This article, in a nutshell, is the very problem. My immediate reaction was: 'three years on and we're still talking about this'? That's the sorry truth - not because of CARD or the protests: in fact, it is exactly because of them and, in this case, the B20, that douchebag still feels the need to defend himself. After three years of douchebag we're in a much worse situation than we were before (albeit, maybe, he saved the club from sinking, in that a buyer needed to be found). His network doesn't work, his ideas don't work (although I do agree with the minimum revenue idea, but that's nothing new on his part: it's already been proposed in Finland and Switzerland; and it has nothing to do with football).
This all sheds Robinson's appointment in a different light - although I was, at best, only 50/50. Bring on Nobby Vinegar... nothing else to lose.
Some views from STVV Forum - do you get the feeling that they are not too fond of our illustrious leader either ?.....
It must be that businesses are managed properly Probably he has a board of directors with capable people But football he considered his hobby, and his toys And then surround themselves with football knowledge have not been intended He wanted to make himself a little play with it But then you'd better take a provincial or 3rd amateur league club Then do not you like in Britain to take over a professional club and leave almost two sets down to play in a few years That you should not try with English fanatical supporters
If he says he is tired, the English press will surely have something to say
Exactly - goes to show that Belgian football people understand. It's Duchatalet that doesn't and continues to paint himself as "stupid" and someone who won't listen the the advice of others who know more than he does.
This interview acts as further evidence that we're closer to our goal of removing Duchatalet than ever before. Keep up the pressure and it's a matter of time. He's cracking up.
Also, as an aside, is it any wonder Katrien comes out with the complete wafflebollocks that she does given her boss acts like this. She's actively encouraged to behave the way she does!
This comment is interesting - "there are a number of people behind this who are doing it for all sorts of reasons".
Since the summer the pro-regime faction have hammered this point - that there are only a few key protesters, followed by sheep, and those key protesters have hidden agendas. That argument has appeared across social media and other places, and yet those making the claim can never clarify what the hidden agendas are or why they think so many people are stupid enough to follow without thinking.
We now know where the line of attack comes from. Question is, is it Roland telling Meire telling her cronies, or Meire telling Roland?
This latest outburst is probably among the most divisive statements ever made by a club owner.
The remarks carry all the maturity of a 12yr old so there is little surprise there are of course a number of the dyed in the wool anti CARD, anti protest supporters who will embrace the comments.
I suppose at one level it does distract from the abysmal performance against Peterborough but can anyone tell me how the comments expressed in anyway progress the interests of the club?
To argue his comment might lose something in translation misses the point. If you propose to comment in public on issues surrounding a British organisation in a British Industry monitored by British media you had better make sure your comments are not open to misinterpretation.
It is called respecting the local market.
The entire dialogue talks to how narrow his thinking really is. For a supposed man of intellect he evidences precious little. In my experience people ofn intellect exhibit an expansive open mindset wishing to embrace and process all and any information. Indeed it is the joy of using their intellect to bring clarity and solutions to any given problem. Not quite there yet are we Roland?
Is the best response and the best way forward you can really offer to simply insult your critics? Most of us left such antics in the school playground.
Ratner apart, has any organisation ever so consistently embraced the concept of destroying its own credibility through friendly fire?
Others have commented in detail about the description of expertise of the prevailing coach but I recall this individual being previously described by M Duchatelet as a very good coach. A man whom he had only parted company with on the basis of a difference of opinion on the strategy going forward.
Now apparently he had less knowledge of the clubs' players (most of whom who had played for him for 3yrs) than a group of unconnected, anonymous and likely unqualified scouts.
The comments on player assessment stand no scrutiny at any level.
It again speaks to his inability to differentiate between the nature of expertise between someone who has spent their life in the English game and those who possess little or no understanding of that market. A man of intellect recognises when people are telling him things he wants to hear.
Can there be a more crushing indictment of the man that 3 years later in the face of quite frankly crushing failure he is still desperately trying to defend his actions but only succeeds in digging the hole he has created even deeper?
It appears he simply cannot look failure in the face, acknowledge and adjust. It is akin to those times after Christmas when the Credit Card Bills arrive and you really, really do not want to look and be reminded of how much you have spent.
How can any of this dialogue give any credibility to the assertion they have learned from their mistakes?
If he can make such comments in public we can only guess what goes on behind closed doors.
To those who appear desperate to believe there is a future under this regime I urge them to think again. Without a dramatic U turn the club is truly on the road to oblivion.
This latest communication indicates they simply refuse to learn - what a truly depressing experience.
This latest outburst is probably among the most divisive statements ever made by a club owner.
It's certainly among the most batshit crazy and disrespectful. I'm hoping rather than being divisive though, it will galvanise some of the more reluctant protestors, as well as bringing round some of those who were still unconvinced...
He has basically called Powell and fans stupid/dumb. Firstly it proves he doesn't watch us as Riga only played the network player Powell really wanted and Reza who was crap apart from a goal at Leeds! Also he fails to acknowledge that Powell took us up with a record points total, then only missed out on the play offs the next season by three points. Also that the rug was pulled from him in the season Roland took over and players were not being paid - admittedly before he took over! He did not acknowledge the games in hand, nor that he had denied interference that has been proven to have taken place!
I'd love to debate that dishonest lying weak minded fool who is trying to re-write history and blame everybody else for his incompetence. Powell wasn't the world's greatest manager, but he doesn't deserve it. He is a club legend and I am still raging. I couldn't post earlier as AFKA would have had to remove it! Shouldn't the league sanction Duchatelet for these comments or are you allowed to be so offensive? Do we have to complain to them?
I think we should start singing CP's name on the third minute for three minutes at one of the next home games, with rubber flat caps being thrown on the pitch at the end of the three minutes.
I think we start singing CP's name on the third minute for three minutes at one of the next home games, with rubber flat caps being thrown on the pitch at the end of the three minutes.
The interview with RD was on (Flemish ) national television. It's a weekly talk show, covering different subjects, mainly political. Every week a sports related subject is highlighted, usually by interviewing someone well known. Every evening however, there's another talk show called "de afspraak" (rendezvous). Might I suggest someone (in English shouldn't be a problem) writes a little comment, perhaps even asking for an interview or an invite to either talk show ? They have a habit inviting people with opposing views on a certain matter. You might get lucky to explain your view on the decline of CAFC.
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ... You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
So RD wants the fans to sing and dance after a match, perhaps he should tell KM, because when CAFC fans started singing in the car park she hired in extra security and closed the blinds.
I'm still open-mouthed at how ludicrous this man's basic reasoning is. You can't claim in the same breath that his manager has authority then complain when he's exercised the same.
There's a world of difference between receiving advice and acting on it, and part of that responsibility is to weigh whether its appropriate.
For Powell to determine the network players were neither what was needed nor good enough has been proved correct, not just by history but by the fact the very next boss didn't play them either.
The truth is that Duchatelet couldn't comprehend that Powell, a veteran of hundreds of games right to the highest level, and a title winning manager, might know more than he does about football, specifically the 442 system and the value of his players in a team game that can't be run by stats alone, and certainly not stats without context.
Frankly he should have relied on his champion manager, not a kid playing Championship Manager.
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ... You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
I phoned this afternoon by mistake.
Still, I got my prescription made up and an appointment to see the chiropodist.
Only difference is that they have translated dom as dumb - I still prefer stupid.
Thank you for what you have done Weegie Addick. You have saved me a lot of work. Feel sorry that people have lifted your comments for their own use; without giving you any credit. I would have felt used as well.
The interview with RD was on (Flemish ) national television. It's a weekly talk show, covering different subjects, mainly political. Every week a sports related subject is highlighted, usually by interviewing someone well known. Every evening however, there's another talk show called "de afspraak" (rendezvous). Might I suggest someone (in English shouldn't be a problem) writes a little comment, perhaps even asking for an interview or an invite to either talk show ? They have a habit inviting people with opposing views on a certain matter. You might get lucky to explain your view on the decline of CAFC.
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ... You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
I've sent in the form...bit worried that my very rusty Dutch would not stand up to a TV interview, but well...
Might I suggest someone (in English shouldn't be a problem) writes a little comment, perhaps even asking for an interview or an invite to either talk show ? They have a habit inviting people with opposing views on a certain matter. You might get lucky to explain your view on the decline of CAFC.
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ... You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
May I suggest that a representative of CAST should contact the TV station
Might I suggest someone (in English shouldn't be a problem) writes a little comment, perhaps even asking for an interview or an invite to either talk show ? They have a habit inviting people with opposing views on a certain matter. You might get lucky to explain your view on the decline of CAFC.
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ... You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
May I suggest that a representative of CAST should contact the TV station
Last season, I was told from someone inside the club that they knew they'd got things wrong and that they would work to put things right. Sadly, for them, Roland doesn't give two figs for anyone but himself.
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This all sheds Robinson's appointment in a different light - although I was, at best, only 50/50. Bring on Nobby Vinegar... nothing else to lose.
This interview acts as further evidence that we're closer to our goal of removing Duchatalet than ever before. Keep up the pressure and it's a matter of time. He's cracking up.
Also, as an aside, is it any wonder Katrien comes out with the complete wafflebollocks that she does given her boss acts like this. She's actively encouraged to behave the way she does!
The remarks carry all the maturity of a 12yr old so there is little surprise there are of course a number of the dyed in the wool anti CARD, anti protest supporters who will embrace the comments.
I suppose at one level it does distract from the abysmal performance against Peterborough but can anyone tell me how the comments expressed in anyway progress the interests of the club?
To argue his comment might lose something in translation misses the point. If you propose to comment in public on issues surrounding a British organisation in a British Industry monitored by British media you had better make sure your comments are not open to misinterpretation.
It is called respecting the local market.
The entire dialogue talks to how narrow his thinking really is. For a supposed man of intellect he evidences precious little. In my experience people ofn intellect exhibit an expansive open mindset wishing to embrace and process all and any information. Indeed it is the joy of using their intellect to bring clarity and solutions to any given problem. Not quite there yet are we Roland?
Is the best response and the best way forward you can really offer to simply insult your critics? Most of us left such antics in the school playground.
Ratner apart, has any organisation ever so consistently embraced the concept of destroying its own credibility through friendly fire?
Others have commented in detail about the description of expertise of the prevailing coach but I recall this individual being previously described by M Duchatelet as a very good coach. A man whom he had only parted company with on the basis of a difference of opinion on the strategy going forward.
Now apparently he had less knowledge of the clubs' players (most of whom who had played for him for 3yrs) than a group of unconnected, anonymous and likely unqualified scouts.
The comments on player assessment stand no scrutiny at any level.
It again speaks to his inability to differentiate between the nature of expertise between someone who has spent their life in the English game and those who possess little or no understanding of that market. A man of intellect recognises when people are telling him things he wants to hear.
Can there be a more crushing indictment of the man that 3 years later in the face of quite frankly crushing failure he is still desperately trying to defend his actions but only succeeds in digging the hole he has created even deeper?
It appears he simply cannot look failure in the face, acknowledge and adjust. It is akin to those times after Christmas when the Credit Card Bills arrive and you really, really do not want to look and be reminded of how much you have spent.
How can any of this dialogue give any credibility to the assertion they have learned from their mistakes?
If he can make such comments in public we can only guess what goes on behind closed doors.
To those who appear desperate to believe there is a future under this regime I urge them to think again. Without a dramatic U turn the club is truly on the road to oblivion.
This latest communication indicates they simply refuse to learn - what a truly depressing experience.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/13708/charlton-owner-slams-fans-dumb-tv-club-legend-chris-powell/
Only difference is that they have translated dom as dumb - I still prefer stupid.
I'd love to debate that dishonest lying weak minded fool who is trying to re-write history and blame everybody else for his incompetence. Powell wasn't the world's greatest manager, but he doesn't deserve it. He is a club legend and I am still raging. I couldn't post earlier as AFKA would have had to remove it! Shouldn't the league sanction Duchatelet for these comments or are you allowed to be so offensive? Do we have to complain to them?
Legend for all the right reasons Douchbag, you lowlife
https://www.vrt.be/nl/contact/
Just tap "vul het contactformulier in" , fill in your data and comment .... and wait for a reaction. One never knows what will happen ...
You can also pick up the phone (AM only) 0032 2 741 25 80
There's a world of difference between receiving advice and acting on it, and part of that responsibility is to weigh whether its appropriate.
For Powell to determine the network players were neither what was needed nor good enough has been proved correct, not just by history but by the fact the very next boss didn't play them either.
The truth is that Duchatelet couldn't comprehend that Powell, a veteran of hundreds of games right to the highest level, and a title winning manager, might know more than he does about football, specifically the 442 system and the value of his players in a team game that can't be run by stats alone, and certainly not stats without context.
Frankly he should have relied on his champion manager, not a kid playing Championship Manager.
Still, I got my prescription made up and an appointment to see the chiropodist.
Vicky Pollard "Yeah, but, no, but"
#chavs
Knowing we will respond against him and thus when he does sell he can blame the fans and not his abject failure as an owner.
Anyway whatever please be be it sooner rather than later.
As I said in July, nothing has changed.
I hope we get the chance to reply!
We all know who the stupid person is.