I went to Bloomfield from 1955-1959 when were you there?...... bit before my time Johnny summer's. Mind you I doubt if Bloomfield changed much. Smith was the headmaster, I was there from 62-69. Spent 2 years in the 6th form to do 'A' level's. Kids could leave school at 14 in those days, and quite a few did. I had no desire to do a manual job, which is ironic as both my father and children have all ended up in the building trade!, but I really could not see me like the rest of the lads from the estate working in factories, working in the media, seemed so cool, and an idle'r like me it had an immediate attraction. photography, art, design, writing. And besides that when a mate's brother turned up to a party in Blackheath with 2 woman wrapped around him, and a 911 in the driveway....... and he was a graphic designer!....well, not really a hard choice was it......just think I should have been a carpenter, like my father, but of course I thought I knew best.
Yes Tom Smith was the head when I was there too, I left at the end of the 4th year at just 15. I also see you worked for Morgan Grampian, I worked for over 30 years at Austin Knight advertising, we use to put a lot of classified ads in your magazines, I remember they were in Essex Street wc2 before they moved to Woolwich
I remember my Mum and meeting up with my Gran in woolwich on a tuesday for a shopping trip and getting dragged along. Watching those pipe things in Cuffs that cashiers put the money in to sent the money elsewhere to save carrying it through the store. Freeman, Hardy and Willis what seemed like the biggest shoe shop in the world. Lyons Teahouse near to the Shakespeare where we would go for tea drunk out of cups and saucers, and a selection of cakes and if I'd behaved, a fresh cream one!!....... Its a bit much when your in your 20s, but I enjoyed it.
I can remember my Dad taking me to Cuffs and being amazed at the toy department, with all the glass display cabinets. My grandparents used to take me to the market and we used to watch the guy selling stuff on a big stall. He always used to have a big crowd watching him.
Yes Tom Smith was the head when I was there too, I left at the end of the 4th year at just 15. I also see you worked for Morgan Grampian, I worked for over 30 years at Austin Knight advertising, we use to put a lot of classified ads in your magazines, I remember they were in Essex Street wc2 before they moved to Woolwich
That would have been 'Nursing times' Mc Millian publishing yep, was the consultant art editor there for about 9 months trying to turn it around. Worked for Bob Findley @ Findley publications who were a great company in Horton Kirby, mostly ex MG staff. When I left them, went freelance to ~Dewberry publishing, who did Catering magazine, and the Financial Times Newspaper. Loved working for the FT, Daily newspaper, helped the Art Director convert the paper to DTP. MG became Miller Freeman, some of the titles are around but it was just money for me, unlike the other publications I have worked on, which I got very attached to. When Catering was sold to MG they had not paid me for the design, and I was working for the actual publisher at MG on a 'redesign' while on TTG. I resigned the commission, walked out and never worked for them again. Bob Findley was the complete opposite, lovely man, probably best publisher I worked for. Small world indeed.
Yes Tom Smith was the head when I was there too, I left at the end of the 4th year at just 15. I also see you worked for Morgan Grampian, I worked for over 30 years at Austin Knight advertising, we use to put a lot of classified ads in your magazines, I remember they were in Essex Street wc2 before they moved to Woolwich
That would have been 'Nursing times' Mc Millian publishing yep, was the consultant art editor there for about 9 months trying to turn it around. Worked for Bob Findley @ Findley publications who were a great company in Horton Kirby, mostly ex MG staff. When I left them, went freelance to ~Dewberry publishing, who did Catering magazine, and the Financial Times Newspaper. Loved working for the FT, Daily newspaper, helped the Art Director convert the paper to DTP. MG became Miller Freeman, some of the titles are around but it was just money for me, unlike the other publications I have worked on, which I got very attached to. When Catering was sold to MG they had not paid me for the design, and I was working for the actual publisher at MG on a 'redesign' while on TTG. I resigned the commission, walked out and never worked for them again. Bob Findley was the complete opposite, lovely man, probably best publisher I worked for. Small world indeed.
I think Nursing Times were in Little Essex St just of Essex St, Morgan Grampian were at the bottom of Essex St in the 60's
Believe it or not, all these pubs this were listed in the 1944 Post Office Directory. I realise Woolwich was a garrison town and probably not much beer available, it being war-time but........
Albion Hotel Rt Hy Kurn, 48 Woolwich Church Street Alma Sydney Geo Purcell, 48 Kings Highway Anglesea Arms, Albert Matthews, 91 Woolwich New Road Barrack Tavern, Wm T Peatling, 9 Woolwich Common Britannia, Stanley Cyril Crew, 64 Frances Street Bull Tavern, Alfred H Masters, 14 Vincent Road, Carpenters Arms, Mrs Lillian Matilda Cooke, 18 Woolwich High Street Castle, Wm Jas Batley, 179 Powis Street Clarence Arms, A E Porter, 69 Plumstead Road Congleton Arms, A E Thumwood, 117 Maxey Road SE18 Coopers arms, T W Plaisted & Co, 120 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Anchor, Jn Stanley, 33 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Cushion, Albert Courtney, 1 Market Hill, Woolwich High Street SE18 Director General, Leslie J Jameson, 55 Wellington Street SE18 Dover Castle, Harry Garrod, 91 Plumstead Road SE18 Duke of Sussex, Mrs Emma E McDonald, 30 Beresford Street SE18 Eagle Tavern, Fredk Joseph Foreman, 78 Red Lion Lane SE18 Earl of Chatham, Wm Hy Tarr, 15 Thomas Street SE18 Edinboro Arms, Edward R Stone, 110 Samuel Street SE18 Essex Arms, Percy Brazier, 52 Plumstead Road SE18 Fort Tavern, Rt B Thaine, 26 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Fortune of War, Frank Folkes, 40 Woolwich New Road SE18 Fountain, Mrs Amelia Raven, 132 Plumstead Road SE18 Fox & Hounds, Oswald Wallace Taylor, 57 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Fox under the Hill, Alfred Jn Needham, 286 Shooters Hill Road SE18 Freemasons Arms, Jn Flanagan, 35 Frederick Place SE18 General Havelock, Fras A Morgan, 136 Woolwich Church Street SE18 George IV, Mrs Eliz Chenery, 141 Kingsman Street SE18 Golden Cross, Chas Oliver Edwards, 12 Church Hill SE18 Green Man, Marytn Defries & Co Ltd, 67 Plumstead High Street SE18 Gun, Mrs Rose Graham, 97 Woolwich New Road SE18 Infant, Sidney W Henwood, 9 Plumstead Street SE18 Inverness Arms, Rd Self, 27 Invermore Place SE18 Kings Arms Hotel, Rt Morgan, 1 Frances Street SE18 Lord Bloomfield, Herbert Jas Buckland, 44 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Lord Clyde, Mrs Louisa Gower, 1 Brook Hill Road SE18 Lord Derby, Arth Roades, 89 Walmer Terrace SE18 Lord Howick, Hy Holte, Warspite Road SE18 Lord Panmure, Albert Arth Robinson, 107 Plumstead Road SE18 Lord Whitworth, Hy Chas Beckingham, 44 John Wilson street SE18 Melbourne Arms, Mrs Doris Burch, 81 & 83 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Mitre, David Wright, 145 Woolwich High Street SE18 Navy & Army, Hy J Weston, 23 Frances Street SE18 Navy Arms, R A Denman, 13 Samuel Street SE18 Nelson, Seth Dixon, 23 Kingsman Street SE18 North Pole, Ernest Ash, 26 Street Mary Street SE18 Old Mill, Mrs Emily Mary Hardwick, Old Mill Road SE18 Old Sheer Hulk, Arth Wm Bond, 194 Woolwich Church Street SE18 Ordnance Arms, Pioneer Catering Co Ltd, 18 Beresford Square SE18 Park Estate Tavern, Ian Randal St Clair Roberts, 40 Glyndon Road SE18 Percy Arms, Geo Hawkins, 187 Maxey Road SE18 Perseverance, Percy Chas Bishop, 1 Fenwick Street SE18 Plume of Feathers, Reginald N Pearce, 282 Plumstead High Street SE18 Prince Albert, E J Rose & Co, 49 Hare Street SE18 Prince Alfred, Mrs Grace L Barnes, 89 Raglan Road SE18 Prince of Orange, Thos Gilroy, 244 Plumstead High Road SE18 Queen Victoria Tavern, Sidney Amos Boisson, 118 Wellington Street SE18 Queens Arms, Timothy Wm James, 23 Burrage Road SE18 Railway Tavern, Albert Edward Hannaford, 131 Plumstead Road SE18 Red Lion, E E Whittle, 95 Plumstead High Street SE18 Red Lion, Miss Helen K Banister, Shooters Hill SE18 Rose & Crown, Albert Hy Edwards, 24 Plumstead High Street SE18 Royal Albert, Albert Edward Day, 63 Prospect Vale SE18 Royal Mortar Hotel, Levy & Franks Ltd, 1 Plumstead Road SE18 Royal Oak, T W Croft & Co Ltd, 27 Woolwich New Road SE18 Royal Oak, Wm Thos Ellis, Barnfield Road SE18 Royal Standard, Walter Clarke-Lawes, 104 Ann Street SE18 Salutation, E L Short & Co Ltd, 2 Beresford Square SE18 Shakespeare, Hy Dever Widdicombe & Thos E Brake, 12 Powis Street SE18 Sir Robert Peele, Arth Hy Lane, 62 Crescent Road SE18Star & Garter, Edward Chas Watts, 25 Pattison Road SE18 Star & Garter, Sydney Rt Sterrett, 112 Powis Street SE18 Star Inn, Geo Fras Heritage, 158 Plumstead Common Road E18 Star, Hy Percival Down, 84 Wellington Street SE18 Travellers Home Tavern, Jas Fredk Bodell, 34 Prospect Vale SE18 Village Blacksmith, Walter E Hender, 4 & 5 Hillreach SE18 Walmer Castle, W Selves, 34 Villas Road SE18 Walpole Arms, Mrs Daisy Hamlock, 83 Brook Hill Road SE18 Wellesley, Daniel McCarthy, 39 Hillreach SE18 White Swan Hotel, Hugh Taylor, Westow Hill SE18 Windsor Castle, W G Ellis, 36 Maxey Road SE18 Woodman, Jas Sidney Wade, 35 The Slade SE18
Believe it or not, all these pubs this were listed in the 1944 Post Office Directory. I realise Woolwich was a garrison town and probably not much beer available, it being war-time but........
Albion Hotel Rt Hy Kurn, 48 Woolwich Church Street Alma Sydney Geo Purcell, 48 Kings Highway Anglesea Arms, Albert Matthews, 91 Woolwich New Road Barrack Tavern, Wm T Peatling, 9 Woolwich Common Britannia, Stanley Cyril Crew, 64 Frances Street Bull Tavern, Alfred H Masters, 14 Vincent Road, Carpenters Arms, Mrs Lillian Matilda Cooke, 18 Woolwich High Street Castle, Wm Jas Batley, 179 Powis Street Clarence Arms, A E Porter, 69 Plumstead Road Congleton Arms, A E Thumwood, 117 Maxey Road SE18 Coopers arms, T W Plaisted & Co, 120 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Anchor, Jn Stanley, 33 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Cushion, Albert Courtney, 1 Market Hill, Woolwich High Street SE18 Director General, Leslie J Jameson, 55 Wellington Street SE18 Dover Castle, Harry Garrod, 91 Plumstead Road SE18 Duke of Sussex, Mrs Emma E McDonald, 30 Beresford Street SE18 Eagle Tavern, Fredk Joseph Foreman, 78 Red Lion Lane SE18 Earl of Chatham, Wm Hy Tarr, 15 Thomas Street SE18 Edinboro Arms, Edward R Stone, 110 Samuel Street SE18 Essex Arms, Percy Brazier, 52 Plumstead Road SE18 Fort Tavern, Rt B Thaine, 26 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Fortune of War, Frank Folkes, 40 Woolwich New Road SE18 Fountain, Mrs Amelia Raven, 132 Plumstead Road SE18 Fox & Hounds, Oswald Wallace Taylor, 57 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Fox under the Hill, Alfred Jn Needham, 286 Shooters Hill Road SE18 Freemasons Arms, Jn Flanagan, 35 Frederick Place SE18 General Havelock, Fras A Morgan, 136 Woolwich Church Street SE18 George IV, Mrs Eliz Chenery, 141 Kingsman Street SE18 Golden Cross, Chas Oliver Edwards, 12 Church Hill SE18 Green Man, Marytn Defries & Co Ltd, 67 Plumstead High Street SE18 Gun, Mrs Rose Graham, 97 Woolwich New Road SE18 Infant, Sidney W Henwood, 9 Plumstead Street SE18 Inverness Arms, Rd Self, 27 Invermore Place SE18 Kings Arms Hotel, Rt Morgan, 1 Frances Street SE18 Lord Bloomfield, Herbert Jas Buckland, 44 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Lord Clyde, Mrs Louisa Gower, 1 Brook Hill Road SE18 Lord Derby, Arth Roades, 89 Walmer Terrace SE18 Lord Howick, Hy Holte, Warspite Road SE18 Lord Panmure, Albert Arth Robinson, 107 Plumstead Road SE18 Lord Whitworth, Hy Chas Beckingham, 44 John Wilson street SE18 Melbourne Arms, Mrs Doris Burch, 81 & 83 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Mitre, David Wright, 145 Woolwich High Street SE18 Navy & Army, Hy J Weston, 23 Frances Street SE18 Navy Arms, R A Denman, 13 Samuel Street SE18 Nelson, Seth Dixon, 23 Kingsman Street SE18 North Pole, Ernest Ash, 26 Street Mary Street SE18 Old Mill, Mrs Emily Mary Hardwick, Old Mill Road SE18 Old Sheer Hulk, Arth Wm Bond, 194 Woolwich Church Street SE18 Ordnance Arms, Pioneer Catering Co Ltd, 18 Beresford Square SE18 Park Estate Tavern, Ian Randal St Clair Roberts, 40 Glyndon Road SE18 Percy Arms, Geo Hawkins, 187 Maxey Road SE18 Perseverance, Percy Chas Bishop, 1 Fenwick Street SE18 Plume of Feathers, Reginald N Pearce, 282 Plumstead High Street SE18 Prince Albert, E J Rose & Co, 49 Hare Street SE18 Prince Alfred, Mrs Grace L Barnes, 89 Raglan Road SE18 Prince of Orange, Thos Gilroy, 244 Plumstead High Road SE18 Queen Victoria Tavern, Sidney Amos Boisson, 118 Wellington Street SE18 Queens Arms, Timothy Wm James, 23 Burrage Road SE18 Railway Tavern, Albert Edward Hannaford, 131 Plumstead Road SE18 Red Lion, E E Whittle, 95 Plumstead High Street SE18 Red Lion, Miss Helen K Banister, Shooters Hill SE18 Rose & Crown, Albert Hy Edwards, 24 Plumstead High Street SE18 Royal Albert, Albert Edward Day, 63 Prospect Vale SE18 Royal Mortar Hotel, Levy & Franks Ltd, 1 Plumstead Road SE18 Royal Oak, T W Croft & Co Ltd, 27 Woolwich New Road SE18 Royal Oak, Wm Thos Ellis, Barnfield Road SE18 Royal Standard, Walter Clarke-Lawes, 104 Ann Street SE18 Salutation, E L Short & Co Ltd, 2 Beresford Square SE18 Shakespeare, Hy Dever Widdicombe & Thos E Brake, 12 Powis Street SE18 Sir Robert Peele, Arth Hy Lane, 62 Crescent Road SE18Star & Garter, Edward Chas Watts, 25 Pattison Road SE18 Star & Garter, Sydney Rt Sterrett, 112 Powis Street SE18 Star Inn, Geo Fras Heritage, 158 Plumstead Common Road E18 Star, Hy Percival Down, 84 Wellington Street SE18 Travellers Home Tavern, Jas Fredk Bodell, 34 Prospect Vale SE18 Village Blacksmith, Walter E Hender, 4 & 5 Hillreach SE18 Walmer Castle, W Selves, 34 Villas Road SE18 Walpole Arms, Mrs Daisy Hamlock, 83 Brook Hill Road SE18 Wellesley, Daniel McCarthy, 39 Hillreach SE18 White Swan Hotel, Hugh Taylor, Westow Hill SE18 Windsor Castle, W G Ellis, 36 Maxey Road SE18 Woodman, Jas Sidney Wade, 35 The Slade SE18
I bet there's only about ten left from that little list!
I can remember my Dad taking me to Cuffs and being amazed at the toy department, with all the glass display cabinets. My grandparents used to take me to the market and we used to watch the guy selling stuff on a big stall. He always used to have a big crowd watching him.
Blimey that guy was a salesman, he could outdo Del boy.
The stall was built up so that he was elevated above the crowd, he’d then mike himself up and put on a performance, it was true theatre. I seem to remember he had two or three runners down below and when he came to the end of his speil he’d chuck the boxes down to the runners who would deliver to the punters and collect their money. As he threw the boxes down he’d point randomly out and say ‘Young man over there, young lady over there, young man over there’ and it just seemed to whip the crowd up even more.
I even saw him encourage the crowd to take a gamble on a mystery box once. The deal was that whatever it was it would be worth a lot more than the few quid he was charging. But, purchasers would not be allowed to open it until they got home. He sold dozens of them. A guy near me started to open his box, but the stall holder spotted him and gave him a right rollicking, reminding him of the gentleman’s agreement they had. The guy meekly resealed his box. (I was really disappointed - wished I’d bought one myself now).
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
Believe it or not, all these pubs this were listed in the 1944 Post Office Directory. I realise Woolwich was a garrison town and probably not much beer available, it being war-time but........
Albion Hotel Rt Hy Kurn, 48 Woolwich Church Street Alma Sydney Geo Purcell, 48 Kings Highway Anglesea Arms, Albert Matthews, 91 Woolwich New Road Barrack Tavern, Wm T Peatling, 9 Woolwich Common Britannia, Stanley Cyril Crew, 64 Frances Street Bull Tavern, Alfred H Masters, 14 Vincent Road, Carpenters Arms, Mrs Lillian Matilda Cooke, 18 Woolwich High Street Castle, Wm Jas Batley, 179 Powis Street Clarence Arms, A E Porter, 69 Plumstead Road Congleton Arms, A E Thumwood, 117 Maxey Road SE18 Coopers arms, T W Plaisted & Co, 120 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Anchor, Jn Stanley, 33 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Cushion, Albert Courtney, 1 Market Hill, Woolwich High Street SE18 Director General, Leslie J Jameson, 55 Wellington Street SE18 Dover Castle, Harry Garrod, 91 Plumstead Road SE18 Duke of Sussex, Mrs Emma E McDonald, 30 Beresford Street SE18 Eagle Tavern, Fredk Joseph Foreman, 78 Red Lion Lane SE18 Earl of Chatham, Wm Hy Tarr, 15 Thomas Street SE18 Edinboro Arms, Edward R Stone, 110 Samuel Street SE18 Essex Arms, Percy Brazier, 52 Plumstead Road SE18 Fort Tavern, Rt B Thaine, 26 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Fortune of War, Frank Folkes, 40 Woolwich New Road SE18 Fountain, Mrs Amelia Raven, 132 Plumstead Road SE18 Fox & Hounds, Oswald Wallace Taylor, 57 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Fox under the Hill, Alfred Jn Needham, 286 Shooters Hill Road SE18 Freemasons Arms, Jn Flanagan, 35 Frederick Place SE18 General Havelock, Fras A Morgan, 136 Woolwich Church Street SE18 George IV, Mrs Eliz Chenery, 141 Kingsman Street SE18 Golden Cross, Chas Oliver Edwards, 12 Church Hill SE18 Green Man, Marytn Defries & Co Ltd, 67 Plumstead High Street SE18 Gun, Mrs Rose Graham, 97 Woolwich New Road SE18 Infant, Sidney W Henwood, 9 Plumstead Street SE18 Inverness Arms, Rd Self, 27 Invermore Place SE18 Kings Arms Hotel, Rt Morgan, 1 Frances Street SE18 Lord Bloomfield, Herbert Jas Buckland, 44 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Lord Clyde, Mrs Louisa Gower, 1 Brook Hill Road SE18 Lord Derby, Arth Roades, 89 Walmer Terrace SE18 Lord Howick, Hy Holte, Warspite Road SE18 Lord Panmure, Albert Arth Robinson, 107 Plumstead Road SE18 Lord Whitworth, Hy Chas Beckingham, 44 John Wilson street SE18 Melbourne Arms, Mrs Doris Burch, 81 & 83 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Mitre, David Wright, 145 Woolwich High Street SE18 Navy & Army, Hy J Weston, 23 Frances Street SE18 Navy Arms, R A Denman, 13 Samuel Street SE18 Nelson, Seth Dixon, 23 Kingsman Street SE18 North Pole, Ernest Ash, 26 Street Mary Street SE18 Old Mill, Mrs Emily Mary Hardwick, Old Mill Road SE18 Old Sheer Hulk, Arth Wm Bond, 194 Woolwich Church Street SE18 Ordnance Arms, Pioneer Catering Co Ltd, 18 Beresford Square SE18 Park Estate Tavern, Ian Randal St Clair Roberts, 40 Glyndon Road SE18 Percy Arms, Geo Hawkins, 187 Maxey Road SE18 Perseverance, Percy Chas Bishop, 1 Fenwick Street SE18 Plume of Feathers, Reginald N Pearce, 282 Plumstead High Street SE18 Prince Albert, E J Rose & Co, 49 Hare Street SE18 Prince Alfred, Mrs Grace L Barnes, 89 Raglan Road SE18 Prince of Orange, Thos Gilroy, 244 Plumstead High Road SE18 Queen Victoria Tavern, Sidney Amos Boisson, 118 Wellington Street SE18 Queens Arms, Timothy Wm James, 23 Burrage Road SE18 Railway Tavern, Albert Edward Hannaford, 131 Plumstead Road SE18 Red Lion, E E Whittle, 95 Plumstead High Street SE18 Red Lion, Miss Helen K Banister, Shooters Hill SE18 Rose & Crown, Albert Hy Edwards, 24 Plumstead High Street SE18 Royal Albert, Albert Edward Day, 63 Prospect Vale SE18 Royal Mortar Hotel, Levy & Franks Ltd, 1 Plumstead Road SE18 Royal Oak, T W Croft & Co Ltd, 27 Woolwich New Road SE18 Royal Oak, Wm Thos Ellis, Barnfield Road SE18 Royal Standard, Walter Clarke-Lawes, 104 Ann Street SE18 Salutation, E L Short & Co Ltd, 2 Beresford Square SE18 Shakespeare, Hy Dever Widdicombe & Thos E Brake, 12 Powis Street SE18 Sir Robert Peele, Arth Hy Lane, 62 Crescent Road SE18Star & Garter, Edward Chas Watts, 25 Pattison Road SE18 Star & Garter, Sydney Rt Sterrett, 112 Powis Street SE18 Star Inn, Geo Fras Heritage, 158 Plumstead Common Road E18 Star, Hy Percival Down, 84 Wellington Street SE18 Travellers Home Tavern, Jas Fredk Bodell, 34 Prospect Vale SE18 Village Blacksmith, Walter E Hender, 4 & 5 Hillreach SE18 Walmer Castle, W Selves, 34 Villas Road SE18 Walpole Arms, Mrs Daisy Hamlock, 83 Brook Hill Road SE18 Wellesley, Daniel McCarthy, 39 Hillreach SE18 White Swan Hotel, Hugh Taylor, Westow Hill SE18 Windsor Castle, W G Ellis, 36 Maxey Road SE18 Woodman, Jas Sidney Wade, 35 The Slade SE18
I bet there's only about ten left from that little list!
Some great pubs from my youth and beyond.
My aunt lived round the back of the Fox Under the Hill.
We used to drink under age in the Alma - my mate was a regular there, including drinking with his dad. The old landlady was a bit surprised at my mate celebrating his 18th birthday there
I had my first real lock in at the Plume of Feathers - I'm sure that the pub was full of coppers from Plumstead.
The DG and Crown and Cushion were pubs we drank in when I worked in the Royal Arsenal.
A special mention for the Earl of Chatham - a group of us took the afternoon off to drink when they introduced all day drinking. Unbelievable nowadays but it was such a big deal then,
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
The Salutation in Beresford Square is now the Elephant & Castle too
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
Fort Tavern has been closed for a number of years
Definitely the case. Is the Melbourne Arms still open? Also on that list there's no Who'd o thought it. Is that a relatively new pub (in relation to the 1944 list) or was it called something else?
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
Fort Tavern has been closed for a number of years
Definitely the case. Is the Melbourne Arms still open? Also on that list there's no Who'd o thought it. Is that a relatively new pub (in relation to the 1944 list) or was it called something else?
The Melbourne arms is still open, as are The Castle in Powis St and Plume of Feathers in Plumstead High St.
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
The Salutation in Beresford Square is now the Elephant & Castle too
The Salutation we always called The Sally was on the higher pavement in Beresford Square next door to where Iceland is now, that was the Century cinema in those days closed about 1961 and the Sally closed a few years later, Bull Tavern in Vincent Rd is still open
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
The Salutation in Beresford Square is now the Elephant & Castle too
The Salutation we always called The Sally was on the higher pavement in Beresford Square next door to where Iceland is now, that was the Century cinema in those days closed about 1961 and the Sally closed a few years later, Bull Tavern in Vincent Rd is still open
My error ! In that case, the Elephant must be newer than 1944 ?
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
The Salutation in Beresford Square is now the Elephant & Castle too
The Salutation we always called The Sally was on the higher pavement in Beresford Square next door to where Iceland is now, that was the Century cinema in those days closed about 1961 and the Sally closed a few years later, Bull Tavern in Vincent Rd is still open
My error ! In that case, the Elephant must be newer than 1944 ?
I don't think all the pubs are on that list Alan, Elephant was there in the 50's, I used to drink in the Sussex on the corner of Maxey Road and Plumstead Road that was a big pub had a snooker table as well, where some big bets used to get laid as there was some very good snooker players got in there. And that is not on the list.
Anglesea Arms, Earl of Chatham, Fort Tavern, Fox under the Hill, George IV, Ordnance Arms, Prince Albert is now Rose Inn ? These are still going I think.
The Salutation in Beresford Square is now the Elephant & Castle too
The Salutation we always called The Sally was on the higher pavement in Beresford Square next door to where Iceland is now, that was the Century cinema in those days closed about 1961 and the Sally closed a few years later, Bull Tavern in Vincent Rd is still open
My error ! In that case, the Elephant must be newer than 1944 ?
I don't think all the pubs are on that list Alan, Elephant was there in the 50's, I used to drink in the Sussex on the corner of Maxey Road and Plumstead Road that was a big pub had a snooker table as well, where some big bets used to get laid as there was some very good snooker players got in there. And that is not on the list.
Fair point. Incredible to think that list should be even longer !
I can remember my Dad taking me to Cuffs and being amazed at the toy department, with all the glass display cabinets. My grandparents used to take me to the market and we used to watch the guy selling stuff on a big stall. He always used to have a big crowd watching him.
I have an image of @AFKABartram shouting "yesssssss" and pumping his fists that you've said @ElfsborgAddick and not him as the "little supporter"!!!!!!
I can remember my Dad taking me to Cuffs and being amazed at the toy department, with all the glass display cabinets. My grandparents used to take me to the market and we used to watch the guy selling stuff on a big stall. He always used to have a big crowd watching him.
I have an image of @AFKABartram shouting "yesssssss" and pumping his fists that you've said @ElfsborgAddick and not him as the "little supporter"!!!!!!
Believe it or not, all these pubs this were listed in the 1944 Post Office Directory. I realise Woolwich was a garrison town and probably not much beer available, it being war-time but........
Albion Hotel Rt Hy Kurn, 48 Woolwich Church Street Alma Sydney Geo Purcell, 48 Kings Highway Anglesea Arms, Albert Matthews, 91 Woolwich New Road Barrack Tavern, Wm T Peatling, 9 Woolwich Common Britannia, Stanley Cyril Crew, 64 Frances Street Bull Tavern, Alfred H Masters, 14 Vincent Road, Carpenters Arms, Mrs Lillian Matilda Cooke, 18 Woolwich High Street Castle, Wm Jas Batley, 179 Powis Street Clarence Arms, A E Porter, 69 Plumstead Road Congleton Arms, A E Thumwood, 117 Maxey Road SE18 Coopers arms, T W Plaisted & Co, 120 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Anchor, Jn Stanley, 33 Woolwich High Street SE18 Crown & Cushion, Albert Courtney, 1 Market Hill, Woolwich High Street SE18 Director General, Leslie J Jameson, 55 Wellington Street SE18 Dover Castle, Harry Garrod, 91 Plumstead Road SE18 Duke of Sussex, Mrs Emma E McDonald, 30 Beresford Street SE18 Eagle Tavern, Fredk Joseph Foreman, 78 Red Lion Lane SE18 Earl of Chatham, Wm Hy Tarr, 15 Thomas Street SE18 Edinboro Arms, Edward R Stone, 110 Samuel Street SE18 Essex Arms, Percy Brazier, 52 Plumstead Road SE18 Fort Tavern, Rt B Thaine, 26 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Fortune of War, Frank Folkes, 40 Woolwich New Road SE18 Fountain, Mrs Amelia Raven, 132 Plumstead Road SE18 Fox & Hounds, Oswald Wallace Taylor, 57 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Fox under the Hill, Alfred Jn Needham, 286 Shooters Hill Road SE18 Freemasons Arms, Jn Flanagan, 35 Frederick Place SE18 General Havelock, Fras A Morgan, 136 Woolwich Church Street SE18 George IV, Mrs Eliz Chenery, 141 Kingsman Street SE18 Golden Cross, Chas Oliver Edwards, 12 Church Hill SE18 Green Man, Marytn Defries & Co Ltd, 67 Plumstead High Street SE18 Gun, Mrs Rose Graham, 97 Woolwich New Road SE18 Infant, Sidney W Henwood, 9 Plumstead Street SE18 Inverness Arms, Rd Self, 27 Invermore Place SE18 Kings Arms Hotel, Rt Morgan, 1 Frances Street SE18 Lord Bloomfield, Herbert Jas Buckland, 44 Plumstead Common Road SE18 Lord Clyde, Mrs Louisa Gower, 1 Brook Hill Road SE18 Lord Derby, Arth Roades, 89 Walmer Terrace SE18 Lord Howick, Hy Holte, Warspite Road SE18 Lord Panmure, Albert Arth Robinson, 107 Plumstead Road SE18 Lord Whitworth, Hy Chas Beckingham, 44 John Wilson street SE18 Melbourne Arms, Mrs Doris Burch, 81 & 83 Sandy Hill Road SE18 Mitre, David Wright, 145 Woolwich High Street SE18 Navy & Army, Hy J Weston, 23 Frances Street SE18 Navy Arms, R A Denman, 13 Samuel Street SE18 Nelson, Seth Dixon, 23 Kingsman Street SE18 North Pole, Ernest Ash, 26 Street Mary Street SE18 Old Mill, Mrs Emily Mary Hardwick, Old Mill Road SE18 Old Sheer Hulk, Arth Wm Bond, 194 Woolwich Church Street SE18 Ordnance Arms, Pioneer Catering Co Ltd, 18 Beresford Square SE18 Park Estate Tavern, Ian Randal St Clair Roberts, 40 Glyndon Road SE18 Percy Arms, Geo Hawkins, 187 Maxey Road SE18 Perseverance, Percy Chas Bishop, 1 Fenwick Street SE18 Plume of Feathers, Reginald N Pearce, 282 Plumstead High Street SE18 Prince Albert, E J Rose & Co, 49 Hare Street SE18 Prince Alfred, Mrs Grace L Barnes, 89 Raglan Road SE18 Prince of Orange, Thos Gilroy, 244 Plumstead High Road SE18 Queen Victoria Tavern, Sidney Amos Boisson, 118 Wellington Street SE18 Queens Arms, Timothy Wm James, 23 Burrage Road SE18 Railway Tavern, Albert Edward Hannaford, 131 Plumstead Road SE18 Red Lion, E E Whittle, 95 Plumstead High Street SE18 Red Lion, Miss Helen K Banister, Shooters Hill SE18 Rose & Crown, Albert Hy Edwards, 24 Plumstead High Street SE18 Royal Albert, Albert Edward Day, 63 Prospect Vale SE18 Royal Mortar Hotel, Levy & Franks Ltd, 1 Plumstead Road SE18 Royal Oak, T W Croft & Co Ltd, 27 Woolwich New Road SE18 Royal Oak, Wm Thos Ellis, Barnfield Road SE18 Royal Standard, Walter Clarke-Lawes, 104 Ann Street SE18 Salutation, E L Short & Co Ltd, 2 Beresford Square SE18 Shakespeare, Hy Dever Widdicombe & Thos E Brake, 12 Powis Street SE18 Sir Robert Peele, Arth Hy Lane, 62 Crescent Road SE18Star & Garter, Edward Chas Watts, 25 Pattison Road SE18 Star & Garter, Sydney Rt Sterrett, 112 Powis Street SE18 Star Inn, Geo Fras Heritage, 158 Plumstead Common Road E18 Star, Hy Percival Down, 84 Wellington Street SE18 Travellers Home Tavern, Jas Fredk Bodell, 34 Prospect Vale SE18 Village Blacksmith, Walter E Hender, 4 & 5 Hillreach SE18 Walmer Castle, W Selves, 34 Villas Road SE18 Walpole Arms, Mrs Daisy Hamlock, 83 Brook Hill Road SE18 Wellesley, Daniel McCarthy, 39 Hillreach SE18 White Swan Hotel, Hugh Taylor, Westow Hill SE18 Windsor Castle, W G Ellis, 36 Maxey Road SE18 Woodman, Jas Sidney Wade, 35 The Slade SE18
Gosh. That was the pub for my dad and his mates. We kids used to sit on the step outside for blimmin ages with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps with the salt in a blue twist of paper. All the men called that pub the 'Percy'. I distinctly remember going there with everybody after that Good Friday morning win 4-1 against Cardiff, when the whole world seemed glorious.
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Mind you I doubt if Bloomfield changed much.
Smith was the headmaster, I was there from 62-69.
Spent 2 years in the 6th form to do 'A' level's. Kids could leave school at 14 in those days, and quite a few did. I had no desire to do a manual job, which is ironic as both my father and children have all ended up in the building trade!, but I really could not see me like the rest of the lads from the estate working in factories, working in the media, seemed so cool, and an idle'r like me it had an immediate attraction. photography, art, design, writing. And besides that when a mate's brother turned up to a party in Blackheath with 2 woman wrapped around him, and a 911 in the driveway....... and he was a graphic designer!....well, not really a hard choice was it......just think I should have been a carpenter, like my father, but of course I thought I knew best.
I also see you worked for Morgan Grampian, I worked for over 30 years at Austin Knight advertising, we use to put a lot of classified ads in your magazines, I remember they were in Essex Street wc2 before they moved to Woolwich
I resigned the commission, walked out and never worked for them again. Bob Findley was the complete opposite, lovely man, probably best publisher I worked for. Small world indeed.
Albion Hotel Rt Hy Kurn, 48 Woolwich Church Street
Alma Sydney Geo Purcell, 48 Kings Highway
Anglesea Arms, Albert Matthews, 91 Woolwich New Road
Barrack Tavern, Wm T Peatling, 9 Woolwich Common
Britannia, Stanley Cyril Crew, 64 Frances Street
Bull Tavern, Alfred H Masters, 14 Vincent Road,
Carpenters Arms, Mrs Lillian Matilda Cooke, 18 Woolwich High Street
Castle, Wm Jas Batley, 179 Powis Street
Clarence Arms, A E Porter, 69 Plumstead Road
Congleton Arms, A E Thumwood, 117 Maxey Road SE18
Coopers arms, T W Plaisted & Co, 120 Woolwich High Street SE18
Crown & Anchor, Jn Stanley, 33 Woolwich High Street SE18
Crown & Cushion, Albert Courtney, 1 Market Hill, Woolwich High Street SE18
Director General, Leslie J Jameson, 55 Wellington Street SE18
Dover Castle, Harry Garrod, 91 Plumstead Road SE18
Duke of Sussex, Mrs Emma E McDonald, 30 Beresford Street SE18
Eagle Tavern, Fredk Joseph Foreman, 78 Red Lion Lane SE18
Earl of Chatham, Wm Hy Tarr, 15 Thomas Street SE18
Edinboro Arms, Edward R Stone, 110 Samuel Street SE18
Essex Arms, Percy Brazier, 52 Plumstead Road SE18
Fort Tavern, Rt B Thaine, 26 Sandy Hill Road SE18
Fortune of War, Frank Folkes, 40 Woolwich New Road SE18
Fountain, Mrs Amelia Raven, 132 Plumstead Road SE18
Fox & Hounds, Oswald Wallace Taylor, 57 Plumstead Common Road SE18
Fox under the Hill, Alfred Jn Needham, 286 Shooters Hill Road SE18
Freemasons Arms, Jn Flanagan, 35 Frederick Place SE18
General Havelock, Fras A Morgan, 136 Woolwich Church Street SE18
George IV, Mrs Eliz Chenery, 141 Kingsman Street SE18
Golden Cross, Chas Oliver Edwards, 12 Church Hill SE18
Green Man, Marytn Defries & Co Ltd, 67 Plumstead High Street SE18
Gun, Mrs Rose Graham, 97 Woolwich New Road SE18
Infant, Sidney W Henwood, 9 Plumstead Street SE18
Inverness Arms, Rd Self, 27 Invermore Place SE18
Kings Arms Hotel, Rt Morgan, 1 Frances Street SE18
Lord Bloomfield, Herbert Jas Buckland, 44 Plumstead Common Road SE18
Lord Clyde, Mrs Louisa Gower, 1 Brook Hill Road SE18
Lord Derby, Arth Roades, 89 Walmer Terrace SE18
Lord Howick, Hy Holte, Warspite Road SE18
Lord Panmure, Albert Arth Robinson, 107 Plumstead Road SE18
Lord Whitworth, Hy Chas Beckingham, 44 John Wilson street SE18
Melbourne Arms, Mrs Doris Burch, 81 & 83 Sandy Hill Road SE18
Mitre, David Wright, 145 Woolwich High Street SE18
Navy & Army, Hy J Weston, 23 Frances Street SE18
Navy Arms, R A Denman, 13 Samuel Street SE18
Nelson, Seth Dixon, 23 Kingsman Street SE18
North Pole, Ernest Ash, 26 Street Mary Street SE18
Old Mill, Mrs Emily Mary Hardwick, Old Mill Road SE18
Old Sheer Hulk, Arth Wm Bond, 194 Woolwich Church Street SE18
Ordnance Arms, Pioneer Catering Co Ltd, 18 Beresford Square SE18
Park Estate Tavern, Ian Randal St Clair Roberts, 40 Glyndon Road SE18
Percy Arms, Geo Hawkins, 187 Maxey Road SE18
Perseverance, Percy Chas Bishop, 1 Fenwick Street SE18
Plume of Feathers, Reginald N Pearce, 282 Plumstead High Street SE18
Prince Albert, E J Rose & Co, 49 Hare Street SE18
Prince Alfred, Mrs Grace L Barnes, 89 Raglan Road SE18
Prince of Orange, Thos Gilroy, 244 Plumstead High Road SE18
Queen Victoria Tavern, Sidney Amos Boisson, 118 Wellington Street SE18
Queens Arms, Timothy Wm James, 23 Burrage Road SE18
Railway Tavern, Albert Edward Hannaford, 131 Plumstead Road SE18
Red Lion, E E Whittle, 95 Plumstead High Street SE18
Red Lion, Miss Helen K Banister, Shooters Hill SE18
Rose & Crown, Albert Hy Edwards, 24 Plumstead High Street SE18
Royal Albert, Albert Edward Day, 63 Prospect Vale SE18
Royal Mortar Hotel, Levy & Franks Ltd, 1 Plumstead Road SE18
Royal Oak, T W Croft & Co Ltd, 27 Woolwich New Road SE18
Royal Oak, Wm Thos Ellis, Barnfield Road SE18
Royal Standard, Walter Clarke-Lawes, 104 Ann Street SE18
Salutation, E L Short & Co Ltd, 2 Beresford Square SE18
Shakespeare, Hy Dever Widdicombe & Thos E Brake, 12 Powis Street SE18
Sir Robert Peele, Arth Hy Lane, 62 Crescent Road SE18Star & Garter, Edward Chas Watts, 25 Pattison Road SE18
Star & Garter, Sydney Rt Sterrett, 112 Powis Street SE18
Star Inn, Geo Fras Heritage, 158 Plumstead Common Road E18
Star, Hy Percival Down, 84 Wellington Street SE18
Travellers Home Tavern, Jas Fredk Bodell, 34 Prospect Vale SE18
Village Blacksmith, Walter E Hender, 4 & 5 Hillreach SE18
Walmer Castle, W Selves, 34 Villas Road SE18
Walpole Arms, Mrs Daisy Hamlock, 83 Brook Hill Road SE18
Wellesley, Daniel McCarthy, 39 Hillreach SE18
White Swan Hotel, Hugh Taylor, Westow Hill SE18
Windsor Castle, W G Ellis, 36 Maxey Road SE18
Woodman, Jas Sidney Wade, 35 The Slade SE18
NT were in Little Essex street, went back to Greater London house when they were part of emap on NT.
The stall was built up so that he was elevated above the crowd, he’d then mike himself up and put on a performance, it was true theatre. I seem to remember he had two or three runners down below and when he came to the end of his speil he’d chuck the boxes down to the runners who would deliver to the punters and collect their money. As he threw the boxes down he’d point randomly out and say ‘Young man over there, young lady over there, young man over there’ and it just seemed to whip the crowd up even more.
I even saw him encourage the crowd to take a gamble on a mystery box once. The deal was that whatever it was it would be worth a lot more than the few quid he was charging. But, purchasers would not be allowed to open it until they got home. He sold dozens of them. A guy near me started to open his box, but the stall holder spotted him and gave him a right rollicking, reminding him of the gentleman’s agreement they had. The guy meekly resealed his box. (I was really disappointed - wished I’d bought one myself now).
My aunt lived round the back of the Fox Under the Hill.
We used to drink under age in the Alma - my mate was a regular there, including drinking with his dad. The old landlady was a bit surprised at my mate celebrating his 18th birthday there
I had my first real lock in at the Plume of Feathers - I'm sure that the pub was full of coppers from Plumstead.
The DG and Crown and Cushion were pubs we drank in when I worked in the Royal Arsenal.
A special mention for the Earl of Chatham - a group of us took the afternoon off to drink when they introduced all day drinking. Unbelievable nowadays but it was such a big deal then,
Is the Melbourne Arms still open?
Also on that list there's no Who'd o thought it. Is that a relatively new pub (in relation to the 1944 list) or was it called something else?
Bull Tavern in Vincent Rd is still open
And that is not on the list.
We kids used to sit on the step outside for blimmin ages with a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps with the salt in a blue twist of paper.
All the men called that pub the 'Percy'.
I distinctly remember going there with everybody after that Good Friday morning win 4-1 against Cardiff, when the whole world seemed glorious.
http://pubshistory.com/London1944/London1944SE18.shtml