Total shambles.'Boro' supporter said to me we were one of the worst sides his ever seen & i agreed with him,we don't look like scoring another goal this season. This is by far the worse team i've seen wearing a Charlton Shirt. Thanks Roland.
Firstly I wasn't there but my only observation from this is to ask why.
This is not the worst group of players we have had is it.
Henderson, Solly, Bauer, Diarra, Cousins, Jackson, JBG, Watt all I suspect are rated quite well by most of us ?
The core of actually something quite good. I know there's not much to add to that but why are we now just so desperately awful.
Not saying the squad should be challanging but I don't understand why this group above are now worse than useless.
There are other forces at play.
Agreed. Just watched the brief highlights on Sky. Looks to me like our players are on strike. No urgency, no trying to get the ball off the opponents, pitiful.
"I have honestly never seen a team aimlessly boot the ball up field to nobody from the very first minute . Your game plan was clearly to go for a draw from the off , your big tall lanky albino up front was probably the worst player I've seen in the championship . I understood why you were time wastng because why wouldn't you at 0.0 but even at 1 then 2 then 3.0 your goalkeeper was still time wasting ? Completely baffling ! If I was a charlton fan who drove all the way up north for that I would demand my money back. I fear for you guys , I actually like you but I'm sorry you have been the worst team we have played by a country mile this season"
Have a chat with QPR and Hull fans see if they agree ....situation dictates how we approached the game for 60 mins we defended magnificently as a team ........
I got to page 3 and had to stop reading at this. This is brilliant. I didn't know KF posted on here. There has to be a just a deliberate attempt to wind us up here Colin
I've been on a stag do in Bournemouth this weekend. I only caught a bit of soccer Saturday when they went up to Alan Mcinally at 0-0. He said 'it's only a case of when Boro score not if'. He said it was one of the most one sided games he had ever witnessed.
There is nothing anyone can say to defend this team or club anymore. We're beyond defending. ALL the club needs to take responsibility. The players get defended/protected quite well I think. The anger quite rightly is at the owner, but players like Cousins. Touted, player of the year, he's getting made to look very ordinary this season. Watt, JBG. Where r u? It might seem extreme to pick on our better players, but they should be doing more. There is a reason they are our better players. Solly. I think he's having a terrible season. Looks very slow and out of sorts. We have our fair share of shit as well in the likes of Bergdich and Ba. It's all very, very depressing at the moment.
I also can't buy into this talk of Tuesday night being a massive game and anyone saying it was only Boro, we were never going to get anything. Bollocks. We could be playing the pissing Gummy Bears on Tuesday and we'll still get turned over. No team in this league is Barcelona. We go up there and completely get embarrassed because we stick 11 behind the ball. Pathetic.
KF has already pissed me off with that wet statement - we competed for 60 minutes???? Nonsense. RD and KM will take us down to the conference at this rate
Just seen the highlights and we have yet again been undone by allowing the opposition time around the edge of our box to cross and shoot. It happens so often you'd think they tell the likes of Solly and Fox to stand off their man. When I was a kid all you'd ever here your manager shout is stop the cross whenever the ball was in wide areas.
Wasn't there yesterday but, in recent games, each player looks nowhere near fit enough to compete. Not just injury wise, core fitness is a big problem IMO.
Our new coach insinuated that in his post match interview didn't he? I agree to an extent but we are often just as poor in the first half as we are in the second.....
It may or may not be the case, but for a new manager coming in, it seems an easy get out to criticise the previous regime and claim the players aren't fit enough. We've scored 1 first half goal all season, so clearly fitness isn't the issue. We're just not good enough.
Tim Sherwood said the same about the Villa players, yet 6 months later they were in a worse position than when he took over!
I used to have real pride in my club; form the mid-sixties up until now I have always defended them even while they were going through the toughest of times (relegation, ground sharing et al). But now? I see not a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel (at least not while the mad Belgian is running things). Many Lifers have posted that they have found alternative things to do on Saturday afternoons. A short while ago I would have found that unthinkable.... but I just don't know how much more of this dross I can take, players who have ability consistently underperforming and who seem to care little (just turn up and take the money). We all know where the blame lies but I hold no hope of ANYTHING that CAFC fans do - boycotts, demonstrations etc. The man is NOT for turning - he's 68 now and I would suggest to old to change his ways and he certainly won't be influenced by shouting and screaming from fans throwing their toys out of the pram. I hate to admit it, but unless some rich billionaire makes him a serious offer, we are FUCKED!
"I have honestly never seen a team aimlessly boot the ball up field to nobody from the very first minute . Your game plan was clearly to go for a draw from the off , your big tall lanky albino up front was probably the worst player I've seen in the championship . I understood why you were time wastng because why wouldn't you at 0.0 but even at 1 then 2 then 3.0 your goalkeeper was still time wasting ? Completely baffling ! If I was a charlton fan who drove all the way up north for that I would demand my money back. I fear for you guys , I actually like you but I'm sorry you have been the worst team we have played by a country mile this season"
Have a chat with QPR and Hull fans see if they agree ....situation dictates how we approached the game for 60 mins we defended magnificently as a team ........
We could be playing the pissing Gummy Bears on Tuesday and we'll still get turned over.
Total shambles.'Boro' supporter said to me we were one of the worst sides his ever seen & i agreed with him,we don't look like scoring another goal this season. This is by far the worse team i've seen wearing a Charlton Shirt. Thanks Roland.
Firstly I wasn't there but my only observation from this is to ask why.
This is not the worst group of players we have had is it.
Henderson, Solly, Bauer, Diarra, Cousins, Jackson, JBG, Watt all I suspect are rated quite well by most of us ?
The core of actually something quite good. I know there's not much to add to that but why are we now just so desperately awful.
Not saying the squad should be challanging but I don't understand why this group above are now worse than useless.
There are other forces at play.
Maybe not technically the worst, but certainly the most heartless, gutless collection of individuals since the arse end of the Pardew era.
Being blamed and taking responsibility are different things. In this particular desperately dramatic instance if KF had gone to his first post match press conference and said the players showed no balls and were not good enough then I imagine a few people here would have literally cried.
Being blamed and taking responsibility are different things. In this particular desperately dramatic instance if KF had gone to his first post match press conference and said the players showed no balls and were not good enough then I imagine a few people here would have literally cried.
The first couple of games we played at a high tempo and now we are not getting too much above walking pace. The players seem to have lost fitness rather than gain it with matches. I wonder what they actually do in training as we seem to have lost pace and tempo to our play, we can't score from corners, shoot or defend properly.
Total shambles.'Boro' supporter said to me we were one of the worst sides his ever seen & i agreed with him,we don't look like scoring another goal this season. This is by far the worse team i've seen wearing a Charlton Shirt. Thanks Roland.
Firstly I wasn't there but my only observation from this is to ask why.
This is not the worst group of players we have had is it.
Henderson, Solly, Bauer, Diarra, Cousins, Jackson, JBG, Watt all I suspect are rated quite well by most of us ?
The core of actually something quite good. I know there's not much to add to that but why are we now just so desperately awful.
Not saying the squad should be challanging but I don't understand why this group above are now worse than useless.
There are other forces at play.
Maybe they just need some strong leadership by someone who can inspire them. How are players meant to be inspired by a guy who wasn't much of a player and who's CV suggests he isn't much of a manager either?
Woke up this morning still feeling sick to the pit of my stomach and wishing I had £60 million. Charlton Athletic is the plaything of Mr Duchatelet and he hasn't got a clue how to run us, even to the point of cost cutting because our relegation will wipe out any current savings made. I can see with Euell involved that Lookman travelled with the team. I would like to think there were footballing reasons for that, but I fear it is the nurturing of a potential big money sale for Roland somewhere down the line.
If you had £60m, how much of it would you blow on Charlton? All of it or just some of it?
If I had £60m, I probably wouldn't do much more than buy a season ticket for me and a few good people. Why? Because I've seen the geezers at Fulham/QPR/Blackburn spend £100s of millions and get vey little for their investment. I wouldn't run the risk of doing the lot in two seasons.
Woke up this morning still feeling sick to the pit of my stomach and wishing I had £60 million. Charlton Athletic is the plaything of Mr Duchatelet and he hasn't got a clue how to run us, even to the point of cost cutting because our relegation will wipe out any current savings made. I can see with Euell involved that Lookman travelled with the team. I would like to think there were footballing reasons for that, but I fear it is the nurturing of a potential big money sale for Roland somewhere down the line.
If you had £60m, how much of it would you blow on Charlton? All of it or just some of it?
If I had £60m, I probably wouldn't do much more than buy a season ticket for me and a few good people. Why? Because I've seen the geezers at Fulham/QPR/Blackburn spend £100s of millions and get vey little for their investment. I wouldn't run the risk of doing the lot in two seasons.
Agree, and nor would anyone with half a brain. But many of these types - enourmous egos, large bank balances, and fawning yes-men surrounding them - think they are so much smarter than all who have gone before that they can buck the trend and be the ones to bask in glory and success without it costing them much (or anything). RD believes his network will work. And who knows, it might, except he is trying to do it on a shoestring
Woke up this morning still feeling sick to the pit of my stomach and wishing I had £60 million. Charlton Athletic is the plaything of Mr Duchatelet and he hasn't got a clue how to run us, even to the point of cost cutting because our relegation will wipe out any current savings made. I can see with Euell involved that Lookman travelled with the team. I would like to think there were footballing reasons for that, but I fear it is the nurturing of a potential big money sale for Roland somewhere down the line.
If you had £60m, how much of it would you blow on Charlton? All of it or just some of it?
If I had £60m, I probably wouldn't do much more than buy a season ticket for me and a few good people. Why? Because I've seen the geezers at Fulham/QPR/Blackburn spend £100s of millions and get vey little for their investment. I wouldn't run the risk of doing the lot in two seasons.
All of it because you can't take it with you and I want some enjoyment whilst alive.
The players are stealing another weeks wages, the time the Boro player had on the edge of our penalty box for the second goal was a disgrace. KF should forget his own self interest, name and shame the players that are not putting the effort in.
Sweet baby Jesus and the Orphans, that is like watching Boro play one of those blind teams that have a bell in the ball. More like 5 yards off the pace than 1. Looking increasingly like this years Blackpool.
If you won £60m on a Euromillions rollover, you would probably need most of it to become our saviour and our hero. RD might be looking for £25-£30m to buy CAFC off him, I guess you'd have the obligations re the training ground development to fund, and you'd want to buy some players in the January window. So you will have probably kissed goodbye to the best part of £40m by then. Then there are the annual losses to finance, so as Simonsen said, you could possibly do most of your win in two seasons.
By then of course, you would have become a figure of hatred for everybody on here except Colin!
The players are stealing another weeks wages, the time the Boro player had on the edge of our penalty box for the second goal was a disgrace. KF should forget his own self interest, name and shame the players that are not putting the effort in.
And then you would be slating KF for slating the players publically.
I think there is an issue with fitness. I seem to remember pre season a number of people commenting on the fact a number of players did not seem to get a full 90 minutes more than once or so.
I wonder if Guy had not worked on this not thinking it was to important or if again he was trying to protect a squad to small.
The first couple of games we played at a high tempo and now we are not getting too much above walking pace. The players seem to have lost fitness rather than gain it with matches. I wonder what they actually do in training as we seem to have lost pace and tempo to our play, we can't score from corners, shoot or defend properly.
Yes we need a manager that's gonna work the squad in training to get the match fitness up again! Plus passing drills and shooting drills well everything actually.
If you had £60m, how much of it would you blow on Charlton? All of it or just some of it?
If I had £60m, I probably wouldn't do much more than buy a season ticket for me and a few good people. Why? Because I've seen the geezers at Fulham/QPR/Blackburn spend £100s of millions and get vey little for their investment. I wouldn't run the risk of doing the lot in two seasons.
If I won the Euromillions next weekend I would try and buy Charlton with some of that money (surely could get us for less than £60m?) however as I admittedly know nothing about running a football club, and I know that the business model is ridiculously flawed I would have to have an exit strategy in place after a year. I know that if any Charlton fan were to buy the club now from Roland you would probably be loved forever by the fans and that wouldn't be forgotten, and what I would also do is immediately agree compensation packages with Huddersfield for Chris Powell and Alex Dyer, as well as with Fulham for Alan Curbishley to come in as Director of Football, give them whatever budget I could and say sign whoever you like.
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I've been on a stag do in Bournemouth this weekend. I only caught a bit of soccer Saturday when they went up to Alan Mcinally at 0-0. He said 'it's only a case of when Boro score not if'. He said it was one of the most one sided games he had ever witnessed.
There is nothing anyone can say to defend this team or club anymore. We're beyond defending. ALL the club needs to take responsibility. The players get defended/protected quite well I think. The anger quite rightly is at the owner, but players like Cousins. Touted, player of the year, he's getting made to look very ordinary this season. Watt, JBG. Where r u? It might seem extreme to pick on our better players, but they should be doing more. There is a reason they are our better players. Solly. I think he's having a terrible season. Looks very slow and out of sorts. We have our fair share of shit as well in the likes of Bergdich and Ba. It's all very, very depressing at the moment.
I also can't buy into this talk of Tuesday night being a massive game and anyone saying it was only Boro, we were never going to get anything. Bollocks. We could be playing the pissing Gummy Bears on Tuesday and we'll still get turned over. No team in this league is Barcelona. We go up there and completely get embarrassed because we stick 11 behind the ball. Pathetic.
KF has already pissed me off with that wet statement - we competed for 60 minutes???? Nonsense. RD and KM will take us down to the conference at this rate
Neil Redfearn: Rotherham United players must 'take responsibility'
Rotherham's 3-0 Championship defeat by Derby is unacceptable, according to Millers manager Neil Redfearn.
This is the kind of thing a manager of a team at the bottom who have just lost 0-3 should be saying.
It may or may not be the case, but for a new manager coming in, it seems an easy get out to criticise the previous regime and claim the players aren't fit enough. We've scored 1 first half goal all season, so clearly fitness isn't the issue. We're just not good enough.
Tim Sherwood said the same about the Villa players, yet 6 months later they were in a worse position than when he took over!
If I had £60m, I probably wouldn't do much more than buy a season ticket for me and a few good people. Why? Because I've seen the geezers at Fulham/QPR/Blackburn spend £100s of millions and get vey little for their investment. I wouldn't run the risk of doing the lot in two seasons.
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By then of course, you would have become a figure of hatred for everybody on here except Colin!
I wonder if Guy had not worked on this not thinking it was to important or if again he was trying to protect a squad to small.
Here's hoping for next week's ticket to come in!