
Fed up with watching the same old rubbish week on week. Fed up of the time and money taken up by my 24th season ticket and 130 mile round-trip every time. Fed up of seeing great, promising talent like Joe Aribo have the confidence drained out of them by being a part of all of this. Fed up of the likes of Tony Watt still looking like he just can't be bothered. Fed up of seeing Johnnie Jackson looking so helpless and unable to drag us out of this mess on his own. Fed up of seeing The Valley so empty and sounding so lifeless. Fed up of watching 11 men wearing the shirt that means so much to me, looking like they couldn't care less. Fed up of this brilliant club being poisoned by idiots who genuinely have no idea. Fed up of seeing our smirking, lying CEO roll up to games week on week without a care in the world. Fed up with what a Belgian millionaire I had never even heard of a few years ago, has done to us all.
I have been a enthusiastic CARD foot soldier at all protests, handing out flying pigs, beach balls, taxis, alternative match programmes etc. I have no inclination to continue. My white flag has been waived
Don't wave the white flag mate.
They can be beaten. And will be beaten. And then you, me and many like us can get our club back and we can all go back to what we have enjoyed doing for many years.
First game since the early joint protest with Coventry supporters and only went to pay my respects to PC Keith Palmer.
Met up with a few policemen outside the ground, shoook their hands, but couldn't say too much intelligable due the level of emotion within me.
The supporters did Keith proud; an inpeccable one minutes silence and plenty of support during the first half for Keith from the North Bank joined in by supporters throughout the ground.
The first half wase dire, we couldn't hang on to the ball for any length of time and I cant recall us creating a single chance in the first half. It was no surprise when MK Dons scored; it must surely have been one of their easiest games of the season.
I now realise that my passion has been sapped, or more to the point totally drained. There is no longer any Charlton fire left in my belly, no feeling of emotional attachment. My feeling during the game was one of neutrality. I couldn't be bothered to clap, chant or rant; just a feeling of numbness and a self question, "what am I doing here".
Half time I went for my customary pee, carried on walking, right outside of the ground. The young lady, upon opening the gate for me to exit said "you wont be able to come back in"; I just couldn't be bothered to give her a sarcastic response.
On my 85 miles drive home, I had no inclination to check the score on my radio, such is my disaffection with my club.
I have been a enthusiastic CARD foot soldier at all protests, handing out flying pigs, beach balls, taxis, alternative match programmes etc. I have no inclination to continue. My white flag has been waived
You should have said to her - 'Thanks - It is re-assuring to know that if I am stupid enough to try to come back in, I will be saved from myself.'
Anyone like me, who went to the last home game and watched how we dominated Bradford for 90 mins (a team that has been up there all season) must be thinking WTF has happened. Last night was as inept as you could possibly get. Any pattern of team play was totalling absent. 11 individuals who sort of looked like they were trying but the outcome makes you wonder?? As a team it has become the norm to only play decent for either the 1st or 2nd half but last night we managed 90 mins of utter dross and on a night which meant so much. Unfathomable
I came in to write this exact word - and it was the first remark!
Something very very wrong last night.
I am going to clutch at the largest of straws now. Perhaps the players know there is a takeover going through and the players know they will all be out on their ear next season. As does Robbo. That's the only explanation for the digusting performance of last night - either that or we are just rudderless lumps of dog shit
I came in to write this exact word - and it was the first remark!
Something very very wrong last night.
I am going to clutch at the largest of straws now. Perhaps the players know there is a takeover going through and the players know they will all be out on their ear next season. As does Robbo. That's the only explanation for the digusting performance of last night - either that or we are just rudderless lumps of dog shit
I'm not sure that the two are mutually exclusive...
Anyone like me, who went to the last home game and watched how we dominated Bradford for 90 mins (a team that has been up there all season) must be thinking WTF has happened. Last night was as inept as you could possibly get. Any pattern of team play was totalling absent. 11 individuals who sort of looked like they were trying but the outcome makes you wonder?? As a team it has become the norm to only play decent for either the 1st or 2nd half but last night we managed 90 mins of utter dross and on a night which meant so much. Unfathomable
100% this. Said exactly the samething to my oldman as we were leaving.
Met up with OzAddick for our first game of the season. What a shocker. The whole team looked like they had never met each other before. There didnt look to be any sort of plan, certainly no cohesion and no leadership either on the field or from off it. God knows what they do in "training" and I use that word lightly as they look like a bunch of guys scraped together from the crowd pre-match. The club is obviously rotten to the core and we need a Chris Powell type clear out at the end of the season with a team built around Holmes. The rest just arent even up to league 2 standard from last nights evidence.
As for Gobinson? is he really the man to rebuild us? I personally think from his tenure at the club he is just one to add to a long list of employees stealing a living.
I finally got back to my Motorhome at 1 am. At the end of the train journey I had a sobering 2 mile walk. Upon reflection I think this team would have been dead and buried if it wasnt for Slade and Nugent. I fear for us under the current situation as I still think things can get worse.
Anyone like me, who went to the last home game and watched how we dominated Bradford for 90 mins (a team that has been up there all season) must be thinking WTF has happened. Last night was as inept as you could possibly get. Any pattern of team play was totalling absent. 11 individuals who sort of looked like they were trying but the outcome makes you wonder?? As a team it has become the norm to only play decent for either the 1st or 2nd half but last night we managed 90 mins of utter dross and on a night which meant so much. Unfathomable
Agreed. Yes the owners have been a disaster...but there's no way that group of players should have played that badly, not just individually, but also tactically.
The starting 11 wasn't stuffed with loanees, only 2 Rudd and DaSilva, and they were by no means the worst players out there It wasn't full of spreadsheet style foreign signings or loads of youngsters.
There's something seriously wrong though with the tactics and commitment though. I think back to Nugent or even Craig Shakespeare at Leicester, sometimes it doesn't take much to get the same bunch of players playing better, just a simple plan that everyone buys into and more commitment.
To me KR is floundering, constantly changing personnel from match to match, saying different and contradictory things in each interview, I think the players have lost faith in him.
Anyone like me, who went to the last home game and watched how we dominated Bradford for 90 mins (a team that has been up there all season) must be thinking WTF has happened. Last night was as inept as you could possibly get. Any pattern of team play was totalling absent. 11 individuals who sort of looked like they were trying but the outcome makes you wonder?? As a team it has become the norm to only play decent for either the 1st or 2nd half but last night we managed 90 mins of utter dross and on a night which meant so much. Unfathomable
Same thought occurred to me when I got home and compared how I felt walking through the door after the Bradford game. That night I actually felt as if I'd been entertained for the first time in ages - last night I was lurching between anger/disbelief/frustration
I genuinely think the reason the players didn't bother tonight was because of waving their match fee. I hope I'm wrong but I've got little to reassure myself with right now
I thought that too. Any neutral certainly would have, so why shouldn't we?
Is there anyone out there who feels Robinson should be given more time? The only ones not calling for his head seem to be those hoping him remaining is a sign Roland is about to sell ...
Robinson is tactically inept, players out of position and formation that doesn't work.
And to the spotty little prick in a pink stone island jumper standing at the back of the north upper giving it billy big bollox trying to have an argument with a bloke in the next bloke, do fuck off. You were scared of the stewards at half time because you were smoking
we realy have sunk to an all time low someone in our lot wearing stone island and probably fake
Pink as well.....
Now here's someone I thought I would never see commenting on fashion!
I sit in the East stand in what will be a £500 ticket next season. I have sat in that seat for 20 years. My son gave me his season ticket last week and said i cant take no more. Last night was the first home game he missed since 1998. Two seasons ago he did every game that season, home and away.
He doesn't want a ticket next season and he's just walked away. Last night i was talking to those about me who have sat there for years, and some wont renew next year.
Every home game is 160 mile round trip. I have been a season ticket holder for the same period and on and off previously, even having one when i lived in Scotland in the 80's, travelling down friday night on the bus and going back Saturday night. Valley gold member since 88.
This poisonous regime is ripping the heart out of our club and its fans, and the quicker they move out the better. Take some of those that call themselves footballers on show last night with you.
I sit in the East stand in what will be a £500 ticket next season. I have sat in that seat for 20 years. My son gave me his season ticket last week and said i cant take no more. Last night was the first home game he missed since 1998. Two seasons ago he did every game that season, home and away.
He doesn't want a ticket next season and he's just walked away. Last night i was talking to those about me who have sat there for years, and some wont renew next year.
Every home game is 160 mile round trip. I have been a season ticket holder for the same period and on and off previously, even having one when i lived in Scotland in the 80's, travelling down friday night on the bus and going back Saturday night. Valley gold member since 88.
This poisonous regime is ripping the heart out of our club and its fans, and the quicker they move out the better. Take some of those that call themselves footballers on show last night with you.
I am in the same boat as you but it's only a 15 mile round trip. Sat in my seat since the East Stand was opened and feel sick at the thought of renewing with these idiots in charge especially when it is the 25th anniversary. Seriously having doubts about giving £500 for the privilege of being shat on.
It's all been said already. Last night was a rare visit by me to The Valley these days. I went with my son Robert (who is not on here) and his verdict was that the side that got us relegated from the Championship was worse! I think they are certainly on a par. 4 minutes added time? We wouldn't have scored in 400 minutes! |Yet every time they came anywhere near our goal I felt they could've scored. Funny old game, isn't it?
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Wtf do they do all week in training? MK Dons looked like Barcelona compared to our rabble.
If we do get relegated with the current owners and KR remains in charge that will effectively be the end of it.
F***ing angry that something so important to me has been destroyed....
Most of our players won't be here next season and I think a lot of them have given up.
My first game at The Valley in more than 2 years, traveled back early from working in Oman, arrived late Monday night in Birmingham, then came down to the game purely to show my respects to PC Keith Palmer. I met up with @TCE @DaveStorry and spoke briefly with @AFKABartram. The ground was emptier than I thought it would be, but those there were impeccable before and straight after the minutes silence, it was a very poignant moment, a word of praise also to the MK Dons fans during the silence.
Now onto the game.....1 word.....rubbish. What has happened? All those games doing the match thread I always thought we maybe a little better than what I was having to describe....how wrong was I!!!
We looked disjointed at best, strangers to each other maybe closer to the mark, Solly is a shadow of his former self, first time seeing Watt, early off he made some good intelligent runs, but the final pass to him was poor, or never arrived and he just faded away. Midfield slow and ponderous, Dasilva just not tall enough for a full back and delivery was poor, big Mag huffed and pufffed that was about it for him.
I think it was about 42 mins before we had a shot on goal, I mentioned it to @TCE he responded I had forgotten the over-zealous back pass from one of the MK Dons players to his keeper!!
They scored from virtually their first attack of the evening, with our defence at sixes and sevens.
I kept looking at the dug-out to see what kind of reaction was going on....KR spent most of it sitting down on the bench!!
I thought we might make a fist of it 2nd half.....how wrong was I again. The crowd tried to give support, not one protest song all night.....until their 2nd went in....and the Roland Out song started plus one about Sue Parkes, but even they seemed half-hearted, I think out of respect to PC Keith Palmer and not to turn the night into one that would ruin the evening off the pitch, despite the players ruining it on the pitch. People were leaving in their droves long before the final whistle. I stayed until the bitter end, the players must've heard the "Your not fit to wear the shirt" being shouted at them, KR slunk off down the tunnel, he looked a man bereft of ideas and out of his depth.
I took one final look around the famous old ground, knowing I wont be back until the current owners have gone.
The club is dying, and I'm saying this with a heavy heart and from someone that has been through good and bad in the last 56 years!!
We are in desperate trouble, the soul has gone, the players are in the main good enough but don't know what to do. I saw Sue Parkes sitting in the directors box with 'that' scarf, she seemed nonplussed to it all.
I walked back to my car and drove the 3 hours home to Hinckley, mainly in disbelief of what I had just witnessed, this morning I'm annoyed, annoyed that these owners have taken us to our lowest ever league position....so far. League 2 is a possibility, I fear if that happens no-one in their right mind will buy us.
My Dad and both Grandad's and indeed my recently departed Mum will be looking down in complete horror at what is happening, between us we have nearly 100 years of supporting CAFC, I feel sick.
I hope I'm still alive to see the day this cancerous regime leave, I want to come back to a Happy Valley, not one where most people don't want to be.
As an aside I was speaking to an old couple next to me, who keep going and are not part of protests, they must have been in mid-seventies in age, they had parked near me, as we spoke they said that enough is enough, they sat and wondered what can be done, then agreed a new owner is now desperately required.
Sorry for the long post, but I'll not be doing another one until this lot have departed.
To those that keep going I salute you, being out of the country, in the main, gives me the ability in most cases to avoid knowing the result until the next day.
All-in-all a total trip of 4900 miles to pay my respects to PC Keith Palmer and was happy to do it, I wont be traveling one mile to see this regimes team, I could easily go to the Coventry game (11 miles from where I live), but I'm spending Easter doing something else.....anything else!!
Met up with a few policemen outside the ground, shoook their hands, but couldn't say too much intelligable due the level of emotion within me.
The supporters did Keith proud; an inpeccable one minutes silence and plenty of support during the first half for Keith from the North Bank joined in by supporters throughout the ground.
The first half wase dire, we couldn't hang on to the ball for any length of time and I cant recall us creating a single chance in the first half. It was no surprise when MK Dons scored; it must surely have been one of their easiest games of the season.
I now realise that my passion has been sapped, or more to the point totally drained. There is no longer any Charlton fire left in my belly, no feeling of emotional attachment. My feeling during the game was one of neutrality. I couldn't be bothered to clap, chant or rant; just a feeling of numbness and a self question, "what am I doing here".
Half time I went for my customary pee, carried on walking, right outside of the ground. The young lady, upon opening the gate for me to exit said "you wont be able to come back in"; I just couldn't be bothered to give her a sarcastic response.
On my 85 miles drive home, I had no inclination to check the score on my radio, such is my disaffection with my club.
I have been a enthusiastic CARD foot soldier at all protests, handing out flying pigs, beach balls, taxis, alternative match programmes etc. I have no inclination to continue. My white flag has been waived
Fed up of the time and money taken up by my 24th season ticket and 130 mile round-trip every time.
Fed up of seeing great, promising talent like Joe Aribo have the confidence drained out of them by being a part of all of this.
Fed up of the likes of Tony Watt still looking like he just can't be bothered.
Fed up of seeing Johnnie Jackson looking so helpless and unable to drag us out of this mess on his own.
Fed up of seeing The Valley so empty and sounding so lifeless.
Fed up of watching 11 men wearing the shirt that means so much to me, looking like they couldn't care less.
Fed up of this brilliant club being poisoned by idiots who genuinely have no idea.
Fed up of seeing our smirking, lying CEO roll up to games week on week without a care in the world.
Fed up with what a Belgian millionaire I had never even heard of a few years ago, has done to us all.
#RolandOut
They can be beaten. And will be beaten. And then you, me and many like us can get our club back and we can all go back to what we have enjoyed doing for many years.
As a team it has become the norm to only play decent for either the 1st or 2nd half but last night we managed 90 mins of utter dross and on a night which meant so much. Unfathomable
Something very very wrong last night.
I am going to clutch at the largest of straws now. Perhaps the players know there is a takeover going through and the players know they will all be out on their ear next season. As does Robbo. That's the only explanation for the digusting performance of last night - either that or we are just rudderless lumps of dog shit
As for Gobinson? is he really the man to rebuild us? I personally think from his tenure at the club he is just one to add to a long list of employees stealing a living.
I finally got back to my Motorhome at 1 am. At the end of the train journey I had a sobering 2 mile walk. Upon reflection I think this team would have been dead and buried if it wasnt for Slade and Nugent. I fear for us under the current situation as I still think things can get worse.
The starting 11 wasn't stuffed with loanees, only 2 Rudd and DaSilva, and they were by no means the worst players out there
It wasn't full of spreadsheet style foreign signings or loads of youngsters.
There's something seriously wrong though with the tactics and commitment though. I think back to Nugent or even Craig Shakespeare at Leicester, sometimes it doesn't take much to get the same bunch of players playing better, just a simple plan that everyone buys into and more commitment.
To me KR is floundering, constantly changing personnel from match to match, saying different and contradictory things in each interview, I think the players have lost faith in him.
Just bloody realised. We did not mention Charlton once...
Just want this lot gone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4379762/Westminster-hero-PC-Keith-Palmer-honoured-pitch.html
I know it's not a universally loved paper on here but they do give us a lot of good coverage.
He doesn't want a ticket next season and he's just walked away. Last night i was talking to those about me who have sat there for years, and some wont renew next year.
Every home game is 160 mile round trip. I have been a season ticket holder for the same period and on and off previously, even having one when i lived in Scotland in the 80's, travelling down friday night on the bus and going back Saturday night. Valley gold member since 88.
This poisonous regime is ripping the heart out of our club and its fans, and the quicker they move out the better. Take some of those that call themselves footballers on show last night with you.