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  • Six wasn’t a great number for us today was it - firstly a hammering for Charlton, then Joe Joyce.
  • What’s people’s thoughts on Moses Itauma, only 18 heavyweight looks like he can box but not really been hit yet, fought last night, highlights on YouTube, he’s from Chatham maybe Carter has come across him.
    Still a boy but mixing it with men.
  • Was quite surprised to see that Joyce is 38 this year. Had always considered him to be more of an up and coming boxer and therefore much younger.
  • Bournesnr said:
    What’s people’s thoughts on Moses Itauma, only 18 heavyweight looks like he can box but not really been hit yet, fought last night, highlights on YouTube, he’s from Chatham maybe Carter has come across him.
    Still a boy but mixing it with men.
    Definitely looks a prospect, and can bang as seen from his first couple of fights. Tough to tell whether he is going to be the real deal until he fights someone who isn't a punchbag, but certainly has the tools
  • What I like about Itauma is his easy, fluid style. He moves brilliantly, more like a middleweight the way he delivers his combinations and then opens up distance again from his opponent. Most Heavyweights will struggle with that style. Looks so at ease in the ring. You've got to imagine he hasn't built full man power yet. I don't see him even coming close to beating Tyson's record for youngest HW world champ and he's going to need a lot more time and tests. Early signs are good but knocking over two tomato cans does not tell us too much.
  • Been a big boxing fan for twenty years, watch any card shown in the UK and go to a lot of bouts live but watching Joe Joyce last night really concerned me having just finished reading Tris Dixon's book, 'Damage'.

    Sorry if it has been mentioned somewhere on the thread before but I'd urge any boxing fan to read it. The book bravely dares to investigate in detail, the history of brain damage to boxers, talks to all the scientists who have studied the matter. The findings and endless anecdotes are shocking enough that I honestly struggle to watch the sport now. Seeing Joyce use his granite chin as a form of defence is really disturbing and frankly negligent. Something needs to change in the sport if we still have commentators praising boxers' chins and their bravery as they take a beating, rather than expressing serious concern about their lack of defence and the corner turning a blind eye in the hope of a lucky shot.

    Sad to say but the odds are heavily stacked against Joe Joyce from avoiding some serious brain damage as he ages away from the spotlight.
  • mendonca said:
    Joyce showed he has a granite chin again, but your eyes and nose can never be made from that material!
    Exactly, simple but smart from Ziang, bloke is letting you hit him too much but has a granite chin - just hit him in the eye.
  • Bournesnr said:
    What’s people’s thoughts on Moses Itauma, only 18 heavyweight looks like he can box but not really been hit yet, fought last night, highlights on YouTube, he’s from Chatham maybe Carter has come across him.
    Still a boy but mixing it with men.
    A mate of mine trains him or did as an amateur and has been raving about him for years. I watched him once as an amateur pre covid so can't really offer much as I haven't seen him fight as a pro. 
  • Carter said:
    Bournesnr said:
    What’s people’s thoughts on Moses Itauma, only 18 heavyweight looks like he can box but not really been hit yet, fought last night, highlights on YouTube, he’s from Chatham maybe Carter has come across him.
    Still a boy but mixing it with men.
    A mate of mine trains him or did as an amateur and has been raving about him for years. I watched him once as an amateur pre covid so can't really offer much as I haven't seen him fight as a pro. 
    Hope he doesn't have his brothers chin
  • Been a big boxing fan for twenty years, watch any card shown in the UK and go to a lot of bouts live but watching Joe Joyce last night really concerned me having just finished reading Tris Dixon's book, 'Damage'.

    Sorry if it has been mentioned somewhere on the thread before but I'd urge any boxing fan to read it. The book bravely dares to investigate in detail, the history of brain damage to boxers, talks to all the scientists who have studied the matter. The findings and endless anecdotes are shocking enough that I honestly struggle to watch the sport now. Seeing Joyce use his granite chin as a form of defence is really disturbing and frankly negligent. Something needs to change in the sport if we still have commentators praising boxers' chins and their bravery as they take a beating, rather than expressing serious concern about their lack of defence and the corner turning a blind eye in the hope of a lucky shot.

    Sad to say but the odds are heavily stacked against Joe Joyce from avoiding some serious brain damage as he ages away from the spotlight.
    There was an MP in the 1950s by the name of Edith Summerskill who campaigned strongly for the abolition of boxing.  This is a picture of Lee Savold at the wrong end of a Joe Louis beating.  But these days with better gloves, doctors in attendance and a genuine concern for the health of boxers, times have changed surely.


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  • Been a big boxing fan for twenty years, watch any card shown in the UK and go to a lot of bouts live but watching Joe Joyce last night really concerned me having just finished reading Tris Dixon's book, 'Damage'.

    Sorry if it has been mentioned somewhere on the thread before but I'd urge any boxing fan to read it. The book bravely dares to investigate in detail, the history of brain damage to boxers, talks to all the scientists who have studied the matter. The findings and endless anecdotes are shocking enough that I honestly struggle to watch the sport now. Seeing Joyce use his granite chin as a form of defence is really disturbing and frankly negligent. Something needs to change in the sport if we still have commentators praising boxers' chins and their bravery as they take a beating, rather than expressing serious concern about their lack of defence and the corner turning a blind eye in the hope of a lucky shot.

    Sad to say but the odds are heavily stacked against Joe Joyce from avoiding some serious brain damage as he ages away from the spotlight.
    There was an MP in the 1950s by the name of Edith Summerskill who campaigned strongly for the abolition of boxing.  This is a picture of Lee Savold at the wrong end of a Joe Louis beating.  But these days with better gloves, doctors in attendance and a genuine concern for the health of boxers, times have changed surely.


    It's the brain rattling in the skull as much as anything else. Hopefully scans can detect early songs of brain damage and boxers lose their licences
  • If heading a ball gives you CTE, so does being smashed in the face for 20 years. Big gloves or no big gloves. 
  • The CTE stats were scary in aforementioned book. Tris Dixon is hardly an abolitionist but even he had to wince when told over 85% of boxers examined showed brain damage/CTE when their brains were examined. The majority of boxers appear to have dementia or a serious injury to the nervous system into when in their 70s and 80s (many far earlier, a plethora affected in their 40s and 50s and some like Wilfred Benitez needing care in their 30s. It's crazy. The roll of honour among hall of fame boxers was scary. All these boxers proudly say they're leaving the sport with the faculties intact and then later in life boom they're gone and it doesn't go reported. They shuffle off into the darkness as they age and boxing turns its back on them. It is a very serious issue which the industry is pretty much turning a blind eye to.
  • This Joe Cordina bout is a quality scrap 
  • Cracking fight. Hope Joe doesn't gas, as he is eating a lot of body shots 
  • This is an incredible fight
  • Don't think Cordina has fought a smart fight. He is a far better boxer but hasn't used those boxing skills enough. Hope he does enough.
  • Anyone with this hair cut is a doublehard bastard 



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  • Got tank up by 2
  • Immense performance from Tank.

    Can't help but feel that the rehydration clause fucked Garcia though. He didn't really look up for it at all.
  • Immense performance from Tank.

    Can't help but feel that the rehydration clause fucked Garcia though. He didn't really look up for it at all.
    As soon as he got tagged he fell to pieces... definitely could have made that count but didn't fancy it. Nothing to do with the rehydration clause, was beaten by the better fighter, tank looks the real deal
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Immense performance from Tank.

    Can't help but feel that the rehydration clause fucked Garcia though. He didn't really look up for it at all.
    As soon as he got tagged he fell to pieces... definitely could have made that count but didn't fancy it. Nothing to do with the rehydration clause, was beaten by the better fighter, tank looks the real deal
    Yeah i'm not arguing that Tank is the better fighter, just felt like Garcia looked way off it. Was expecting more from him.
  • Fair play to both of them for making the fight. Tank a level above in the ring 
  • So. Anyone watching Canelo tonight/tomorrow?
  • I really wish that Ben Whittaker would tone down his showboating a little bit.
    I find it really disrespectful to his opponent. 
  • These (c)rap intros are becoming really boring.
  • So. Anyone watching Canelo tonight/tomorrow?
    Nope but my mate had £100 on Ryder at 14.0 on betfair now 15.5🙄
    he’ll have to knock him out 3 times to get a result in Mexico 
  • Good performance from Ryder there, took a bit too much punishment in the 1st 6 rounds but done well.
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