Time to give Big Mak a break...

Spanish

Come on guys, enough is enough. Yeah he's not played well recently but arguably you could throw a few others into that category; JBG, Cousins, Fox... I don't hear them being singled out for the same derisory, sarcastic jeers.

Ultimately they're professionals and paid handsomely but they're human and just like you or I, aren't always at the top of their game every time. Lay off him, maybe get behind him and you might just be responsible for giving him the encouragement he needs to shake off this bad spell.

Uboat

I think you might be talking to the wrong audience.

Daarrzzetbum

I would love him to be an all conquering Danish Viking - problem is he is not very good at all. Granted defensively he offers something but up front leading the line he has limitations and offers very little in hold up play and linking play with his team mates. Not a criticism but an honest personal assessment. Would love it he he proved me wrong.

DRAddick

I believe that in a stronger squad he could play a role. However he doesn't appear to be the most technically gifted and bot someone to put your hopes on consistantly.
But if he's not good enough then that isn't his fault. It's the fault of the people who brought him in and who pick him.

Daggs

I was delighted when i saw we had signed a 6ft 7in forward. Just what we needed.
I gave him a chance, didn't get on his case after a few games. But i've seen enough....................... He's hopeless.

andynelson

I don't jeer, but can see that with the ball at his feet he can't play.

JimmyJCAFC

I agree, whilst Mak has been rather poor lately and hasn't contributed much when he has been on the pitch, I think he is a player that is lacking confidence right now and needs the fans to support him. I feel a little embarrassed when I sit listening to people jeer him when he wins a header and shout vile abuse when he doesn't. Seems like he has found himself in a situation of "your damned if you do and your damned if you don't" which is rather sad, especially coming from our own fans.

We all want to get out of this situation that we currently find our club in and yes the majority if not all of fans are not happy right now no matter what Katrien says, but the only way we are going to stay in this league is by sticking together. People on here have spoken about fans sticking together and forming protests etc.... to get our Charlton back (which I am all for), but surely that should also be the same for the players that currently wear our shirt?

Yes some of them may simply not be good enough, (there are a few that I would put into this category), but they are here now and there is nothing we as fans can currently do about that until either they are sold or replaced with new additions. Not many of our first team players have been consistently good this season and I haven't seen any performance that would suggest that Mak doesn't care, the effort seems to be there so I'm a little bemused as to why he is seen as the scape goat?

At the end of the day goals win you matches and its strikers jobs to score them goals. Most strikers success rate depends on confidence and luck and big Mak just doesn't seem to have either at the moment. Maybe its just me, but I think we really should all be showing support and trying to build his confidence back up as we need as many goals as possible right now.

NomadicAddick

I have to agree. The sarcastic applause at every header he wins or passes the ball isn't helping him and it isn't helping the team either.

golfaddick

the bloke id 6ft 6 but hardly ever gets his head to the ball. I used to ridicule Leaburn, but at least he got his head to the ball & scored !!

..............and he is in the team ahead of TW !! Good grief.

cafckev

Hang on a minute. Its his job! He needs to do his job, end of!

Yesterday, i spent 14 hours at work, had 5 hours sleep, then back in today for another 13 hours of bloody stressful work. Why? Because its my job. If i cock up, laps or simply give up, i know i will be in deep doo do and not get my managers say never mind, better luck tomorrow.

He simply needs to do his job and score or help others score by kicking/heading a ball for 90 minutes. If he cant do it, then dont do it.

cafctom

If we were a side that could regularly put balls in the box or get the chance to attack corners then he would score goals. Having him winning flick ons for powderpuff like Ahearne Grant and Reza doesn't really achieve much

Bangkokaddick

I only saw Makienok in the earliest games and liked what I saw. Many noticed that our results were better with him in the side. This was under Luzon, of course. So what's happened since Fraeye has come in? Has our interim manager managed to destroy someone who looked one of our better signings at the start of the season? Something just isn't right.

Hartleypete

When you loose form you work harder, not stand like a statue in the middle of the pitch, lazy and useless.

HantsAddick

Mak didn't win one header in the first half against Ipswich and he's 6'7''! Don't think he won many in the second either, at least he should be good in the air even if not as good on the ground. I don't rate him.

Stig

Can anyone explain, in what way taking the piss out of one of our own players helpful?

Sure he might not be as talented a footballer as we'd like, but jeering is never going to improve that. He might not always put in as much effort as we'd like, but ironic cheers are only going to hack him off, not motivate. Just what we're our fans trying to achieve?

kentred2

the minority that attend matches need to ruin the confidence of all the players to help speed up relegation and the sale of the club.

cfgs

He has had some very good performances and some absolutely terrible ones, so either he has been lucky or misfortunate. I think he is suffering as the team is suffering, if we were still flying I think he would not be doing so badly.

BR7_addick

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BR7_addick

Give him a break from football perhaps, only Charlton could sign a 6ft7 forward who can't head

rananegra

He headed quite a few when he came on yesterday. How many cheers does it need to be before it stops being ironic?

(admittedly none of them came to much, but that's not necessarily his fault)

shirty5

He's not good enough. Another one to add to the crap they have bought since January 2014.

Bedsaddick

Slagging our own players off is what we do.
We have a history of it.
Makienok had one bad game against Ipswich and now he is the new Kishishev, Robinson, Abbot, mooney, McCormack, Francis etc..
Pathetic

I_Saw_Semedo_Score

Daarrzzetbum said:

I would love him to be an all conquering Danish Viking - problem is he is not very good at all. Granted defensively he offers something but up front leading the line he has limitations and offers very little in hold up play and linking play with his team mates. Not a criticism but an honest personal assessment. Would love it he he proved me wrong.

I said the same early doors and got laughed at. People thought he'd get ten goals! Behave.

Peter_G

Bedsaddick said:

Slagging our own players off is what we do.
We have a history of it.
Makienok had one bad game against Ipswich and now he has adopted the kishishevRobinson abbotmooneyfrancisMcCormack roll.
Pathetic

Agreed Beds.

A bloke behind me once slagged Keith Jones off just 3 minutes after a game had started. I suggested that perhaps if he got into his seat a bit earlier he could give him grief during the warm up.

Addick Addict

It is extremely rare for a player to improve during the course of a game as a result of being booed and jeered especially someone who is actually trying (as opposed to someone like Hazard who clearly isn't). That anger also rubs off on the rest of the players and will affect the team as a whole.

Equally one man's Mak, is another man's Fox. Or JJ. Or Sarr. Or Ba. And before you know it virtually every member of the team is having abuse hurled at them from some quarter. If he's substituted then vent your spleen. Or, even better, wait 'til the end of the game.

But if you really think that it helps carry on regardless and post in the "marks thread" how you were going to give him a "2" but, as a result of you booing, he improved to the extent that he earned a "10"!!!

kentaddick

I don't know of a single player who's ever played better because of their own fans booing them.

Shrew

kentaddick said:

I don't know of a single player who's ever played better because of their own fans booing them.

Accept when they join a new club and show us how good they are when they get a little support.

ForeverAddickted

Shrew said:

kentaddick said:

I don't know of a single player who's ever played better because of their own fans booing them.

Accept when they join a new club and show us how good they are when they get a little support.

Its ironic because that has happened so many times now, you'd actually think that people would learn

ken_shabby

The whole eam is going down the pan. A forward generally works with what the midfield serve him up, and our midfield is missing in action. The whole thing is wrong on so many levels. Don't boo our players!! There are deserving targets to be found, so where were the boo boys behind the West before the Leeds game (and how long before they start singing 'Mak has got Chlamydia'?). The atmousphere is poisonous now, but attacking our players (KAG got a lot of abuse earlier, and he's just coming out of the youth) is pointless and wrong. The manager tells thm where to play, picks the squad, and in our case, may well be responsable for buying them. KM backs him to the hilt and RD is a douche bag Lay off Mak and aim for the real culprits.

Swisdom

cafckev said:

Hang on a minute. Its his job! He needs to do his job, end of!

Yesterday, i spent 14 hours at work, had 5 hours sleep, then back in today for another 13 hours of bloody stressful work. Why? Because its my job. If i cock up, laps or simply give up, i know i will be in deep doo do and not get my managers say never mind, better luck tomorrow.

He simply needs to do his job and score or help others score by kicking/heading a ball for 90 minutes. If he cant do it, then dont do it.

Do you have 12,00+ people mocking your every move at work?

Swisdom

I'll be honest - I've had enough of a lot of our "fans"

The facebook page is unbelievable. Crude language, threats of violence to players and board members. They are a total embarassment.

I thought and hoped the fans at the ground would be supportive - and we were. But as soon as Bolton scored their first last night the fans went quiet and the players looked nervy. The rest is history.

The treatment of Simon is embarassing - how often do you hear opposition fans slagging off one of their own like that? Slagging off the manager for a substitution when he undoubtedly knows more than joe Public in the stand.

We really do have a part to play. If you don't want to cheer then that's your prerogative. But as my mum always used to say - If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all.

/rant