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Protest Song - More Than Just a Toy

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  • Top marks to all those involved in this - great !
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,565
    edited April 2016
    @Big in Brasov Rather than making an extra donation, surely it is better if we all download it multiple times for 99p? Might have a chance of making the Top 40 then...
    Great stuff, btw.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,104
    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.
  • SaySomething
    SaySomething Posts: 2,534
    Quality! Well done The 2percent!
  • @Big in Brasov Rather than making an extra donation, surely it is better if we all download it multiple times for 99p? Might have a chance of making the Top 40 then...
    Great stuff, btw.

    Indeed Weegie, that makes good sense, however, the song hasn't been registered for the charts. Having said that it is something I can explore and perhaps it can be registered retrospectively.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804

    Come on. There seems to be every talent under the sun at the Valley (outside the directors box obviously). Can we not find a hacker to get this up on matchday?

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  • Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    That's my concern, (for want of a better word). More info at...

    officialcharts.com/getting-into-the-charts/releasing-your-music/
  • Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

  • BowieAddick
    BowieAddick Posts: 1,192
    Well worth £5 of my money, very catchy
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,288
    That is brilliant well done :-)

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  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    Could get a megaphone and play this through it during the match?

    Great effort great tune.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,104
    @Big in Brasov, something tells me that you're going to sell more than a few hundred!
  • Excellent!
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,565

    Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

    Know nothing about this, either, but may be a shame to miss the opportunity - how much are we talking about?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,355

    Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

    Use some of the proceeds of this single to join PRS and get a barcode for the ALBUM.

    Release the album, with it registered on the official chart list.

    Then release the FOLLOW-UP.

    Copy some bootleg versions of the first single to sell to fans at the LIVE GIG at The Valley in the Summer (if someone can find the keys to the stadium).

    Finally, release a live version of the gig on DVD. And Blu-Ray.
  • Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

    Know nothing about this, either, but may be a shame to miss the opportunity - how much are we talking about?
    I think we're getting carried away. To get into the top 40 we'd need sales of around 8000 downloads, and I can't believe we'll get anywhere near.

    This evening, when I have time, I will look at costs.

  • Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

    Know nothing about this, either, but may be a shame to miss the opportunity - how much are we talking about?
    I'd be happy to contribute, either directly or via the fighting fund. This is potentially the Valley Party moment - when the protests can make a permanent statement.
  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012

    Stig said:

    Can I check, what is the story regarding downloads for the chart. Will downloads from The 2percent's webpage count or do you have to download from a recognised supplier (say iTunes)?

    Also, is there a particular cut-off day that they count from? We wouldn't want the numbers to be minimised because they are split across two weeks.

    Just had a quick look and I'd need to join PPL or PRS and get a digital identifier (like a bar-code no.), - there would be associated costs.

    To be frank, I can't imagine this will sell more than a few hundred download copies, and I'd be well chuffed with those sort of numbers.

    Know nothing about this, either, but may be a shame to miss the opportunity - how much are we talking about?
    I think the official top 40 is iTunes only now.
  • I suspect you need to sell less than 8,000 to get into the Ultratop Top 50....

    http://www.ultratop.be/fr/

    Trying to find out how many right now ;)
  • Badger
    Badger Posts: 4,842
    Like the song and the video is good as well,

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  • http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/article.cfm?id=117122&headline=Charlton fan calling the tune as he releases song aimed at Addicks hierarchy&sectionIs=sport&searchyear=2016

    Charlton fan calling the tune as he releases song aimed at Addicks hierarchy

    Monday, 11 April 2016 By Richard Cawley in Football


    An unhappy Charlton fan has released a song aimed at the club’s owner Roland Duchatelet - with money raised going towards the protests that have been a backdrop to this season.

    The Addicks are on the verge of losing their Championship status and there have been lengthy delays in the last two home games as beachballs and stressballs were thrown onto the pitch.

    Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet (CARD) have hit the club’s hierarchy with a series of protests - including travelling to his hometown team of Sint-Truiden in Belgium, a mock coffin parade outside The Valley and urging fans to boycott buying food or drink from inside the stadium.

    John Barnes, a Charlton fan since 1964, has put out a song called More Than Just A Toy. He said: “Like many Charlton fans, I’m very upset at the way things have gone over the past few years.

    “I like music and writing songs, and thought it would be a different way to call attention to our situation to make people aware of the circumstances at Charlton and why fans are so upset.”

    Available to buy for 99p, all profits from the song will be donated to the Charlton protest fund, a bank account set up by two supporters to help fund the recent protests.

    Barnes and his band - known as The 2percent after Charlton chief executive Katrien Meire claimed it was only two per cent of supporters who were dissatisfied have taken part in protests - have also produced an entertaining video.

    The protest fund has raised around £20,000 in donations from fans.

    “There have been lots of protests aimed at a range of targets,” added John.

    “I think to keep grabbing people’s attention you have to make things interesting, and this is just another way to keep chipping away at the regime.

    “Hopefully, in some small way, it will help to contribute to change.”
  • Love it. Idea of getting it into the charts is a great one sure we could sell several thousand with any revenue going to protest fund if possible.
  • Love it. Idea of getting it into the charts is a great one sure we could sell several thousand with any revenue going to protest fund if possible.

    All profits from downloads will go to the protest fund

  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Weird
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791
    edited April 2016
    In terms of making a high turnover of recorded sales - could a large sum of money from the protest fund buy 5,000 'sales' ( so £5,000) without losing any money ?

    £5k goes out of the protest fund --> buys 5,000 copies of the song --> 5,000 copies of the song produces £5,000 'profit' that is going back into the protest fund anyway = £0 loss , £0 profit

    Would mean garunteed sales and a ranking on the charts , plus more media attention for reaching that amount of sales?
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,846
    sammy391 said:

    In terms of making a high turnover of sales - could a large sum of money from the protest fund buy 5,000 'sales' ( so £5,000) without losing any money ?

    £5k goes out of the protest fund --> buys 5,000 copies of the song --> 5,000 copies of the song produces £5,000 'profit' that is going back into the protest fund anyway = £0 loss , £0 profit

    Would mean garunteed sales and a ranking on the charts , plus more media attention for reaching that amount of sales?

    No Sammy, because we don't get all of the 99p per download. There are costs that go to the platform.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791
    Davo55 said:

    sammy391 said:

    In terms of making a high turnover of sales - could a large sum of money from the protest fund buy 5,000 'sales' ( so £5,000) without losing any money ?

    £5k goes out of the protest fund --> buys 5,000 copies of the song --> 5,000 copies of the song produces £5,000 'profit' that is going back into the protest fund anyway = £0 loss , £0 profit

    Would mean garunteed sales and a ranking on the charts , plus more media attention for reaching that amount of sales?

    No Sammy, because we don't get all of the 99p per download. There are costs that go to the platform.
    Ah ok , makes sense! Thought I was onto something there :lol:
  • Davo55 said:

    sammy391 said:

    In terms of making a high turnover of sales - could a large sum of money from the protest fund buy 5,000 'sales' ( so £5,000) without losing any money ?

    £5k goes out of the protest fund --> buys 5,000 copies of the song --> 5,000 copies of the song produces £5,000 'profit' that is going back into the protest fund anyway = £0 loss , £0 profit

    Would mean garunteed sales and a ranking on the charts , plus more media attention for reaching that amount of sales?

    No Sammy, because we don't get all of the 99p per download. There are costs that go to the platform.
    And, anyway, it's the sort of thing that you'd expect from the other side...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,842

    Weird

    Maybe the Red Parade or whatever it was called can submit their own less weird protest song. :-)
  • valleyrobin
    valleyrobin Posts: 203
    Great song can we not send it to the BBC and ITV plus all radio stations here and in Belguim