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Has football jumped the shark?
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No, it's not what I feel is important.Greenie said:So this is about what sport Chizz feels is important.
If it was what *I* thought was important, this wouldn't be the order of sports on the BBC Sport home page today...
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You are confusing media hype and column inches with public popularity.Chizz said:
No, it's not what I feel is important.Greenie said:So this is about what sport Chizz feels is important.
If it was what *I* thought was important, this wouldn't be the order of sports on the BBC Sport home page today...
For weeks I have had to scroll through 6 or 7 pages of Rugby in the sports section of the Times to get to the one or two football pages. Not for a second did I think 'Rugby is getting as popular as football'. And despite the hype I can honestly say I could not name one of the current England rugby first team or recognise one if they walked through my front door now!0 -
Yet you still can't understand the ridiculous comparison you're making, someone gave you proper stats earlier in the thread, yet you've chosen to ignore that.Chizz said:
You're wrong. I think football is more important than tennis, in at least fifty weeks every year. However, the newspapers, news websites and TV and radio news broadcasts have "demoted" the Premiers League this weekend to a position lower than tennis, than F! and than rugby. Is that so hard to comprehend?IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.
This isn't apples and oranges at all, it's more like apples and rabbits.3 -
I can't speak for the other countries but it's my understanding that china's actual population is a lot higher than official stats show.cabbles said:
Scary the populations of India and China.IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.
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without wanting to sound too callous, I understand there is nothing physically that can be done, but that's not great.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I can't speak for the other countries but it's my understanding that china's actual population is a lot higher than official stats show.cabbles said:
Scary the populations of India and China.IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.0 -
Well someone at work reads The Sun, and todays sport was 90% football. It was the same when i looked at my old mans Sunday Mirror yesterday.0
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Without wanting to open off topic debates about immigration, the population of the UK isn't exactly known either!0
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Oh hey now, maybe this thread could get even better!0
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It's a moving target, only achieved by counting in an inaccurate way once every 10 years.killerandflash said:Without wanting to open off topic debates about immigration, the population of the UK isn't exactly known either!
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Well, the one child policy helps.cabbles said:
without wanting to sound too callous, I understand there is nothing physically that can be done, but that's not great.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I can't speak for the other countries but it's my understanding that china's actual population is a lot higher than official stats show.cabbles said:
Scary the populations of India and China.IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.0 -
The BBC highlights women's football but we all know that's unimportant.Chizz said:
No, it's not what I feel is important.Greenie said:So this is about what sport Chizz feels is important.
If it was what *I* thought was important, this wouldn't be the order of sports on the BBC Sport home page today...3 -
Can we all agree that football hasn't "jumped the shark" in terms of doing things differently in a desperate attempt to get the punters in, like putting on cheerleaders, and letting birds of prey fly around stadiums etc......erm....oh hang on....1
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Which type of apples....it can make a big difference to the aboveStu_of_Kunming said:
Yet you still can't understand the ridiculous comparison you're making, someone gave you proper stats earlier in the thread, yet you've chosen to ignore that.Chizz said:
You're wrong. I think football is more important than tennis, in at least fifty weeks every year. However, the newspapers, news websites and TV and radio news broadcasts have "demoted" the Premiers League this weekend to a position lower than tennis, than F! and than rugby. Is that so hard to comprehend?IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.
This isn't apples and oranges at all, it's more like apples and rabbits.0 -
has this been adhered to Stu?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Well, the one child policy helps.cabbles said:
without wanting to sound too callous, I understand there is nothing physically that can be done, but that's not great.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I can't speak for the other countries but it's my understanding that china's actual population is a lot higher than official stats show.cabbles said:
Scary the populations of India and China.IA said:
List of the 8 largest countries of the world, population in millionsChizz said:
Those events weren't bigger, for me. They are just more important, globally, than the three Premier League matches. That's why the football results and stories were widely relegated below those other three on the news, on newspapers, on websites, etc.IA said:
You were unaware of an event that would have been very big for its fans, even though its attendance was higher than the rugby match you cited as the main sporting event of the weekend.Chizz said:
I've read this post a few times and I'm honestly baffled as to what is you're asking.IA said:
OK.Chizz said:
No reason other than I was unaware of it.IA said:
There was a higher attendance for the Gaelic Football match today than for the England-Fiji match.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
Is there a reason why you excluded this event from your list of sports that leave football in the shade?
Can you apply that logic for rugby, tennis and F1? Obviously you're aware of them, but how about other people around the world? For the tennis and F1, you wouldn't need to look around the world - within the UK would be enough.
Do you think there might be a large number of people who were unaware of the Davis Cup semi-finals, Rugby World Cup and Singapore Grand Prix? For the RWC, you might have to look worldwide, possibly to any one of the biggest 8 nations in the world. But for the Davis Cup and Singapore Grand Prix, it wouldn't be hard to find many many people in the UK who don't know/care about them. I was only aware of the Davis Cup because of a thread on here. I saw an ad for the Singapore GP, but it could have been next week or whenever, I didn't pay attention to the ad.
Just because these other events were bigger for you than the Premier League matches doesn't mean that the same applies to others.
Going back to the Gaelic Football match. It was the final, so the biggest Irish sporting event of the year. I walked past an Irish pub today in a European city. It had a blackboard outside listing which sporting events would be on the TV screens through the day. All three Premier League matches, obviously.
I wanted to highlight where it seems obvious - to me, at least - that the Premier League's "crown" as the world's best-loved sporting competition has slipped. Formula 1 has a massive following across Europe and is dramatically increasing in the far east. The RWC is of more importance this week, this month and next month, than the Premier League. Next Saturday, for instance, the Premier League will again be relegated by the media below the RWC. Even the tennis (tennis! No-one bothers with tennis!) got more column inches and TV news time than most of the Premier League items on the news.
China 1372
India 1277
United States 322
Indonesia 255
Brazil 205
Pakistan 191
Nigeria 182
Bangladesh 159
From this list of countries - total population just under 4 billion persons - can you please estimate the number of people who would be interested in the Rugby World Cup?
Also, please estimate the number of people who would be interested in a Davis Cup semi-final between Great Britain and Australia.
Or how many British people were watching the Davis Cup semi-final between Belgium and whoever.
This thread is entirely about what you think is more important or more interesting. You just don't seem to be aware of your own bias.0 -
Almost as inaccurate as your smug presumption that they don't. If you extrapolate the average viewing figures - TV and actual attendances - across all the sports you mentioned and over a year-long period, the others will be miles behind football. And that is a fact.Chizz said:
Is it? Still? Will there be more people watching the Premier League today than the GP? Or the World Cup?SELR_addicks said:
Worldwide viewing figures won't be in your favour, the Premier League is massive around most countries in the world.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
If you're really expecting the Davis cup to be beating Football in the ratings you'll be disappointed.
The point is this - the Premier League's smug presumption that "everyone watches English football" may be increasingly inaccurate.
Case dismissed.1 -
Comparing the pinnacle international tournament of one sport with the day-to-day domestic fixture list of another is vacuous and pointless. What proof do you have that fewer people are watching today than say, three years ago? Absolutely none whatsoever. And if you did, you'd expect that to be evidenced by a reduction in TV money to Premier League clubs. That's happened, right? Oh, no, it hasn't.Chizz said:
The point of the thread is to highlight the extent to which Premier League football has plummeted in terms of importance and how it has captured the public's imagination and share-of-wallet.1StevieG said:
I am not a rugby fan but surely you would expect the rugby matches to be the highest attended games as it is a World Cup. If people are losing interest in football then it is probably because of the antics that twats like Costa bring to the game.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
I seem to remember (whether this is true or not) the Premier League was always the most important or one of the most important two events of any weekend. This weekend it seems not to be in the top three. Is it going to keep plummeting?0 -
Yesterday, the Premier League wasn't among the three most important sports in British media.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:
Comparing the pinnacle international tournament of one sport with the day-to-day domestic fixture list of another is vacuous and pointless. What evidence do you have that fewer people are watching today than say, three years ago? Absolutely none whatsoever. And if you did, you'd expect that to be evidenced by a reduction in TV money to Premier League clubs. That's happened, right? Oh, no, it hasn't.Chizz said:
The point of the thread is to highlight the extent to which Premier League football has plummeted in terms of importance and how it has captured the public's imagination and share-of-wallet.1StevieG said:
I am not a rugby fan but surely you would expect the rugby matches to be the highest attended games as it is a World Cup. If people are losing interest in football then it is probably because of the antics that twats like Costa bring to the game.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
I seem to remember (whether this is true or not) the Premier League was always the most important or one of the most important two events of any weekend. This weekend it seems not to be in the top three. Is it going to keep plummeting?
That's uncommon.
However, is it becoming increasingly more common?0 -
What media???Chizz said:
Yesterday, the Premier League wasn't among the three most important sports in British media.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:
Comparing the pinnacle international tournament of one sport with the day-to-day domestic fixture list of another is vacuous and pointless. What evidence do you have that fewer people are watching today than say, three years ago? Absolutely none whatsoever. And if you did, you'd expect that to be evidenced by a reduction in TV money to Premier League clubs. That's happened, right? Oh, no, it hasn't.Chizz said:
The point of the thread is to highlight the extent to which Premier League football has plummeted in terms of importance and how it has captured the public's imagination and share-of-wallet.1StevieG said:
I am not a rugby fan but surely you would expect the rugby matches to be the highest attended games as it is a World Cup. If people are losing interest in football then it is probably because of the antics that twats like Costa bring to the game.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
I seem to remember (whether this is true or not) the Premier League was always the most important or one of the most important two events of any weekend. This weekend it seems not to be in the top three. Is it going to keep plummeting?
That's uncommon.
However, is it becoming increasingly more common?
It was in the popular Sunday papers, social media and Sky TV.
A run of the mill set of Premier League fixtures still got as much coverage on the BBC and ITV news as all the other 'big' events you speak of as well.0 -
Maybe in The Daily Chizz. I've just had a little look at The Mail and The Sun, and your claim doesn't stack up (again).Chizz said:
Yesterday, the Premier League wasn't among the three most important sports in British media.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:
Comparing the pinnacle international tournament of one sport with the day-to-day domestic fixture list of another is vacuous and pointless. What evidence do you have that fewer people are watching today than say, three years ago? Absolutely none whatsoever. And if you did, you'd expect that to be evidenced by a reduction in TV money to Premier League clubs. That's happened, right? Oh, no, it hasn't.Chizz said:
The point of the thread is to highlight the extent to which Premier League football has plummeted in terms of importance and how it has captured the public's imagination and share-of-wallet.1StevieG said:
I am not a rugby fan but surely you would expect the rugby matches to be the highest attended games as it is a World Cup. If people are losing interest in football then it is probably because of the antics that twats like Costa bring to the game.Chizz said:
It would be interesting to see the relative worldwide viewing figures for those four sports this weekend. There are millions of F1 fans across Europe and Asia who, this weekend, couldn't care less about English football. That's got to be a worry for the Premier League.SELR_addicks said:I don't see why the football is less important than the F1. It's rubbish to watch nowadays and a prime example of a sport that has jumped the shark.
Likewise, this same weekend, the highest attendance have been for rugby matches, not football matches.
If football is losing out to other sports in terms of tv and live audiences, does that mean it's time for change?
I seem to remember (whether this is true or not) the Premier League was always the most important or one of the most important two events of any weekend. This weekend it seems not to be in the top three. Is it going to keep plummeting?
That's uncommon.
However, is it becoming increasingly more common?2 - Sponsored links:
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Really, what's wrong with football is that not enough players are claiming state benefits1
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Too many of them are homegrown, English roses.1
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Can someone do a blingee of Jordan Cousins as an English rose pls, preferably in some period drama0
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I may be wrong as I don't have any interest in car racing, but is F1 popular in the US. I thought it was all NASCAR.
My local paper's sports pages are full of Canadian Football (i.e. our equivalent of the NFL), Ice Hockey & Baseball. The Premier League however is pretty popular & easy to access on TV - the same in the States where NBC carries games every weekend. I would say it is rapid;y getting ever more popular this side of the pond - along with the MLS (which is getting more & more professional in the way it is covered & broadcast).
I didn't even realise the Rugby World Cup was on until this weekend & Canada has a team competing - not much coverage that I have noticed & I would imagine the interest level is even less than Canadian Cricket - which benefits from the large Asian populations in the major cities.
Tennis - who knows? It's kind of always on a minor Sports Channel any time of the day or night - it might be the same match for all I know.2 -
Not relevant, sorry. Chizz isn't talking about the actual global media or the opinions/priorities of actual people around the world.Oakster said:I may be wrong as I don't have any interest in car racing, but is F1 popular in the US. I thought it was all NASCAR.
My local paper's sports pages are full of Canadian Football (i.e. our equivalent of the NFL), Ice Hockey & Baseball. The Premier League however is pretty popular & easy to access on TV - the same in the States where NBC carries games every weekend. I would say it is rapid;y getting ever more popular this side of the pond - along with the MLS (which is getting more & more professional in the way it is covered & broadcast).
I didn't even realise the Rugby World Cup was on until this weekend & Canada has a team competing - not much coverage that I have noticed & I would imagine the interest level is even less than Canadian Cricket - which benefits from the large Asian populations in the major cities.
Tennis - who knows? It's kind of always on a minor Sports Channel any time of the day or night - it might be the same match for all I know.2 -
Chizz have a word with him mateOakster said:I may be wrong as I don't have any interest in car racing, but is F1 popular in the US. I thought it was all NASCAR.
My local paper's sports pages are full of Canadian Football (i.e. our equivalent of the NFL), Ice Hockey & Baseball. The Premier League however is pretty popular & easy to access on TV - the same in the States where NBC carries games every weekend. I would say it is rapid;y getting ever more popular this side of the pond - along with the MLS (which is getting more & more professional in the way it is covered & broadcast).
I didn't even realise the Rugby World Cup was on until this weekend & Canada has a team competing - not much coverage that I have noticed & I would imagine the interest level is even less than Canadian Cricket - which benefits from the large Asian populations in the major cities.
Tennis - who knows? It's kind of always on a minor Sports Channel any time of the day or night - it might be the same match for all I know.
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I was all ready to say something patronising like 'ahh now many countries develop some sort of rugby-esque national football and this is one of the sillier ones'
but then I noticed that the game had no rules and was a grand chaotic free-for-all with a really heavy ball that makes everyone fall over
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Now I've found the following almost art-movie documentary. Watch if you like Soviet historical realism
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