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  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,716
    edited February 2022
    Derek1952 said:
    As you will know some scenes of the film Blowup with David were filmed in Maryon Park. Did anyone see the filming.
    Granada Woolwich, I saw Gene Vincent and Brenda Lee there dont remember the year, I would think early sixties. Still have the programme,but no date as it was a tour.
    @Derek1952 - yes I was there as a 6 year old taken by my lovely neighbour who was 10 - those were the days, just get out and come home when its dark !
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,184
    Belvedere in 1955 was very much a village.  The police station has now been replaced with a block of flats.



    My office now is the OLD Belvedere Police Station
  • Belvedere in 1955 was very much a village.  The police station has now been replaced with a block of flats.



    Upper Belvedere and Lower Belvedere are very different beasts aren't they
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,184
    Belvedere in 1955 was very much a village.  The police station has now been replaced with a block of flats.



    Upper Belvedere and Lower Belvedere are very different beasts aren't they
    The NEW Police Station was knocked down about 18months ago and replaced with flats, The OLD Police station is the DVSA Driving test centre and Upstairs is my Office
  • Belvedere in 1955 was very much a village.  The police station has now been replaced with a block of flats.



    Upper Belvedere and Lower Belvedere are very different beasts aren't they
    The NEW Police Station was knocked down about 18months ago and replaced with flats, The OLD Police station is the DVSA Driving test centre and Upstairs is my Office
    My octogenarian neighbour told me he was bombed out of the house just down from the driving school in the war.  He also informed me the school in the photo was actually an annex to the secondary school - and he should know cos he went there. I do love living history  :)

    I'd never even heard of Belvedere when I was a kid (living 10 miles away).  I think it would have been like a visit to the country though with the village and surrounding market gardens.   
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    Belvedere in 1955 was very much a village.  The police station has now been replaced with a block of flats.



    Wow, it looks really different, but the most obvious thing is how few vehicles there are. I can't actually see any on the entire photo, and there are so many more trees. 
    I used to go to the dentists in one of the big old houses up Picardy Rd, Mrs Mandl, who was Polish if I remember right. 
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Going for a night out in Woolwich Friday night! If I get negative tests in time.

    To Woolwich Works. In the Fireworks Factory, No. 1 Street. Anyone been?

    Despite my old age I'm going to see Afrikan Boy "one of the most exciting talent to ever come out of Woolwich", though I'm not sure it's a long list. Have seen him before and he is brilliant.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315


    Yes lads
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    edited August 2023
    Onlyme said:
    All my mates had their Tattoos done there, they said that he was blind as a bat!!!
    Pissed as a fart as well ha
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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    OPEN LINES

    25 August | 7pm | General Gordon Square, Woolwich, SE18 6AB

    Duration: 45mins

    Free

    One woman. One high wire. High above you.

    https://www.enjoyroyalgreenwich.org.uk/whats-on/gdif-2023-opening-night-open-lines-p1962911

    https://festival.org/gdif/whats-on/open-lines/

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Woolwich Pigeon had best keep the mischief to a minimum 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,261
    At a place previously known for firework fights. What could possibly go wrong!

    (I'm sure nothing will this time and good luck to her)
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    At a place previously known for firework fights. What could possibly go wrong!

    (I'm sure nothing will this time and good luck to her)
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2022/11/01/quiet-halloween-in-fenced-off-woolwich-but-firework-fights-hit-greenwich-peninsula/
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Film of the high wire walk in Woolwich.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iA9yP-hLAw
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    edited September 2023
    https://x.com/greenwich_wire/status/1706644301235552549?s=46&t=l3gVPecVjs4wU2WBKFZZyw

    Greenwich Council has ordered a developer to demolish two riverside towers next to the Woolwich Ferry after breaches of planning permission
  • Assume the developer will go bust. No idea what would happen if that's the case.
  • https://x.com/greenwich_wire/status/1706644301235552549?s=46&t=l3gVPecVjs4wU2WBKFZZyw

    Greenwich Council has ordered a developer to demolish two riverside towers next to the Woolwich Ferry after breaches of planning permission
    Did no one notice it was not as approved when it was being built and before people moved in? 
  • https://x.com/greenwich_wire/status/1706644301235552549?s=46&t=l3gVPecVjs4wU2WBKFZZyw

    Greenwich Council has ordered a developer to demolish two riverside towers next to the Woolwich Ferry after breaches of planning permission
    Be very interested to hear @Airman Brown take on this. I know zip about this subject but could Greenwich Council have their decision overturned by The DoE ? Lots of homes lost there and perhaps a few “names” losing their shirts ? 
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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Woolwich: Developers ordered to demolish 'mutant' apartment blocks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66934296
  • https://x.com/greenwich_wire/status/1706644301235552549?s=46&t=l3gVPecVjs4wU2WBKFZZyw

    Greenwich Council has ordered a developer to demolish two riverside towers next to the Woolwich Ferry after breaches of planning permission
    Be very interested to hear @Airman Brown take on this. I know zip about this subject but could Greenwich Council have their decision overturned by The DoE ? Lots of homes lost there and perhaps a few “names” losing their shirts ? 
    The developer can appeal to the Planning Inspectorate, who will decide if the Enforcement Notice from Greenwich was correct. Any enforcement action is put on hold whilst the Inspector carries out this work, which seems to take around 6 to 9 months at the moment from what I understand. My guess is the Inspector will suggest that various changes can make the building acceptable, but who knows. 
  • They not going to make them knock it down - we have a housing crisis in London. 

    presume Greenwich have taken a tough line to 1. Get some nice PR out of it
    2. ensure the developer coughs up to make the required changes with the minimum of fuss 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Knocking down flats people are living in does seem pretty extreme in these circumstances. Hopefully just a negotiating posture by RBG. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    I assume some of the flats have been sold, so demolition would be even the more difficult? I suspect common sense will prevail and changes made without the need to demolish.
  • Rob7Lee said:
    I assume some of the flats have been sold, so demolition would be even the more difficult? I suspect common sense will prevail and changes made without the need to demolish.
    In normal circumstances yes, but this is Greenwich!
  • Rob7Lee said:
    I assume some of the flats have been sold, so demolition would be even the more difficult? I suspect common sense will prevail and changes made without the need to demolish.

    It was a build to rent scheme funded by Investec with £36M of debt so almost certainly the developer still owns the lot and rents them out.  

    https://www.developmentfinancetoday.co.uk/article-desc-8238_Investec completes £36m loan for Comer Homes residential development in London

    As others have said I am sure there will end up a compromise where it is not demolished though.

    Really poor form from the developer to ignore and carry on, and woeful monitoring by the bank who should have been monitoring the development and stopped drawdowns months or years ago.
  • Rob7Lee said:
    I assume some of the flats have been sold, so demolition would be even the more difficult? I suspect common sense will prevail and changes made without the need to demolish.
    In normal circumstances yes, but this is Greenwich!
    Perhaps the residents could start a political party.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    Basically got planning permission 10 years ago, didn't start building for 3 or 4 years, then built them and essentially said sod what we planned, we've done all of this differently. Only asked for retrospective planning permission when they got found out, and some of the things they've done sound properly messed up like accessible flats not having step free access to their own balcony, tarmac-ing over a big space that was meant to be the gardens, and completely changing the facade of the building. 

    May seem drastic to order them to pull them down but what's the difference between that and someone being ordered to tear down an extension to their house if they build without planning permission? 

    Might act as a deterrent to other cowboy building companies 
  • The difference is that this would make all of the residents homeless.