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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Is cook fit to bat
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Haven't heard other than at he end of play they said he was only bruised and they would reassess what it looked like in the morning.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Why have we sent in Finn as a nightwatchman? I appreciate Cook hasn't been able to bat yet but it's not as though we're 237 runs behind and trying to bat out the last two days to salvage a draw.

    We're 2-0 up in the series which has already been won, we're 237 runs ahead going into Day 4 why on earth do we need a nightwatchman? Why not send in Moeen Ali? And if he gets out to a peach of a delivery it doesn't matter if it's the last ball of Day 3 or the first of Day 4.

    If we were 237 behind i'd understand it but we're not so I don't understand it.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    North Lower Neil said:

    Brilliant delivery to get Root.

    It was a shooter and shouldn't happen on a Test Match pitch on the third day. Nothing brilliant about it.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    The weather forecast for today isn't good, and my seat is about 6 rows ahead of the cover...

    It's raining hard now
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    MartinCAFC said:

    Why have we sent in Finn as a nightwatchman? I appreciate Cook hasn't been able to bat yet but it's not as though we're 237 runs behind and trying to bat out the last two days to salvage a draw.

    We're 2-0 up in the series which has already been won, we're 237 runs ahead going into Day 4 why on earth do we need a nightwatchman? Why not send in Moeen Ali? And if he gets out to a peach of a delivery it doesn't matter if it's the last ball of Day 3 or the first of Day 4.

    If we were 237 behind i'd understand it but we're not so I don't understand it.

    England say it's the batsman's choice, whether they want a nightwatchman to bat instead of them.

    Unfortunately, I can't see any play today and possibly none tomorrow as well.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Covered End said:

    MartinCAFC said:

    Why have we sent in Finn as a nightwatchman? I appreciate Cook hasn't been able to bat yet but it's not as though we're 237 runs behind and trying to bat out the last two days to salvage a draw.

    We're 2-0 up in the series which has already been won, we're 237 runs ahead going into Day 4 why on earth do we need a nightwatchman? Why not send in Moeen Ali? And if he gets out to a peach of a delivery it doesn't matter if it's the last ball of Day 3 or the first of Day 4.

    If we were 237 behind i'd understand it but we're not so I don't understand it.

    England say it's the batsman's choice, whether they want a nightwatchman to bat instead of them.

    Unfortunately, I can't see any play today and possibly none tomorrow as well.
    It was odd, but then England over the years have always liked using night watchmen, unlike most other countries. Maybe the logic was to have Finn in so that when he gets out this morning (touch wood), Cook can then come in to bat with Hales

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited June 2016
    killerandflash said:

    Covered End said:

    MartinCAFC said:

    Why have we sent in Finn as a nightwatchman? I appreciate Cook hasn't been able to bat yet but it's not as though we're 237 runs behind and trying to bat out the last two days to salvage a draw.

    We're 2-0 up in the series which has already been won, we're 237 runs ahead going into Day 4 why on earth do we need a nightwatchman? Why not send in Moeen Ali? And if he gets out to a peach of a delivery it doesn't matter if it's the last ball of Day 3 or the first of Day 4.

    If we were 237 behind i'd understand it but we're not so I don't understand it.

    England say it's the batsman's choice, whether they want a nightwatchman to bat instead of them.

    Unfortunately, I can't see any play today and possibly none tomorrow as well.
    It was odd, but then England over the years have always liked using night watchmen, unlike most other countries. Maybe the logic was to have Finn in so that when he gets out this morning (touch wood), Cook can then come in to bat with Hales

    Or to get Finn to have more practice at being night-watchman for when we play the 'real' teams. Shouldnt change team strategy coz its only SL - else it'd be like Milner not coming on for Rooney.
  • superchrissypowell
    superchrissypowell Posts: 693
    A nightwatchman is fine. If we get to bat today, I suspect we will go out swinging as not a lot of play is forcast.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Athers saying this morning with regard to Joe Root that although No 4 has always been where you bat your best batsman, he believes that Bayliss may want him to push up 1 place because of the problem, and then play Bairstow as a specialist batsman, with Buttler coming back in as keeper.
    Therefore, the team could look something like...
    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes/Wood
    Broad
    Finn
    Jimmy

    Thats not a bad team tbh !
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  • superchrissypowell
    superchrissypowell Posts: 693
    I think Borthwick deserves a go at 3. Root has done brilliantly at 4. Also with Borthwick being able to bowl leg spin too, it gives us an extra dimension when we travel to some dusty pitches this winter.

    Also think Woakes has done very well in the last 3 games. Think we may go with Woakes instead of Finn when Stoakes is back. 2 out and out bowlers in Broad and Anderson. 3 all rounders (Stoakes, Ali and Woakes). Then 2 batters that can turn their arms over (Borthwick and Root).

    Feel sorry for Butler, but Bairstow has been excellent with the bat.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    edited June 2016
    The_President said:

    Athers saying this morning with regard to Joe Root that although No 4 has always been where you bat your best batsman, he believes that Bayliss may want him to push up 1 place because of the problem, and then play Bairstow as a specialist batsman, with Buttler coming back in as keeper.
    Therefore, the team could look something like...
    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes/Wood
    Broad
    Finn
    Jimmy

    Thats not a bad team tbh !

    More likely to have an extra batsman (I think Vince will get another go) than 4 seamers and Stokes.

    Woakes or Finn will drop out for Stokes, and someone (Buttler or Borthwick) will come in for Compton.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    My non professional weather forecast from Pimlico tells me to forget the cricket today. It's frickin Miserable :-(
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Hales out lbw for 94. WOuld have been first Test century
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Eng 206-6
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    North Lower Neil said:

    The_President said:

    Athers saying this morning with regard to Joe Root that although No 4 has always been where you bat your best batsman, he believes that Bayliss may want him to push up 1 place because of the problem, and then play Bairstow as a specialist batsman, with Buttler coming back in as keeper.
    Therefore, the team could look something like...
    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes/Wood
    Broad
    Finn
    Jimmy

    Thats not a bad team tbh !

    More likely to have an extra batsman (Vince) than 4 seamers and Stokes.

    Woakes or Finn will drop out for Stokes, and someone (Buttler or Borthwick) will come in for Compton.
    Prob right - Borthwick or Westley in...

    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Westley
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes/Wood/Finn
    Broad
    Jimmy

    A bl00dy good side.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    I can see:

    Cook
    Hales
    Root/Vince
    Vince/Root
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes/Finn
    Broad
    Anderson

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    killerandflash said:

    The weather forecast for today isn't good, and my seat is about 6 rows ahead of the cover...

    It's raining hard now

    I'm glad you got to see some play.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    Covered End said:

    killerandflash said:

    The weather forecast for today isn't good, and my seat is about 6 rows ahead of the cover...

    It's raining hard now

    I'm glad you got to see some play.
    I don't think I'm getting hired by the met office :-)
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,735
    SantaClaus said:

    Covered End said:

    killerandflash said:

    The weather forecast for today isn't good, and my seat is about 6 rows ahead of the cover...

    It's raining hard now

    I'm glad you got to see some play.
    I don't think I'm getting hired by the met office :-)
    You got it wrong?

    I'd say you start tomorrow!
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Covered End said:

    killerandflash said:

    The weather forecast for today isn't good, and my seat is about 6 rows ahead of the cover...

    It's raining hard now

    I'm glad you got to see some play.
    A frustrating day...

    In a way, when it pissed down this morning, as least you knew where you stood, whereas the on and off showers in the afternoon were really annoying!
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,735
    We have some play and Jimmy makes the breakthrough.

    45-1.

    Silva didn't pick the inswinger, didn't offer a stroke and was plumb in front lbw.

    Let's hope the weather behaves itself.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,735
    Addickted2TheReds said:

    We have some play and Jimmy makes the breakthrough.

    45-1.

    Silva didn't pick the inswinger, didn't offer a stroke and was plumb in front lbw.

    Let's hope the weather behaves itself.

    It's started absolutely pissing down....
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Looking a bit gloomy, I'm at the stage where I'm near giving up and going home to watch the football!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    1st ODI starts at Trent Bridge at 2pm.

    England won the toss & will bowl first.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    edited June 2016
    SL 27-1 3.3 overs

    Gunathilaka c Bairstow (in the field, Buttler is keeper) b Willey 9
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    50-2 7.2 overs

    Perera c Roy b Willey 24
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    56-3
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    Mendis C Buttler b Woakes 17

    56-3
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    forgot all about this...

    England team...
    Alex Hales
    Jason Roy
    Joe Root
    Eoin Morgan(c)
    Jonny Bairstow
    Jos Buttler(wk)
    Moeen Ali
    Chris Woakes
    David Willey
    Adil Rashid
    Liam Plunkett

    That's a strong batting line-up - nice to see that they are trying to accommodate JB (Jonny Bairstow) as well as JB (Jos Buttler), needed to happen based on Jonny's batting prowess and development this season - also shows that they believe Buttler to be a better keeper than Bairstow ! - though doing both jobs in Test matches has proved troublesome in past.

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