Not suggesting I want us to lose, I want us to win every game. Just football fans are the most fickle in the world and 2 wins in a row will reduce the numbers imo. Protests should continue regardless. Its about much more than any on-field problems
As much as i detest our current ownership (particularly the incompetent CEO) Standing behind the West stand post-match chanting 'we want our Charlton back' is probably not convincing them to depart. I'm hoping some new tactics will come into play from this weekend.
Not suggesting I want us to lose, I want us to win every game. Just football fans are the most fickle in the world and 2 wins in a row will reduce the numbers imo. Protests should continue regardless. Its about much more than any on-field problems
Would you then not class those fans as band wagon jumpers rather than fully committed to the cause?
Not suggesting I want us to lose, I want us to win every game. Just football fans are the most fickle in the world and 2 wins in a row will reduce the numbers imo. Protests should continue regardless. Its about much more than any on-field problems
4 things in life you can guarantee;
Birth, taxes, fickle football fans, death. Win this one and the protest will fizzle out, there's a lot of fans who will choose to celebrate a massive win with a pint in the warmth of the boozer rather than the rain pretending to be angry.
Given a run of form that takes the team out of trouble, we have to ask ourselves are the issues that were originally raised resolved? The answer has to be not really. Since the Murray statement comms continues to be poor, whilst we have brought players in it continues to be reactionary with no clear player strategy and KM has not suddenly become a credible CEO. Her desire to move the POTY event and increase the charge either emphasizes her lack of understanding of the fans or underlines her disregard of them.
So a campaign against them needs to continue, not necessarily crowd protesting every match outside the West Stand, but in a manner that ensures that until there is a cohesive business plan being implemented for on and off field, then there will continue to be widespread 2% plus dissatisfaction.
My ideal scenario is KM out, a new CEO with management and business experience. a Roland epiphany and the club having clear transparent objectives and a strategy underpinning their achievement, supported by a strong management team.
What is happening on the field of play is completely different to what is happening to our football club as a whole & there lay the problem. We need to remain focused, support the team, not the regime !!
As others have said, another win on Saturday and I fear the protests will start to fizzle out. Sad but true.
I think we'll win on Saturday and will stay up. Although I'm pleased to see an improvement on the field, I will continue to stay away and will not renew my season tocket
yes the car park protests are great, i dont think they will change much, the issue i have is that i think its going to go v close if we survive as in 3-6 points in it, the only thing that will make these fuckers listen is disrupting games and costing them money a mass exodus on season tickets will hit them where it hurts if the numbers we anticipate dont renew, pitch invasions etc will just dock us points and im sure no one wants to see us relegated.
We need to keep protesting, doing an impression of a drowned rat may not be best way to do it, but if the best we can come up with for Saturday is outside the West Stand at 5pm, count me in.
As much as i detest our current ownership (particularly the incompetent CEO) Standing behind the West stand post-match chanting 'we want our Charlton back' is probably not convincing them to depart. I'm hoping some new tactics will come into play from this weekend.
We should always at least keep the threat of protesting behind the west stand after the match. This way it is costing RD an extra expense as the club will have to be prepared to put the barriers up and pay stewards additional hours. I would like to see the 'nothing bought in the ground' protest taken further. I'm not sure at what times and how busy the fans lounges get but if, say, between 1:30-2:30 we could fill bartrams and/or crossbars to capacity with a large percentage of fans that have no intention of buying anything it will hurt them even more.
Agree that the more effect Riga has then the momentum will falter and West Stand numbers will drop. New ideas needed. Leaflet bullet point hand outs perhaps? 1st highlighting their past poor management. 2nd a summary of our structural shortcomings (need more visibility on recruitment policy - how did PPPP and Rojo2 happen?) 3rd a prediction of how close season may go. 4th an EoS summary. T shirts for sale when weather gets warmer with some humourous RD/KM out slogans. Cartoon of them both in middle of pitch with a bubble comment? KM (with long nose) - Roly you've f**ked Charlton, please f**k me?
We have to continue to protest. Potentially, issues may improve on the playing side now that we have a proper manager in place. However the fact that we were running for so long with frequent horrendous decisions being made shows that the need for change up top remains. As has been mentioned above, the lack of communication has not improved, nor would it appear the understanding that we are more than customers.
I'm a fairweather protester - a win and / or some rain and i'll be straight home - a loss and I'm getting my balaclava - having said that, I won't renew my season ticket until I see some genuine changes
For me the protests will continue, with or without @PL54 's help
If we get out of this relegation trouble and stay up, it is purely by luck than judgment. They have made a catalogue of errors for 2 years now and success (or relative success, ie avoiding relegation each season) has been achieved through a combination of throwing a high turnover of personnel at it, and we somehow having enough talent just to get over the line.
The biggest reason the protests must continue for me is what has happened over the whole KF appointment and subsequent sacking. I know there are many other reasons in the 2 years, but when you consider he was appointed as an interim, then sacked because he was quite clearly not an interim manager, and RD's first choice was an ex indoor footballer managing in Hungary, it still quite clearly shows he hasn't got a fucking clue.
Everything else is just circumstance. That the team got a win and look more organised under Riga is nothing to do with RD. If I stand at a dart board all day I will occasionally hit the bulls eye. I'm shit at darts though and it won't be through skill. Roland is shit at owning and running football clubs, but the fact that he runs them everyday means there is a chance something could go right occasionally.
It may be that we get out of this mess now and turn the season round (by round I mean stay up) - but RD has had nothing to do with that
If we assume that Riga now does take us on a half decent run to keep us up then it really does need to be more widely known among fans that he was not our owners first choice, fan pressure on KM/RM got him in the dugout.
As how many Charlton fans who don't follow every snippet of insider news will even have heard about the Ujpest manager who was originally heading our way to take over from the interim one, as I know of my Charlton supporting family & friends I was the only one aware of that fact.
Not suggesting I want us to lose, I want us to win every game. Just football fans are the most fickle in the world and 2 wins in a row will reduce the numbers imo. Protests should continue regardless. Its about much more than any on-field problems
If we win more games its in spite of the regime not because of them. Protest until they have gone, we can be the antidote to their poison.
If it was down to Duchatelet, we would have a Serbian, as head coach Who's record was on a par with Karel Fraeye. we have a chance,but no thanks to the Thomson twins.(created by Belgian cartoonist Herge) Support the team(including Jose Riga) not the regime.
I suspect the KM/RD strategy was that a few wins and the bulk of protests would evaporate leaving a core who can easily be dismissed. In that regard, the success of the first two protests could come back to bite us. We have to keep the momentum up but it will be much harder with (relative) on field success. One decent win and one adequate manager should never paper over the massive problems we still face.
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Doubtful.
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Although I fear another win added to the pissing down rain will reduce numbers.
Protests should continue regardless. Its about much more than any on-field problems
It just had to be done slowly to keep the interest.
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Standing behind the West stand post-match chanting 'we want our Charlton back' is probably not convincing them to depart.
I'm hoping some new tactics will come into play from this weekend.
Birth, taxes, fickle football fans, death. Win this one and the protest will fizzle out, there's a lot of fans who will choose to celebrate a massive win with a pint in the warmth of the boozer rather than the rain pretending to be angry.
So a campaign against them needs to continue, not necessarily crowd protesting every match outside the West Stand, but in a manner that ensures that until there is a cohesive business plan being implemented for on and off field, then there will continue to be widespread 2% plus dissatisfaction.
My ideal scenario is KM out, a new CEO with management and business experience. a Roland epiphany and the club having clear transparent objectives and a strategy underpinning their achievement, supported by a strong management team.
Let the campaign continue.
I think we'll win on Saturday and will stay up. Although I'm pleased to see an improvement on the field, I will continue to stay away and will not renew my season tocket
We'll not be safe for some time, and the cause of this is bad management.
Protests to continue until changes occur (I don't consider the last minute loan signings made to be indicative of sufficient change).
This way it is costing RD an extra expense as the club will have to be prepared to put the barriers up and pay stewards additional hours.
I would like to see the 'nothing bought in the ground' protest taken further.
I'm not sure at what times and how busy the fans lounges get but if, say, between 1:30-2:30 we could fill bartrams and/or crossbars to capacity with a large percentage of fans that have no intention of buying anything it will hurt them even more.
Keep the momentum.... COYRS
If we get out of this relegation trouble and stay up, it is purely by luck than judgment. They have made a catalogue of errors for 2 years now and success (or relative success, ie avoiding relegation each season) has been achieved through a combination of throwing a high turnover of personnel at it, and we somehow having enough talent just to get over the line.
The biggest reason the protests must continue for me is what has happened over the whole KF appointment and subsequent sacking. I know there are many other reasons in the 2 years, but when you consider he was appointed as an interim, then sacked because he was quite clearly not an interim manager, and RD's first choice was an ex indoor footballer managing in Hungary, it still quite clearly shows he hasn't got a fucking clue.
Everything else is just circumstance. That the team got a win and look more organised under Riga is nothing to do with RD. If I stand at a dart board all day I will occasionally hit the bulls eye. I'm shit at darts though and it won't be through skill. Roland is shit at owning and running football clubs, but the fact that he runs them everyday means there is a chance something could go right occasionally.
It may be that we get out of this mess now and turn the season round (by round I mean stay up) - but RD has had nothing to do with that
As how many Charlton fans who don't follow every snippet of insider news will even have heard about the Ujpest manager who was originally heading our way to take over from the interim one, as I know of my Charlton supporting family & friends I was the only one aware of that fact.
Protest until they have gone, we can be the antidote to their poison.
Who's record was on a par with Karel Fraeye. we have a chance,but no thanks to the Thomson twins.(created by Belgian cartoonist Herge)
Support the team(including Jose Riga) not the regime.