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Keeping Masi on for this race was like giving the World Cup Final to Kettle to ref.4
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the FIA will back their man, and then it ends up at CAS, and Hamilton ends up world champ1
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Who is the better driver, Schumacher or Hamilton though?DamoNorthStand said:And if he does walk away, he walks away as statistically the greatest of all time.He can leave with his head held high - and then Lando and George can take it the title back to Britain in the future.0 -
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Who is the better driver, Schumacher or Hamilton though?DamoNorthStand said:And if he does walk away, he walks away as statistically the greatest of all time.He can leave with his head held high - and then Lando and George can take it the title back to Britain in the future.
Hamilton - easily.
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Hamilton should walk away when he decides too. I believe he is still the best driver. Max is probably quicker marginally, he is a younger man, but driving is so much more than that. As Hamilton himself said before the race, he would not be in the position he was as a 25 year old. The Hamilton story has a few chapters to go yet.2
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Schumacher was better…..…..…..PrincessFiona said:
Who is the better driver, Schumacher or Hamilton though?DamoNorthStand said:And if he does walk away, he walks away as statistically the greatest of all time.He can leave with his head held high - and then Lando and George can take it the title back to Britain in the future.
………,At cheating.1 -
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Strange, I seem to remember Hamilton being DSQ in Brazil for a very marginal error...
But Max doesnt get a 5sec penalty for doing something the Stewards admit happened
At least he's FINALLY getting some favouritism from the stewards, right??3 -
Not speaking for those on here who don't like him, but there seems a certain type who have an issue with him. Saw a tweet earlier celebrating the result with the line 'Go woke, go broke'.BR7_addick said:Thanks Lord Romford and Leeds Addick. I find it strange that we’ve someone so good at something and we’re not singing from the hill tops about it! But then again like I said I’ve no idea as I don’t follow it at all.
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That finish was frankly plain unfair...I am no great Hamilton fan but that was just wrong2
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I think that, given now the outcome has potentially been decided by an FIA error in that the race should have been finished under safety car conditions if the correct rules had been applied, the only way this will be resolved is by CAS.
A shame really. Formula 1 has long suffered from being dull to tears from Merc domination. I don’t hate Max or Lewis. It’s just been great to have edge of your seat racing this season.
Ignoring who takes the title this year, I hope the reg changes don’t revert things back to the 6 years prior to this one and also, that George Russell makes it 3 people battling for the World Championship.2 -
If you were looking for a fair race, you would do something akin to what some refs do when there has been a thrashing and don't play any or very little added time. A fair race today would have been allowed to end under the safety car. I think this striving to create racing drama has been allowed to go too far but this pattern has been happening for quite a few races. I don't think it has been there to favour one driver over another but to promote the product. But when the dust settles there is a real danger of undermining the product. Formula One went too far today. The teams need to come together and change it for next season rather than fight it for this. Masi needs to be kicked out of the sport.1
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No final decision has been announced on the last protest BUT...
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It is like me racing Usain Bolt and the race gets stopped and restarted from just behind the finishing line and I win due to my fatter stomach. Verstappen wasn't in that race at all.10
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I can't see this not ending up in court whatever way it goes.2
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Just seen that the company lawyer was there with his family in hospitality as a guest - as a number of suppliers were as part of an end of season thank you.
Visions of Legal Larry a few glasses of champers down and munching on the lobster - when Toto gets on the blower:
”Where are you?”
”Er - Paddock Club getting pissed”
”Get the fuck down here now - we will pay you time and a half”.
Legal Larry stuffs a few cold cuts in his pocket and leaves the fam stuck talking to the guy who cleans the toilets back at Brackley.5 -
I genuinely don't see how they have a leg to stand on going by the rule book. You can't let 5 cars unlap but not the rest just because you feel like 'having a race'.
However if they don't rule in Mercedes favour i'd be very surprised if they don't take it to CAS.3 -
What a farcical situation
I also feel sorry for Vestappen, as imagine how he'd feel if he won the title 4 hours, only to lose it now or in the courts in January. And all the emotion of winning the title will feel pretty cold now.4 -
They'll go with the Race Director's discretionChris_from_Sidcup said:I genuinely don't see how they have a leg to stand on going by the rule book. You can't let 5 caps unlap but not the rest just because you feel like 'having a race'.
However if they don't rule in Mercedes favour i'd be very surprised if they don't take it to CAS.0 -
So the FIA have deleted their "Congrats on the WDC win Max" tweetForeverAddickted said:No final decision has been announced on the last protest BUT...2 - Sponsored links:
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Even if he keeps the win it'll probably remain bitter sweet as he wont have had the joy of celebrating properly.killerandflash said:What a farcical situation
I also feel sorry for Vestappen, as imagine how he'd feel if he won the title 4 hours, only to lose it now or in the courts in January. And all the emotion of winning the title will feel pretty cold now.1 -
Especially as Verstappen had the while race then to overtake Hamilton & lead. Hamilton had just that last lap to try & pass Verstappen.JiMMy 85 said:
That's not how it works, and those issues are not comparable.seth plum said:To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.2 -
In fact Hamilton would have benefited if he'd given up the place at the start and was running second when the safety car was called...golfaddick said:
Especially as Verstappen had the while race then to overtake Hamilton & lead. Hamilton had just that last lap to try & pass Verstappen.JiMMy 85 said:
That's not how it works, and those issues are not comparable.seth plum said:To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.2 -
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I can’t see any situation where Hamilton wins the championship. If they rule that the FIA didn’t apply the rules correctly you can’t award Hamilton a race win that he didn’t win?2
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Agree RE Max. As much as I dislike him today was not his fault at all. Same could be said for Hamilton. He’s feel pretty hollow if it’s awarded to him. He lives driving, so to not have that experience of the chequered flag to win the championship after how hard he has battled the last few weeks will annoy him.ForeverAddickted said:
Even if he keeps the win it'll probably remain bitter sweet as he wont have had the joy of celebrating properly.killerandflash said:What a farcical situation
I also feel sorry for Vestappen, as imagine how he'd feel if he won the title 4 hours, only to lose it now or in the courts in January. And all the emotion of winning the title will feel pretty cold now.Nobody comes out of this looking or feeling good.4 -
Yeah Max Verstappen is World Champion0
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This will end up in court, no way the FIA would have thrown the stewards under the bus tonight, but the CAS will have no problems of doing that5
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If the rules had been applied correctly it is a race he would have won, with the final lap behind the safety car.Leeds_Addick said:I can’t see any situation where Hamilton wins the championship. If they rule that the FIA didn’t apply the rules correctly you can’t award Hamilton a race win that he didn’t win?2 -
FIA will argue that the race director is able to overrule/bypass the rules as a judgement call. There was a precedent for this as recently as last week.1
