I'm never going to defend KR but I'm not convinced it's his fault when crosses from decent positions are straight at the keeper, or when 25-yard pot shots are miles wide and high. Having a crap manager doesn't excuse the players, who very poor. De Silva...a kid loaned. ..only one who did not play badly
Dreadful dreadful dreadful - the players look clueless. Can't blame the owner and CEO for all of this - KR is a dreadful manager. Complete and utter shambles, no team spirit, fans turning on players.
We effectively don't have a manager at present - this side would struggle in L2.
If KR had any decency he would offer his resignation.....
Why can't you blame the owner and CEO for all if this? This is the culmination of their work of the last three years.
KR has to take some responsibility doesn't he? Anyway I'm too pissed off to argue....
Utter utter dross. Total shit from 1-11. The manager is a fat clueless mouthy scouse wanker. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a professional football club he is a chancer who clearly fluked a few decent years at Franchise.
He should be booted out the door immediately. Utterly sick of watching players who have no idea what they should be doing and as a result have zero interest in what is going on around them.
Yes we all know the root of the problem is the lunatic sitting in Belgium, but for me the finger has to be pointed at Robinson. We are getting worse and worse. He has no concept of the basics and is over seeing a footballing disaster.
Make no mistake. We are properly in the shit. If the teams below us pick up we've had it. I can't see another win this season. MK Dons strolled through that, it was pathetic.
You're lucky Clem, I can't see us getting another goal let alone win
Robinson is tactically inept, players out of position and formation that doesn't work.
And to the spotty little prick in a pink stone island jumper standing at the back of the north upper giving it billy big bollox trying to have an argument with a bloke in the next bloke, do fuck off. You were scared of the stewards at half time because you were smoking
we realy have sunk to an all time low someone in our lot wearing stone island and probably fake
Christ that was bloody awful, the worst thing was nobody seemed to care. Gobinson has to go. Most of the fans around me seem resigned to relegation again. I don't often swear but I wish that damn blighter would just sell up and let us get our beloved club back.
Dreadful dreadful dreadful - the players look clueless. Can't blame the owner and CEO for all of this - KR is a dreadful manager. Complete and utter shambles, no team spirit, fans turning on players.
We effectively don't have a manager at present - this side would struggle in L2.
If KR had any decency he would offer his resignation.....
Why can't you blame the owner and CEO for all if this? This is the culmination of their work of the last three years.
KR has to take some responsibility doesn't he? Anyway I'm too pissed off to argue....
I'm not saying that Robinson shouldn't take some responsibility but the buck stops at the top. Every decision that they have made since they took over has been a disaster.
"You're not fit to wear the shirt" - haven't heard/sung that one in a while.
And it's true. Whether one puts it down to the regime's incompetence; the players' incompetence; KR's incompetence; a mental thing - it's true. No-one had the mentality or desire to play for this football club today, with the exception of Ricky Holmes. Even he looked disheartened. Anyway, bullet points:
THE PLAYERS
- Rudd made three really, really good saves in fairness, and I think was let down by his defence for the first, and undone by a brilliant finish for the second. However, he is an integral part of that defence, and the fact we afford teams so much room so far up the pitch has got to be in part down to his command and communication skills (or lack thereof).
- Solly made two/three goal-saving challenges. He looked alright, but still got done by their wingers once or twice, and he pulled himself out of position far too much.
- Pearce was alright for a first game back for a while. Best of a bad bunch defensively. Made a couple of poor passes and some aimless headers, but... Yeah, not total shite.
- Bauer. What the fuck is wrong with him. He's absolutely shot to pieces mentally. Never in position; caught in possession on more than one occasion; no distribution; no pace... Just, what?
- Dasilva was not up to it first half; better second half; but ultimately just isn't ready for this level yet. He will be - and he'll be a cracking player one day - but he's not physical enough to be a L1 left back. Good flashes of skill, but the team's lack of faith in him meant he was miles overexposed in defence, and not backed up when going forward.
- Jacko has the turning circle and reaction time of the fucking Exxon Valdez. He was bypassed a lot in the middle. BUT - some good challenges, and a couple of decent passes. It's just getting harder and harder for his class to manifest.
- Forster-Caskey can fuckster-offey. Total passenger. HOWEVER - I do blame KR in part for sticking him wide right for no reason. Had basically no effect on the game.
- Aribo also let down by formation. He looked mentally affected by the attitudes of all around him, and while his technical ability is there, he was not really with it. Also a passenger.
- Holmes was our best player by some way. And even he only just about had what I would consider an average performance. Ran well with the ball second half; only player to try and attack... Lost the ball a lot though.
- Magennis was a passenger. Headers he won went nowhere. Partly to blame in this is Watt's lack of awareness and positioning in relation to his strike partner. If Watt even was his strike partner - was out on the left a lot.
- Watt can fuck off. Lazy; mentally shot to more pieces than, um, a really big jigsaw; technically nowhere near what he was; fat; unfit... The whole package of shite.
Substitutes
- Botaka had no time to do things.
- Byrne looked limited in technique and idea, no doubt in part due to the collective absence of mental strength from the team as a whole.
THE TEAM AND KR
- No cohesion. Eleven individuals.
- Mentally, no-one was there. Everyone seemed to be thinking about next season, and that next season for EVERY player seemed to be away from the Valley. We should be challenging for promotion, a lot of these guys think, and we're in the relegation fight. They don't give a fuck.
- They probably see the problems off the pitch and that affects them, granted.
- Robinson has no fucking clue. The formation - what the fuck? I can't figure it out. Genuinely no idea. JFC on the right; Holmes in the middle; Watt on the left?! We looked miles better with Holmes on the wing, two strikers, and Botaka on the other wing.
- The players don't trust each other on the ball. Which is fair enough in Bauer's case, but otherwise, the lack of responsibility-taking and trust is damning.
- We give other teams way too much space when they attack. We sink back WAY too deep. It's a huge problem and has been for some time.
- Conversely, we don't attack with enough pace to create our own space when *we* get forward.
OTHER
- Beautiful, tasteful tributes to Keith Palmer pre-match and when we were chanting for him. RIP.
- Amusing to hear the whole anti-Roland repertoire wheeled out, with the addition of "Sue Parkes, you're a c***"...
- Great that more than just a few extra people made the effort to come down.
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Overall though... The club is just toxic at the moment. That's the root of it. I see no remedy other than a takeover/miracle deus ex machina.
Lost for words. Worst display in living memory. Worse than the dark days of the 1970's. On that performance we deserve to go down. What are your excuses tonight Gobinson? Fans were right. Not a single one of them was fit to wear the shirt. Gobinson isn't fit to kick the boots of Curbishley, Powell, Firmani, Bailey. Never have I felt so angry about the team that's been in my heart and soul since 1965. 100% relegation
Well, the minute's silence was well-observed and respectful. Classy even, but the only classy thing about tonight.
I thought the announcer got the tone wrong with his comments about Keith Palmer being one of our own, and really it was downhill from there. MK Dons were nothing special, but they are at least a team.
We weren't. There are only 2 more games I can make - Gills and Swindon. Not sure I really want to go, but we really look like we are the team that suddenly drops. I hope there are 4 teams worse than us. I truly hope it doesn't come down to Swindon on the last day for our survival. Especially if Daisy hasn't put an exclusion clause for Ajose's loan.
I don't have much to say about the match. DaSilva was good, Holmes kept going, Solly was alright. No one had a stand out stinker of a game. The problem is not the individual players, it's that they are just individuals. What do they do on the training pitch?
to think i nearly forked out and went tonight just for a minute i thought we might raise our game for this occasion realy show some passion and fight thank f**k i came to my senses and realised this was never going to happen please just f**k off and let us try and rebuild from the total f**king mess u have left us in! and robinson that includes u
De Silva looked a good player in the second half. Willing to drive forward with some nice passes. MK Dons continued to play from the back and this was one area we should have exploited but failed to put enough pressure on their back three or goalkeeper. Midfield looked exposed as always and attacking options very poor. Lacking decent crosses and no shots to trouble their goalkeeper. Robinson has to change tactics or just go!
Wow, the gift that keeps on giving and just when you think it couldn't get any worse, I think our Kitman is under cover for someone else and loads lead in their boots. Watt is truly, truly, awful - lost the ball that lead to both their goals and didn't track or make any attempt after losing the ball.
I'm struggling to remember the last goal that wasn't from a free kick, corner or penalty, which is embarrassing.
I can honestly say I see better quality football over the park on a Sunday.
Unless both Swindon & Shrewsbury get 4 points less than us (i.e. no more than 4/5 points) we are down, Gillingham, Chesterfield and Swindon, proper old 6 pointers. Time to reinstall Lennie......
Wow, the gift that keeps on giving and just when you think it couldn't get any worse, . Watt is truly, truly, awful - lost the ball that lead to both their goals and didn't track or make any attempt after losing the ball.
Which is probably why he has ended back with us, He just isn't good enough. Hearts sent him back, he's contract expires June 2018.
A question to the regime. Do you seriously think after a performance like that people will pay good money for another season of lies and failures? You are clearly clueless at running a football club so please do us and yourselves a favour and leave this club, sell it, just go. To hawk season tickets on the back of 25 years back at the Valley makes me sick to think that you will be running the show on this important occasion. I can't believe how bad this has got. The football is terrible, the atmosphere at games is toxic and there is a real possibility of another relegation. Top 6 budget, my arse. Just go.
Well I suggested KR pick mainly those here next year and he selected 8 and that excludes JJ who may well be in some guise. No strikers on bench but two on loan elsewhere along with 2 youth. It is depressing, and it will need an extraordinary close season to turn things round even if we stay up. Can't say Gobby has shown he can be trusted to do it.
Has to go, those players have no interest in playing for him and whilst the majority of them are a waste of space we can't do anything about it now. Outplayed by a side like MKD is just embarrassing, she band the players have to take the blame for today. Shocking and so annoyed that it was on a night we were paying respects to a hero
Seems Robinson has tried just about everything. He's tried being nice to them, he's tried being harsh with them, he's tried every possible formation, he's tried getting in new players, he's tried talking about the future. Really, he's tried everything. Except fucking off. He should probably give that a go now
We were awful. Dasilva showed some class at times and aribo showed some bright sparks. What has happened to maggenis, he used to run for every ball-looks disinterested now. Holmes tries to do everything on his own a lot of the time and Watt was nowhere to be seen for most of the match.
Some people seem convinced we will stay up due to the teams we have left to face. Those teams must be rubbing their hands together seeing they have got a game against us coming up.
We don't look like winning at all, when we take the lead we can't hold onto it and to be honest a shot is hard enough to come by, let alone one on target. If Slade was here I could see UA grinding out a couple of bore draws to see us over the line, but this joker will tinker with the team again and put us in a diamond and watch us conceded due to us failing to clear our lines again and again.
I think we need another 3 points to stay up and I really can't see us getting them, however much I might hope we do.
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Anyway I'm too pissed off to argue....
And it's true. Whether one puts it down to the regime's incompetence; the players' incompetence; KR's incompetence; a mental thing - it's true. No-one had the mentality or desire to play for this football club today, with the exception of Ricky Holmes. Even he looked disheartened. Anyway, bullet points:
THE PLAYERS
- Rudd made three really, really good saves in fairness, and I think was let down by his defence for the first, and undone by a brilliant finish for the second. However, he is an integral part of that defence, and the fact we afford teams so much room so far up the pitch has got to be in part down to his command and communication skills (or lack thereof).
- Solly made two/three goal-saving challenges. He looked alright, but still got done by their wingers once or twice, and he pulled himself out of position far too much.
- Pearce was alright for a first game back for a while. Best of a bad bunch defensively. Made a couple of poor passes and some aimless headers, but... Yeah, not total shite.
- Bauer. What the fuck is wrong with him. He's absolutely shot to pieces mentally. Never in position; caught in possession on more than one occasion; no distribution; no pace... Just, what?
- Dasilva was not up to it first half; better second half; but ultimately just isn't ready for this level yet. He will be - and he'll be a cracking player one day - but he's not physical enough to be a L1 left back. Good flashes of skill, but the team's lack of faith in him meant he was miles overexposed in defence, and not backed up when going forward.
- Jacko has the turning circle and reaction time of the fucking Exxon Valdez. He was bypassed a lot in the middle. BUT - some good challenges, and a couple of decent passes. It's just getting harder and harder for his class to manifest.
- Forster-Caskey can fuckster-offey. Total passenger. HOWEVER - I do blame KR in part for sticking him wide right for no reason. Had basically no effect on the game.
- Aribo also let down by formation. He looked mentally affected by the attitudes of all around him, and while his technical ability is there, he was not really with it. Also a passenger.
- Holmes was our best player by some way. And even he only just about had what I would consider an average performance. Ran well with the ball second half; only player to try and attack... Lost the ball a lot though.
- Magennis was a passenger. Headers he won went nowhere. Partly to blame in this is Watt's lack of awareness and positioning in relation to his strike partner. If Watt even was his strike partner - was out on the left a lot.
- Watt can fuck off. Lazy; mentally shot to more pieces than, um, a really big jigsaw; technically nowhere near what he was; fat; unfit... The whole package of shite.
Substitutes
- Botaka had no time to do things.
- Byrne looked limited in technique and idea, no doubt in part due to the collective absence of mental strength from the team as a whole.
THE TEAM AND KR
- No cohesion. Eleven individuals.
- Mentally, no-one was there. Everyone seemed to be thinking about next season, and that next season for EVERY player seemed to be away from the Valley. We should be challenging for promotion, a lot of these guys think, and we're in the relegation fight. They don't give a fuck.
- They probably see the problems off the pitch and that affects them, granted.
- Robinson has no fucking clue. The formation - what the fuck? I can't figure it out. Genuinely no idea. JFC on the right; Holmes in the middle; Watt on the left?! We looked miles better with Holmes on the wing, two strikers, and Botaka on the other wing.
- The players don't trust each other on the ball. Which is fair enough in Bauer's case, but otherwise, the lack of responsibility-taking and trust is damning.
- We give other teams way too much space when they attack. We sink back WAY too deep. It's a huge problem and has been for some time.
- Conversely, we don't attack with enough pace to create our own space when *we* get forward.
OTHER
- Beautiful, tasteful tributes to Keith Palmer pre-match and when we were chanting for him. RIP.
- Amusing to hear the whole anti-Roland repertoire wheeled out, with the addition of "Sue Parkes, you're a c***"...
- Great that more than just a few extra people made the effort to come down.
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Overall though... The club is just toxic at the moment. That's the root of it. I see no remedy other than a takeover/miracle deus ex machina.
I thought the announcer got the tone wrong with his comments about Keith Palmer being one of our own, and really it was downhill from there. MK Dons were nothing special, but they are at least a team.
We weren't. There are only 2 more games I can make - Gills and Swindon. Not sure I really want to go, but we really look like we are the team that suddenly drops. I hope there are 4 teams worse than us. I truly hope it doesn't come down to Swindon on the last day for our survival. Especially if Daisy hasn't put an exclusion clause for Ajose's loan.
I don't have much to say about the match. DaSilva was good, Holmes kept going, Solly was alright. No one had a stand out stinker of a game. The problem is not the individual players, it's that they are just individuals. What do they do on the training pitch?
Hopeless. Hopeless. Hopeless.
just for a minute i thought we might raise our game for this occasion realy show some passion and fight
thank f**k i came to my senses and realised this was never going to happen
please just f**k off and let us try and rebuild from the total f**king mess u have left us in!
and robinson that includes u
Midfield looked exposed as always and attacking options very poor.
Lacking decent crosses and no shots to trouble their goalkeeper.
Robinson has to change tactics or just go!
I'm struggling to remember the last goal that wasn't from a free kick, corner or penalty, which is embarrassing.
I can honestly say I see better quality football over the park on a Sunday.
Unless both Swindon & Shrewsbury get 4 points less than us (i.e. no more than 4/5 points) we are down, Gillingham, Chesterfield and Swindon, proper old 6 pointers. Time to reinstall Lennie......
First time I have seen Forster caskey, bloody hell he is rubbish, looked like a Sunday player playing in the champions league
Got a ticket for Saturday as well, Southend will annihilate us
Otherwise how can you explain that
A question to the regime. Do you seriously think after a performance like that people will pay good money for another season of lies and failures? You are clearly clueless at running a football club so please do us and yourselves a favour and leave this club, sell it, just go. To hawk season tickets on the back of 25 years back at the Valley makes me sick to think that you will be running the show on this important occasion. I can't believe how bad this has got. The football is terrible, the atmosphere at games is toxic and there is a real possibility of another relegation. Top 6 budget, my arse. Just go.
Just win games.
TBH, I would take a draw.
Some people seem convinced we will stay up due to the teams we have left to face. Those teams must be rubbing their hands together seeing they have got a game against us coming up.
We don't look like winning at all, when we take the lead we can't hold onto it and to be honest a shot is hard enough to come by, let alone one on target. If Slade was here I could see UA grinding out a couple of bore draws to see us over the line, but this joker will tinker with the team again and put us in a diamond and watch us conceded due to us failing to clear our lines again and again.
I think we need another 3 points to stay up and I really can't see us getting them, however much I might hope we do.