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Ashley Maynard-Brewer - Interview discussing earlier injury woes (p14)

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  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,556
    Scoham said:
    I can’t say I’ve seen anything particularly world class from him but every time I’ve seen someone speak about him they can’t stop talking about how highly rated he is.

    He definitely needs a new contract and a first team place next season. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,047
    Can see why he's struggled with concussion a few times... Like Rob Elliot says
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,021
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Can see why he's struggled with concussion a few times... Like Rob Elliot says
    Would be typical of our injury records that he's very good and yet always out recovering from concussion.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Top lad is Ash and a fine goalie. This season is doing him the world of good and I really hope he comes back to. Is and gets the number one jersey next year.  Really not convinced by Big Mac (Who is even that big)
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,462
    edited February 2022
    I'm not sure but I think our AMB may have had that nose injury before:

    Scar is visible here: 


    As others have said, he seems a decent keeper for his age and as we've seen with Bazunu, they will only improve by playing competitive football. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,941
    North Lower Neil said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Can see why he's struggled with concussion a few times... Like Rob Elliot says
    Would be typical of our injury records that he's very good and yet always out recovering from concussion.
    And people question why a 17 year old keeper like James Beadle would want to go to a Premier League Club? AMB will have been with us for five years and 23 before he plays a single League game for us. Rob Elliott was 22, Dillon Phillips was 21 and Nick Pope was 22 before they did likewise. Should they stay because our League 1 keeping coach is better? Because the money is much better? Because of the opportunity to go out on loan to a club that plays at a higher level than us? These are all reasons for not doing so and there is also that possibility that injury might cause premature retirement.  

    A keeper's position is unique for very many reasons. But the biggest one of all is that there is only one position for one. A defender can be an FB, CB, WB or even a midfielder. A midfielder might be able to play across the middle and even at the back or up top. A forward can play wide or through the middle. Hence why we've seen the likes of Burstow, Elerewe, Campbell and Kanu being given opportunities in their teens. Beadle simply would not have been offered that.

    Let's hope that AMB proves to be as good as is hoped and that he stays injury free. But let's not kid ourselves that he won't go the same way as all the other keepers I've named. It's just the money we hopefully receive for his services will be commensurate with that ability.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,436
    Being 16th in the league with an experienced goalie who has had an average/below par season, or to have blooded a very promising goalkeeper for the season. 

    Hindsight management of course, but that's part of being a fan.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,941
    mendonca said:
    Being 16th in the league with an experienced goalie who has had an average/below par season, or to have blooded a very promising goalkeeper for the season. 

    Hindsight management of course, but that's part of being a fan.
    We are no different to most other clubs when it comes to blooding young keepers - send them out on loan, let them learn their game there and make their mistakes for those clubs. Who can forget how some fans ripped Pope apart when he eventually got a chance at the age of 22 for a few goals that resulted from him parrying the ball?  I believe that AMB also made a few errors early on in this spell on loan and AMB might well have lost his place with us as a result.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I think that in purely ability as a goalkeeper goes, Craig might well be third choice in the first team pecking order next season.
    Leaving out investments and contracts and all that, if competition for places in a footballing sense is appropriate for outfield players, it is appropriate for goalkeepers too.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,941
    seth plum said:
    I think that in purely ability as a goalkeeper goes, Craig might well be third choice in the first team pecking order next season.
    Leaving out investments and contracts and all that, if competition for places in a footballing sense is appropriate for outfield players, it is appropriate for goalkeepers too.
    It should be but it rarely works out in reality like that though with keepers, especially outside the PL. You tend to have a first choice, one that is established with first team experience albeit possibly elsewhere as second choice and then a young up and coming keeper as third choice. More likely that should he not find even a place on the bench he will be allowed to go to another club especially as we wouldn't want to have a drain on our finances sitting in the stands. At worse he will either be second choice or off.

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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,321
    Addick Addict said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Can see why he's struggled with concussion a few times... Like Rob Elliot says
    Would be typical of our injury records that he's very good and yet always out recovering from concussion.
    And people question why a 17 year old keeper like James Beadle would want to go to a Premier League Club? AMB will have been with us for five years and 23 before he plays a single League game for us. Rob Elliott was 22, Dillon Phillips was 21 and Nick Pope was 22 before they did likewise. Should they stay because our League 1 keeping coach is better? Because the money is much better? Because of the opportunity to go out on loan to a club that plays at a higher level than us? These are all reasons for not doing so and there is also that possibility that injury might cause premature retirement.  

    A keeper's position is unique for very many reasons. But the biggest one of all is that there is only one position for one. A defender can be an FB, CB, WB or even a midfielder. A midfielder might be able to play across the middle and even at the back or up top. A forward can play wide or through the middle. Hence why we've seen the likes of Burstow, Elerewe, Campbell and Kanu being given opportunities in their teens. Beadle simply would not have been offered that.

    Let's hope that AMB proves to be as good as is hoped and that he stays injury free. But let's not kid ourselves that he won't go the same way as all the other keepers I've named. It's just the money we hopefully receive for his services will be commensurate with that ability.
    Rob Elliot on that Podcast recently said that as a Charlton fan, when he was stood on the side line about to be subbed on for his first game his legs were shaking he was so excited, he looked down at our badge and thought to himself that no matter what happened in his career from that moment he had made it and fulfilled a dream.  He then came on and played in front of his Charlton supporting family.  What a moment for him.  Beadle won't have that.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,941
    edited February 2022
    Athletico Charlton said:
    Addick Addict said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Can see why he's struggled with concussion a few times... Like Rob Elliot says
    Would be typical of our injury records that he's very good and yet always out recovering from concussion.
    And people question why a 17 year old keeper like James Beadle would want to go to a Premier League Club? AMB will have been with us for five years and 23 before he plays a single League game for us. Rob Elliott was 22, Dillon Phillips was 21 and Nick Pope was 22 before they did likewise. Should they stay because our League 1 keeping coach is better? Because the money is much better? Because of the opportunity to go out on loan to a club that plays at a higher level than us? These are all reasons for not doing so and there is also that possibility that injury might cause premature retirement.  

    A keeper's position is unique for very many reasons. But the biggest one of all is that there is only one position for one. A defender can be an FB, CB, WB or even a midfielder. A midfielder might be able to play across the middle and even at the back or up top. A forward can play wide or through the middle. Hence why we've seen the likes of Burstow, Elerewe, Campbell and Kanu being given opportunities in their teens. Beadle simply would not have been offered that.

    Let's hope that AMB proves to be as good as is hoped and that he stays injury free. But let's not kid ourselves that he won't go the same way as all the other keepers I've named. It's just the money we hopefully receive for his services will be commensurate with that ability.
    Rob Elliot on that Podcast recently said that as a Charlton fan, when he was stood on the side line about to be subbed on for his first game his legs were shaking he was so excited, he looked down at our badge and thought to himself that no matter what happened in his career from that moment he had made it and fulfilled a dream.  He then came on and played in front of his Charlton supporting family.  What a moment for him.  Beadle won't have that.
    Neither will his brother get the opportunity to play in front of his beloved club or family. The team he supported home and away.

    Of course, Elliott spent a decade mostly counting his money on the bench or from the stand. On the basis of that fact alone, I'm sure that had a PL club come in for him when he was 17 he'd have been off before he had time to say "where do I sign?" Hopefully Beadle will prove good enough to hold down a place at the highest club level and go on to play for England too.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    not seen this anywhere else but his season is over as he's dislocated his shoulder 

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/ross-county/4252028/ash-maynard-brewer-final-game-for-ross-county-following-dislocated-shoulder/ 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,047
    This is my one concern with him as our Number One going forward.

    He seems an excellent Goalkeeper - But I've never known one to be so injured
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,397
    ForeverAddickted said:
    This is my one concern with him as our Number One going forward.

    He seems an excellent Goalkeeper - But I've never known one to be so injured
    Ideally AMB is the real deal, has a good pre-season and is given the No.1. MacG still has a contract so keep him as No.2, I’m not his biggest fan but doubt there is a better No.2 GK in league 1 and if AMB struggles then he’s a decent enough replacement. 

    I always think it’s better to have 2 GKs competing for No.1 rather than what we’ve had this year. I think it always brought the best out of Steer, Amos and Phillips when there is a threat of being dropped if they weren’t up to it 
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 834
    AMB has been wildly inconsistent this year.  Ross County has only won 5 times in league while he has started and by most accounts there have been a fair amount of soft goals.  Are we sure we want him as our number 1 next year?
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Bostonaddick said:
    AMB has been wildly inconsistent this year.  Ross County has only won 5 times in league while he has started and by most accounts there have been a fair amount of soft goals.  Are we sure we want him as our number 1 next year?
    Everyone is an expert on here. Never forget that life rule.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,436
    He does seem rather injury prone. Sadly, some goalies happen to be so. 
  • Addickinedi
    Addickinedi Posts: 151
    Seen him s few times this season and thought pretty good. The team are not great and he has kept them in games more than once.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,055
    Addickinedi said:
    Seen him s few times this season and thought pretty good. The team are not great and he has kept them in games more than once.
    You know you should not comment on his ability by watching him, it should be done by looking at statistics or reading others opinions  :)

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  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,620
    Wasn't one of his "injuries" a concussion protocol thing last season, where Chuks whacked the ball straight at his head?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2022
    aliwibble said:
    Wasn't one of his "injuries" a concussion protocol thing last season, where Chuks whacked the ball straight at his head?
    Sure was.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,047
    aliwibble said:
    Wasn't one of his "injuries" a concussion protocol thing last season, where Chuks whacked the ball straight at his head?
    Felt like he got concussion a couple of times last season
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 694
    ForeverAddickted said:
    This is my one concern with him as our Number One going forward.

    He seems an excellent Goalkeeper - But I've never known one to be so injured
    Stephen Henderson?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,047
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,047
    edited June 2022
    Feels a step backwards after his spell with Ross County

    Little bit disappointed by this one - Although glad he's not going to waste a season on the bench
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,523
    Quotes from Neil Harris here - talking about goalkeepers before AMB signed.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,895
    Definitely makes the MacGillivray situation more interesting.

    And I got pelters a couple days ago for saying AMB was being frozen out!

    Pleased to see he'll be playing more football but starting to wonder if he'll ever get his chance at the Valley.
  • CharltontillidieCOYR
    CharltontillidieCOYR Posts: 781
    This is his season to really impress do well stay fit and play as many games as poss down the road at the gills and he can come back next season and really push for a start with us if he is as good as everyone seems to think he will show it in league 2 at least


  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,765
    edited June 2022
    Why is AMB so highly rated? Not meant as a dig, genuine question. How much of him have we seen?

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