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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cant believe he's been out of Management for four years now.

    Feels a bit like when Dave Jones went to Hartlepool

    Question if he has the right approach for League Two Football at that level.
    Unlike Adkins or Jones, Hughes has no experience of lower league football.

    All but one of his playing season were at the top flight, ditto his club management career has all been in the PL.

    A longish term project too, seeing that it's almost certainly too late for a promotion push this season
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,430
    League One strugglers Morecambe have reappointed Derek Adams as manager, less than nine months after he left the club to join Bradford City.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60506755
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,286
    killerandflash said:
    Grant McCann will return to Peterborough for his second spell there as manager
    Him and Darren Ferguson are just taking it in turns arent they
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    ForeverAddickted said:
    killerandflash said:
    Grant McCann will return to Peterborough for his second spell there as manager
    Him and Darren Ferguson are just taking it in turns arent they
    Adams returning to Morecambe today also

    When's Bowyer returning to take Charlton over again  ;)
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,675
    killerandflash said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Carlisle sack Keith Millen
    Only appointed at the end of October!

    I'm sure there must be a high correlation between "3 managers in a season" and relegation. We've done it twice for a start - Dowie, Reed, Pardew and Luzon, Fraeye, Riga.
    paulie8290 said:
    Conte is ready to walk away from Tottenham apparently 

    Let's hope that happens and the "three manager curse" strikes the Spuds. Relegation this year would be a tough ask but I'll accept it happening next year.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Never considered Conté to be a quitter .. turns out he might have a lot in common with the WW2 Italian army tanks .. 4 reverse gears and 1 forward in case they were attacked from the rear
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,100
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,430
    Leeds United can today confirm the club have parted company with head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
    https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/29560/club-statement-marcelo-bielsa
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,333
    edited February 2022
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    Results don't lie though. They're just shipping goals and in real danger
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    clive said:
    Leeds United can today confirm the club have parted company with head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
    https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/29560/club-statement-marcelo-bielsa
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60529015

    Sad news, but his refusal to change his style was getting ridiculous. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,544
    killerandflash said:
    clive said:
    Leeds United can today confirm the club have parted company with head coach Marcelo Bielsa.
    https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/29560/club-statement-marcelo-bielsa
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60529015

    Sad news, but his refusal to change his style was getting ridiculous. 
    Like JJ you mean?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,599
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Bielsa was being paid a reported 8 Million a year at Leeds .. when I saw them play us at the Valley 2/3 years back, he spent all his time sitting on his blue bucket like a Latin Buddha while his many assistants shouted instructions to the players .. there were four of them all pointing and gesticulating in different directions, that could be why they lost .. Gallagher's first goal for us as well if I recall
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Not to be confused with Jodie Marsh
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,298
    Not surprised. They were dead certs for relegation if they didn't make a change 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    golfaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
    Your aware he speaks English to the players right?

    I mean this may be a whoosh but it is a very common misconception around that he can't speak English, he speaks decent English.

    The interpreter is there for interviews as English is not his first language and he knows what the English press is like and he doesn't want anything he says turned around against him, so he prefers to speak in his own language with the use of the interpreter.

    I actually find that's a clever way of doing it, press can't miss quote you then.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,212
    addick1956 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Irritating bloke because  he never learned English.  Attractive football though.
    Attractive for Sky or the neutral fan.

    They've shipped a lot of goals last season and this, their fans must worry that they have to score at least two to get a draw at best.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,599
    paulie8290 said:
    golfaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
    Your aware he speaks English to the players right?

    I mean this may be a whoosh but it is a very common misconception around that he can't speak English, he speaks decent English.

    The interpreter is there for interviews as English is not his first language and he knows what the English press is like and he doesn't want anything he says turned around against him, so he prefers to speak in his own language with the use of the interpreter.

    I actually find that's a clever way of doing it, press can't miss quote you then.
    I wasn't aware of that. It might make sense but I still think if he's English is good enough for the players then urs good enough for the press. We have many foreign coaches & I dont know many who are misquoted or misunderstood. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    addick1956 said:
    paulie8290 said:
    golfaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
    Your aware he speaks English to the players right?

    I mean this may be a whoosh but it is a very common misconception around that he can't speak English, he speaks decent English.

    The interpreter is there for interviews as English is not his first language and he knows what the English press is like and he doesn't want anything he says turned around against him, so he prefers to speak in his own language with the use of the interpreter.

    I actually find that's a clever way of doing it, press can't miss quote you then.
    I have only seen him speak in Spanish EVER. He has 3 or 4 smurfs who Convey his orders in English . When he actually speaks any English I will change my view but not on what is heresy, or rather in this case not even hearsay as it were. 
    Could say the same about you. You seem to be hinting you speak/understand English but there’s been little evidence of that…
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,956
    addick1956 said:
    paulie8290 said:
    golfaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
    Your aware he speaks English to the players right?

    I mean this may be a whoosh but it is a very common misconception around that he can't speak English, he speaks decent English.

    The interpreter is there for interviews as English is not his first language and he knows what the English press is like and he doesn't want anything he says turned around against him, so he prefers to speak in his own language with the use of the interpreter.

    I actually find that's a clever way of doing it, press can't miss quote you then.
    I have only seen him speak in Spanish EVER. He has 3 or 4 smurfs who Convey his orders in English . When he actually speaks any English I will change my view but not on what is heresy, or rather in this case not even hearsay as it were. 
    Fool.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,737
    addick1956 said:
    paulie8290 said:
    golfaddick said:
    Chunes said:
    Shocked at that. Bielsa is a hero at Leeds. 

    I'd take him!
    I wouldn't. 

    Couldn't have a manager who had to speak through an interpreter. We have enough problems with players trying to understand what Jackskn's trying to do, let alone 2nd hand through someone else.
    Your aware he speaks English to the players right?

    I mean this may be a whoosh but it is a very common misconception around that he can't speak English, he speaks decent English.

    The interpreter is there for interviews as English is not his first language and he knows what the English press is like and he doesn't want anything he says turned around against him, so he prefers to speak in his own language with the use of the interpreter.

    I actually find that's a clever way of doing it, press can't miss quote you then.
    I have only seen him speak in Spanish EVER. He has 3 or 4 smurfs who Convey his orders in English . When he actually speaks any English I will change my view but not on what is heresy, or rather in this case not even hearsay as it were. 
    Well whatever language he speaks, these three individuals, who have been major players in his team's successful times and who have all been out injured during this run of defeats, seem to have understood what he did for them as evidenced by the fact that they all became internationals during his time at the club:












  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,031
    It’s interesting to compare Jackson’s last 6 stats with Bielsa’s.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,873
    Lincsaddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Bielsa was being paid a reported 8 Million a year at Leeds .. when I saw them play us at the Valley 2/3 years back, he spent all his time sitting on his blue bucket like a Latin Buddha while his many assistants shouted instructions to the players .. there were four of them all pointing and gesticulating in different directions, that could be why they lost .. Gallagher's first goal for us as well if I recall
    Wasn't it Bonne? The ball hit him and flew into the net
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Bielsa was being paid a reported 8 Million a year at Leeds .. when I saw them play us at the Valley 2/3 years back, he spent all his time sitting on his blue bucket like a Latin Buddha while his many assistants shouted instructions to the players .. there were four of them all pointing and gesticulating in different directions, that could be why they lost .. Gallagher's first goal for us as well if I recall
    Wasn't it Bonne? The ball hit him and flew into the net
    A mixture between Bonne and Lockyer. Gallagher had nothing to do with it and had already scored a number of goals before the end of September.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Bielsa speaks English and Paulie is 100% correct.

    He has always said when asked the question he wants to make sure he gets things completely correct and not misunderstood or not know the exact translation. He always gives extremely thorough answers in his press conferences and didn’t wish to change so preferred to speak in his native tongue.

    My dad is a Leeds supporter, as I’ve mentioned on here before, so I have an added interest into Leeds and their ongoings.

    A wonderful manager who was never going to move away from his principles and why should he? If plan A is not working, you don’t have a plan B, you improve plan A. It’s that unwavering belief that has got him the success he has had so why deviate now? His time at Leeds should never have ended in this way and missing key players like Phillips and Bamford for the amount of time they have this season has played just as much, if not a bigger, part to their downfall as to their lack of recruitment on the senior level. Leeds focused so much in the summer on young talent to develop but potentially not enough on the ready made type they could’ve have needed that bit more.

    The grass is not always greener… and a change of manager with such different ideas might not work out.   
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    edited February 2022
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    stackitsteve said:
    Reports that Bielsa is gone from Leeds. 

    Ex Leipzig boss Jesse Marsch to take over. 
    Bielsa was being paid a reported 8 Million a year at Leeds .. when I saw them play us at the Valley 2/3 years back, he spent all his time sitting on his blue bucket like a Latin Buddha while his many assistants shouted instructions to the players .. there were four of them all pointing and gesticulating in different directions, that could be why they lost .. Gallagher's first goal for us as well if I recall
    Wasn't it Bonne? The ball hit him and flew into the net
    you're right, I am getting my games mixed up, Gallagher scored much earlier against Stoke .. incidentally, I have just read that Connor  had 'minor heart surgery' in 2018
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    13 K Casilla
    15 S Dallas
    5 B White
    6 L Cooper (c)
    10 E Alioski
    23 K Phillips
    17 H Costa
    46 J Shackleton 
    43 M Klich
    22 J Harrison
    9  P Bamford

    Just looking at the Leeds team we beat at home back in Sept 2019 ..  a lot who played are still first teamers, when they're fit .. shows a lack of investment ? and like us, injury problems

    Whoever gets the Leeds job will need luck to stay up and a bit to spend in the summer
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Lincsaddick said:
    13 K Casilla
    15 S Dallas
    5 B White
    6 L Cooper (c)
    10 E Alioski
    23 K Phillips
    17 H Costa
    46 J Shackleton 
    43 M Klich
    22 J Harrison
    9  P Bamford

    Just looking at the Leeds team we beat at home back in Sept 2019 ..  a lot who played are still first teamers, when they're fit .. shows a lack of investment ? and like us, injury problems

    Whoever gets the Leeds job will need luck to stay up and a bit to spend in the summer
    Agreed, it's been impressive the way he's kept faith with the British "journeyman" players like Ayling, Dallas and improved the likes of Bamford and Phillips, but their squad isn't great.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,020
    Looks like it's going to be Jesse Marsch replacing Bielsa , an American coach out of the Red Bull system . Failed at Leipzig after replacing Julian Nagelsmann, and a big task to keep this Leeds side up with a fairly large style change. 

    Do wonder how much the 49ers ownership that part own Leeds have had their hand in all this. 

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