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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,258
    mogodon said:

    valleynick66 said:

    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.

    Not fair in my opinion. Professional is completing your last assignment to the utmost of your ability and in taking stock at your new place of employment before doing anything radically different.
    Agree you see out your contract but equally you start looking at the next job as well, especially when it is with such a public organisation as a Championship football club. It would be extremely surprising not to arrive fairly well briefed.
    Now you come to mention it - in advertising agencies, generally you don't. They are such committed teams in such a competitive market, that there is no room for people who are not giving 100% because they already have a new job. In my day people on 6 months' notice were allowed to leave within a month. It's actually rather odd if she stayed and worked out a three month notice. Either way, KM had "interim " options if she really believed she could not get this lady to start earlier. But a more experienced manager would not have put up with waiting all that time anyway.

  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,973
    seth plum said:

    valleynick66 said:

    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.

    Not fair in my opinion. Professional is completing your last assignment to the utmost of your ability and in taking stock at your new place of employment before doing anything radically different.
    Disagree I'm afraid. Professional is preparing thoroughly for the new job applied for and accepted so as to hit the ground running no excuses, whilst at the same time completing your last assignment to the utmost of your ability.
    Anybody can define 'professional' on the hoof can't they?
    Within week 1 change the world ? You can only prepare so much from outside of any organisation.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited February 2016
    You get the job in November (maybe even earlier than it was announced), and you start three months later. No 'professional' would whinge that they need settling in time would they?
    Three months.
  • WrightCharlie
    WrightCharlie Posts: 755
    se9addick said:

    BBQ's in the car park actually sound quite good (on the three weekends a season that it isn't minus four hundred and/or raining).

    No, can't use the car park it'll be too full of protestors, actually they'll be held on the pitch........somewhere right out of the way......up the end we're supposed to be attacking :smile:
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,973
    edited February 2016
    seth plum said:

    You get the job in November (maybe even earlier than it was announced), and you start three months later. No 'professional' would whinge that they need settling in time would they?
    Three months.

    Who has whinged? I've only suggested any new employee should take stock of the new environment for a little while once they formally start.

    Regardless my opinion is that professional does mean giving 100% to your last assignment. If gardening leave were involved you have some limited flexibility but otherwise you seem to be expecting immediate potentially ill informed changes which within a small team of co-workers seems unlikely and undesirable to me.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,979
    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.


    What was she supposed to do? Come out at half time in a bikini and fire tshirt with her face on from a t-shirt cannon?

    Tracey Leaburn came in, tried to "'make a name" for herself and ended up getting dogs abuse.

    Maybe she wants to get in, see how the land lies and do the right thing.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,226
    Swisdom said:

    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.


    What was she supposed to do? Come out at half time in a bikini and fire tshirt with her face on from a t-shirt cannon?

    Tracey Leaburn came in, tried to "'make a name" for herself and ended up getting dogs abuse.

    Maybe she wants to get in, see how the land lies and do the right thing.
    No. But taking into account her profession and her new responsibilities, last weekend you'd have thought maybe she'd have updated her social media (particularly LinkedIn) and maybe written up something about herself to bung on the OS sometime during the working week. Don't you think?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,985
    for a head of comms you would have thought they would have put it out on the OS as a minimum

  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.

    So, who signed up for this Forum in November? Surely a perfect place to start for someone wanting to get to know their 'customers'?


  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,226
    Addickted said:

    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.

    So, who signed up for this Forum in November? Surely a perfect place to start for someone wanting to get to know their 'customers'?


    That's okay, she'll have Agent Olly to brief her. That should have been a long, long meeting with his new boss......

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The job has been vacant for two years, the appointment announced three months ago, the wages are high, the communication issue urgent, yet still someone should be allowed to settle in and get cut some slack?
    Hmmmn.
    So what is suggested, give the lady six months to get comfortable and familiar? A year?
    It may well turn out that the head of communications is only a functionary whose purpose is to follow instructions for the party line, and be good at spin and propaganda. If that is the case she ought to be on the case from minute one. Even if she is allowed any autonomy she ought to be on the case within a week at most.
    Given the Louis Mendez affair, the history of the communications department as reported in VOTV, the latest Henry Irvinggate revelations, the general control freakery of this regime I'm not expecting the new lady to have much personal autonomy in her new job.
    A third of her wages are apparently being paid for from our season ticket money, and whilst I wish her well, I won't take a patronising attitude either. The lady is here, communications are a disaster, improvement ought to happen from tomorrow at the latest, and those improvements ought to be 'communicated' to us straight away.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,985
    seth plum said:

    The job has been vacant for two years, the appointment announced three months ago, the wages are high, the communication issue urgent, yet still someone should be allowed to settle in and get cut some slack?
    Hmmmn.
    So what is suggested, give the lady six months to get comfortable and familiar? A year?
    It may well turn out that the head of communications is only a functionary whose purpose is to follow instructions for the party line, and be good at spin and propaganda. If that is the case she ought to be on the case from minute one. Even if she is allowed any autonomy she ought to be on the case within a week at most.
    Given the Louis Mendez affair, the history of the communications department as reported in VOTV, the latest Henry Irvinggate revelations, the general control freakery of this regime I'm not expecting the new lady to have much personal autonomy in her new job.
    A third of her wages are apparently being paid for from our season ticket money, and whilst I wish her well, I won't take a patronising attitude either. The lady is here, communications are a disaster, improvement ought to happen from tomorrow at the latest, and those improvements ought to be 'communicated' to us straight away.

    Looks as though she's getting a pay cut next season then
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,788
    edited February 2016
    Just to be clear, we make no criticism of the new woman in VOTV or comment on whether she is qualified or likely to be capable of doing the job, even though we had her LinkIn CV.

    I suspect Meire sees it as a marketing role insofar as she has any clue at all.
  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,260
    GlassHalfFull said:


    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?

    Scary thought.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,801
    Swisdom said:

    seth plum said:

    Time?
    It was announced in November that she would start on February 1st. I know that people have to work their notice and all that, but knowing you have a new job in three months ought to ensure you hit the ground running I would've thought.


    What was she supposed to do? Come out at half time in a bikini and fire tshirt with her face on from a t-shirt cannon?

    Tracey Leaburn came in, tried to "'make a name" for herself and ended up getting dogs abuse.

    Maybe she wants to get in, see how the land lies and do the right thing.
    Shrug her shoulders and leave maybe ?

  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,835
    Her role is given in the back of the programme

    "Communications : Mel Baroni"
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735
    Good luck to her. She's just jumped into a bigger hole than José Riga did
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,226
    GlassHalfFull said:


    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?

    I'd forgotten who he was and had to look him up. This is an extract from his LinkedIn.

    "I'm responsible for the digital marketing of our Football and Basket channels."

    So, it appears that in Belgium they have whole channels dedicated to Baskets? Could explain the laundry basket fiasco, maybe? Perhaps the Belgium version of I'm a celebrity get me out of here?
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,624
    cafcfan said:

    GlassHalfFull said:


    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?

    I'd forgotten who he was and had to look him up. This is an extract from his LinkedIn.

    "I'm responsible for the digital marketing of our Football and Basket channels."

    So, it appears that in Belgium they have whole channels dedicated to Baskets? Could explain the laundry basket fiasco, maybe? Perhaps the Belgium version of I'm a celebrity get me out of here?
    At the risk of te inevitable "Whoosh", surely basket refers to basketball...

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,226
    NornIrishAddick said:

    cafcfan said:

    GlassHalfFull said:


    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?

    I'd forgotten who he was and had to look him up. This is an extract from his LinkedIn.

    "I'm responsible for the digital marketing of our Football and Basket channels."

    So, it appears that in Belgium they have whole channels dedicated to Baskets? Could explain the laundry basket fiasco, maybe? Perhaps the Belgium version of I'm a celebrity get me out of here?
    At the risk of te inevitable "Whoosh", surely basket refers to basketball...
    I'm sure you're right really but couldn't resist being amused by the omission of " ball". After all he didn't say "foot and basket".
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    NornIrishAddick said:

    cafcfan said:

    GlassHalfFull said:


    Is Mel B possibly Amaury Gerard in disguise ?

    I'd forgotten who he was and had to look him up. This is an extract from his LinkedIn.

    "I'm responsible for the digital marketing of our Football and Basket channels."

    So, it appears that in Belgium they have whole channels dedicated to Baskets? Could explain the laundry basket fiasco, maybe? Perhaps the Belgium version of I'm a celebrity get me out of here?
    At the risk of te inevitable "Whoosh", surely basket refers to basketball...

    nah.

    Clearly laundry baskets are deeply embedded in Belgian culture.

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