Poor Atmosphere
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I thought I'd stopped my son from posting. Age 5.addick05 said:Give us something to cheer about and maybe the atmosphere will change... shite from minute 1 to minute 95. The players should be fecking grateful we are still turning up... for now anyway!
It's hard but even when the team is playing shite we should be supporting them, pushing, fighting and cheering for them.
It makes them play better.
This 'I'll only support if they are playing well' makes me very very angry.
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cafctom said:
The majority of our fans were not at Rotherham or Birmingham away and therefore they've probably only witnessed one Charlton win since August (Sheffield Wednesday).
The last game my sons saw Charlton win was Hull at home, no,wonder they don't want to go any more.0 -
When you hear your son say
"what's a tunnel jump Daddy"
I find i'm so gutted i can hardly speak;
after finding a bit of composure,
I tell him to get a grip, as he's 23 now.18 -
Tunnel jump? Is that s thing now? I'll have to ask my son.0
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I thought we were playing Cardiff next week, anyway all the time it is mathematically possible.................killerandflash said:
All I'm saying is that one bad result doesn't make it certain that we're relegated. Similarly if we beat Fulham next week, that doesn't make us certainties to stay up.Daggs said:
Perhaps I should have added IMO?killerandflash said:
Hardly, we're 4 points off safety, nothing is decided yet. One week we get a good result, the next week somebody else does, and that will continue until the end of the season.Daggs said:Last weekend at Rotherham, our team gave themselves a chance of fighting relegation. Yesterday the same team bar one, totally failed to put in any worthwhile effort. Were disgraceful and an embarassment.
Their total ineptitude has now consigned CAFC to league one.
There are many contributing factors to the shambles we witness almost every game. But trying to blame the supporters is at best misguided, at worst, an insult to many of us who have stuck with this club for decades.
How much are you betting on us not getting relegated?
There will be plenty of twists ahead. Flukey wins, heartbreaking defeats due to a bad refereeing decision, injuries for us AND our rivals...
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A little insulting isn't it blaming the supporters?
These are the very people who pay their hard earned money, turn up every game only to see some these over paid so called professional players, take the piss out of us.
I find it amazing that some supporters feel the players should not take some of the blame for the position we are in.
The only innocent ones in this, are us mug supporters who turn up ever game wishing and hoping this can be turned around, only to leave disappointed once again.
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Oops, misread the fixture list!RedChaser said:
I thought we were playing Cardiff next week, anyway all the time it is mathematically possible.................killerandflash said:
All I'm saying is that one bad result doesn't make it certain that we're relegated. Similarly if we beat Fulham next week, that doesn't make us certainties to stay up.Daggs said:
Perhaps I should have added IMO?killerandflash said:
Hardly, we're 4 points off safety, nothing is decided yet. One week we get a good result, the next week somebody else does, and that will continue until the end of the season.Daggs said:Last weekend at Rotherham, our team gave themselves a chance of fighting relegation. Yesterday the same team bar one, totally failed to put in any worthwhile effort. Were disgraceful and an embarassment.
Their total ineptitude has now consigned CAFC to league one.
There are many contributing factors to the shambles we witness almost every game. But trying to blame the supporters is at best misguided, at worst, an insult to many of us who have stuck with this club for decades.
How much are you betting on us not getting relegated?
There will be plenty of twists ahead. Flukey wins, heartbreaking defeats due to a bad refereeing decision, injuries for us AND our rivals... .0 -
Is RD more likely to sell up if we stay up or get relegated?0
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Who is blaming the supporters?
That would be both wrong, and insulting.
The blame for our current position falls on successive poor decisions by the regime of Roland and Katrien.
I see us as fans and supporters as indluecers in a games result. The better the support, the more likely the players out harder, they thrive off the push we provide.
Referees and linesman also are heavily influenced by the crowd.
We can influence the team and the game through our continued support.
Fuck me the weather is shit outside at 11pm today.2 -
It depends on whether you believe the players are not trying or whether it is simply a case of them (collectively) not being good enough. If it's the latter, and I believe it is, then that isn't their fault, it's the fault of the administration, and they deserve and need all the support they can get.Kesman said:A little insulting isn't it blaming the supporters?
These are the very people who pay their hard earned money, turn up every game only to see some these over paid so called professional players, take the piss out of us.
I find it amazing that some supporters feel the players should not take some of the blame for the position we are in.
The only innocent ones in this, are us mug supporters who turn up ever game wishing and hoping this can be turned around, only to leave disappointed once again.
Another scenario could be that 9 of the team are playing their hearts out whilst 2 can't be bothered. This league is so tough that you cannot afford to carry even one player. Even in this case I would go (if I could) and get right behind those 9 players and hope that the manager is given the resources to replace the two stragglers.0 -
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They did... they put in the effort to beat Rotherham so at least in the first minute we could have got behind them!!!addick05 said:Give us something to cheer about and maybe the atmosphere will change... shite from minute 1 to minute 95. The players should be fecking grateful we are still turning up... for now anyway!
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On one hand, and rightfully so, we show our passion for Charlton by protesting and fighting against a regime that could potentially destroy the club. Yet on the other hand we boo and jeer a youth player who always gives 100%, but potentially might not be good enough for this level, and who we don't have any alternatives for.6
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That's better!!! The drums back and even the kids flag waving adds a bit COYR!!2
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No atmosphere at all here today...0
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Really is very flat0
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Miles better then last week though. And great for last 10 minutes.1
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To many 'stand up if you want them outs'1
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It's the acoustics....0
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Heard the drum and the crowd at Blackheath today... well done! What was the huge cheer about 20 odd minutes in BTW?0
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Probably their offside goal being disallowed?soapy_jones said:Heard the drum and the crowd at Blackheath today... well done! What was the huge cheer about 20 odd minutes in BTW?
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That was when Muzza dropped his zimmer frame.soapy_jones said:Heard the drum and the crowd at Blackheath today... well done! What was the huge cheer about 20 odd minutes in BTW?
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Quite interesting when the wind is in the right direction. The cheer at the end we thought was a goal was obviously their fella getting the red I assume? or did Muzza find his zimmer frame?mistrollingin said:
That was when Muzza dropped his zimmer frame.soapy_jones said:Heard the drum and the crowd at Blackheath today... well done! What was the huge cheer about 20 odd minutes in BTW?
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
No atmosphere at all here today...
when we started to play with 15 minutes to go the atmosphere wasBR3red said:Really is very flat
good. It's hard to get excited when the ball goes sideways and back.2 -
Players with support play better - the last 15 minutes yesterday showed that. There are quite a few mouthy gobsh!tes everywhere who believe they can play better than a disillusioned team and can manage better than Riga. They do not live in the real world and yes they are football fans but prove themselves to be customers rather than supporters.
Like them I do not support what the Belgian regime has done, unlike them I wont shoot myself and the team in the foot by abusing the team whilst I have a ticket to support my team on matchday.
Unlike them I won't undermine the team and the manager by pointless verbal abuse of players like Makienok who won virtually everything he went for yesterday or Fox who was vastly improved. Yes I groan when players make mistakes, poor passes. Do I think Riga played the best team he could yesterday - no, but that is my opinion and I am neither qualified or aware of what has happened at the training ground to make him select the team he does.
Yes, the commitment of the imports is going to be less than that of those who have been brought up in the academy. Is their commitment to the club going to be developed with abuse.....?
Previously when players have come in we as supporters have convinced them that they should want to play for our team. I can't see that happening with the current crop and I wouldn't be surprised if we managed to alienate some of our own academy players into choosing to play elsewhere.
It is simple "Support the team not the regime." Blackpool and Leeds did and do. Unfortunately it appears some of us can't bring ourselves to do that.
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In the majority the performances on the road have been just as poor as at home, completely defeating the object of these claims. Our heaviest defeats have come on the road too, including to a team at the foot of the league below us.
Anything else needed to be said is in my reply to the other naive post of the same ilk.1 -
They have to sort out this stand and if you want Roland out chant, they did it at the most inapropriate moments in the game, seemed every time the team got into an attacking posistions and need cheering on they started this chant instead.4
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some good points @Scratchingvalleycat but you seem to saying that those protesting are those abusing the team, we may sit in different parts of the ground but where I am in the East those who do the loudest moaning and abuse the players are predominantly those who moan and abuse those wearing black and white scarves as well.
I think there are four camps, protesters who support the team, protesters who stay away, supporters of team and regime and miserable cockwombles who protest at everything even the protesters....8 -
100% true @SE7toSG30
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I guess its the way modern Football has gone now (i.e. with Strikers always being the ones to win the Ballon D'Or etc.) but for fans to claim that they made some noise only when the team turned up with 15mins to go is a joke...
Henderson making save after save, Fox keeping Ameobi in his pocket, Teixeira / Lennon / Solly dealing with everything that came their way.
To me that shows that the team showed up from the 1st minute, yes it wasn't the guts and glory action of Midfielders bombing forward with the Strikers scoring glorious goals yet those five players are still part of the team0 -
Ever since I've watched football you only create atmosphere if you attack - Saturday was only lifted in the last 15 when we finally created something. Fans generally don't spend 90 minutes cheering their side's heroic defensive efforts unless they are up against Barcelona.ForeverAddickted said:I guess its the way modern Football has gone now (i.e. with Strikers always being the ones to win the Ballon D'Or etc.) but for fans to claim that they made some noise only when the team turned up with 15mins to go is a joke...
Henderson making save after save, Fox keeping Ameobi in his pocket, Teixeira / Lennon / Solly dealing with everything that came their way.
To me that shows that the team showed up from the 1st minute, yes it wasn't the guts and glory action of Midfielders bombing forward with the Strikers scoring glorious goals yet those five players are still part of the team
We have had very little to get behind but when we have the place lifts. It's hard to cheer when the team are constantly getting battered, playing hoofball, losing possession and creating very few chances.
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