Palace fans: watching their team play in the Premier league for the last nine years.
I genuinely don’t feel jealous in any way of them.
They’ve been there for 9 years, made up the numbers and not won anything. Not too dissimilar to our time there in the early 2000s.
If they had done a Leicester, or got into Europe, or won a cup - then I’d be envious. But what is there to be jealous of? The fact they get to watch bigger sides come to their home stadium?
Palace fans had 29,000 Balloons confiscated before Wembley. I just don't understand them at all, go to the pub before the game like everyone else and soak up the atmosphere. What's wrong with them?
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
They’ve had a better run of it the last ten years, no doubt. But I stand by the point that I have zero jealousy.
For me, what defines a football club are its supporters and the light they put the club in. And in our darkest times over the last ten years, our fans have shown that what we can do off the pitch is just as important as what happens on it.
And that makes me prouder than the odd upset win against a top 6 club and continual 13th placed finishes.
In 20-30 years time, who is going to care about Palace’s mid table Premier League finishes?
Palace fans had 29,000 Balloons confiscated before Wembley. I just don't understand them at all, go to the pub before the game like everyone else and soak up the atmosphere. What's wrong with them?
His son Rupert and him travelled down from Wotton-under-Edge in Gloucestershire.
Their biggest game of the season and it wasn't even Chelsea's biggest game in that week.
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
I will never understand people seeing an opportunity to laugh at Palace for something embarrassing they've done and using it to cry about how they're doing much better than we are and they'd happily trade places. That's something Palace fans would say! Bloody hell, is it just Charlton fans who can't even laugh at a bloke dressed like an eagle without whining about their own club or are all football fans like this?
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
I've seen Charlton at Cardiff and Swansea.
Don't forget Wrexham twice both losses 6-0 and 3-2 (I haven't seen us at Swansea).
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Who cares ?
We played in Europe in that Anglo Italian Cup. I was there in mighty Brescia,.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
They’ve had a better run of it the last ten years, no doubt. But I stand by the point that I have zero jealousy.
For me, what defines a football club are its supporters and the light they put the club in. And in our darkest times over the last ten years, our fans have shown that what we can do off the pitch is just as important as what happens on it.
And that makes me prouder than the odd upset win against a top 6 club and continual 13th placed finishes.
In 20-30 years time, who is going to care about Palace’s mid table Premier League finishes?
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
They’ve had a better run of it the last ten years, no doubt. But I stand by the point that I have zero jealousy.
For me, what defines a football club are its supporters and the light they put the club in. And in our darkest times over the last ten years, our fans have shown that what we can do off the pitch is just as important as what happens on it.
And that makes me prouder than the odd upset win against a top 6 club and continual 13th placed finishes.
In 20-30 years time, who is going to care about Palace’s mid table Premier League finishes?
Can't agree with any of that
So when you think about man utd , arsenal, chelsea, spurs , barca , real madrid you think of their fan base before the top players each have had? Every club probably has a few weirdos supporting them
You would rather finish mid table league 1 than prem and an fa cup semi final?
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Who cares ?
Me. It’s the only thing we’ve got over the others history wise.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
They’ve had a better run of it the last ten years, no doubt. But I stand by the point that I have zero jealousy.
For me, what defines a football club are its supporters and the light they put the club in. And in our darkest times over the last ten years, our fans have shown that what we can do off the pitch is just as important as what happens on it.
And that makes me prouder than the odd upset win against a top 6 club and continual 13th placed finishes.
In 20-30 years time, who is going to care about Palace’s mid table Premier League finishes?
Can't agree with any of that
So when you think about man utd , arsenal, chelsea, spurs , barca , real madrid you think of their fan base before the top players each have had? Every club probably has a few weirdos supporting them
You would rather finish mid table league 1 than prem and an fa cup semi final?
We’re not talking about clubs/brands at a level of Chelsea, Madrid, Man United are we? We’re talking about Crystal Palace - whose best player was on loan with us about 2 years ago.
If you or anyone else is jealous of Crystal Palace, then that’s how you feel. It’s not how I feel.
I love Charlton for the club that it is and the fanbase it has. I couldn’t give a monkeys what division any other club is in, I wouldn’t ever trade in what makes our club great just to have Premier League football and a fanbase like theirs. And if you want to disagree on it, that’s fine. Some people will hold more weight with what happens on the pitch compared to what happens off of it - I completely get that.
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Who cares ?
Me. It’s the only thing we’ve got over the others history wise.
I want us to be high up the football pyramid and I want our rivals down in the lower leagues . I want to take the piss out of how shit they are football wise . I’m not too bothered what our fan base wear or look like , I think all people are cnuts until proven otherwise . I’m sick of shit football and would much prefer to be in the championship or prem than this shithouse league yes our fan base in general aren’t as odd as palace , make no mistake we have plenty of odd bods and our fan base hasn’t got a Cnut per fan ratio anywhere near the scum but we have our cnuts Anyone saying they wouldn’t swap footballing places with the scum or palace is a liar . yes I’m jealous of their current footballing positions if I’m allowed to think that whilst at the same time laughing at some of their geek fans
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
I want us to be high up the football pyramid and I want our rivals down in the lower leagues . I want to take the piss out of how shit they are football wise . I’m not too bothered what our fan base wear or look like , I think all people are cnuts until proven otherwise .nauseate I’m sick of shit football and would much prefer to be in the championship or prem than this shithouse league yes our fan base in general aren’t as odd as palace , make no mistake we have plenty of odd bods and our fan base hasn’t got a Cnut per fan ratio anywhere near the scum but we have our cnuts Anyone saying they wouldn’t swap footballing places with the scum or palace is a liar . yes I’m jealous of their current footballing positions if I’m allowed to think that whilst at the same time laughing at some of their geek fans
Which of these quotes from that Times article is the most absurd?
1. Inflated balloons can block aisles and escape routes, when deflated they can create a slip hazard, and the loud noise when they burst can create panic, which is dangerous in large crowds.
2. Liberal Democrat councillor, brought 32,000 balloons with him to give out to fans outside Wembley,
3. Wilsher lives in Wotton-under-Edge in Gloucestershire (is this where you can actually see Eagles?)
4. his six-year-old son, Rupert.
5 .Wilsher thinks the display could have changed Palace’s fortunes on the pitch against Chelsea.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
Each to their own I guess, but I get the same enjoyment out of Charlton on average as I did when we were in the Premier League and when that felt like ‘the norm’
Have Palace had that jackpot Wembley moment like we had since they got to the Premier League?
The malaise I feel for their situation is probably more aimed at the nature of Premier League football. Yes, you get to see the big teams and there’s major revenue for the club - but in terms of what makes being a fan - it just doesn’t do much for me to support a club that is purely looked at as making up the numbers.
Then again, I’m sure if we were in the Premier League again I might feel differently about it. But for now, I don’t look at them with envy.
There’s a reason why they need to try so hard to force an artificial identity about them….
They might not have had a last gasp winner at Wembley but they have reach an FA cup final, a semi final, won at the Etihad, drew 3-3 with Liverpool after being 3-0 down, regular wins over their biggest rival.
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
They’ve definitely had their high spots. But we had most of the same - beating Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc in regular league games. In fact most clubs in the top divisions have enjoyed that in their lifetime.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
What’s our defining moment, the league one play off final? They beat their biggest rivals in the play off semis and got promoted at Wembley.
Imagine beating Millwall over two legs to get to Wembley, then winning there to get promoted to the prem. I’d take that any day over Bauer’s goal.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
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How so? Would bet I hate that club more than anyone on here, but to pretend you wouldn't swap league places with them is ridiculous
Hang on, Liverpool and Chelsea are nailed on for the champions league. If Arsenal finish 5th can someone please ensure me that the FA Cup winner's place will then go to the next place in the league and not the unthinkable?
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
so Millwall remain the only South London club to compete in Europe
Did you buy a millwall replica kit with the premier league logo on the sleeves......oh!!!
seriously, as long as palace never qualify, I can live with that stat
Which of these quotes from that Times article is the most absurd?
1. Inflated balloons can block aisles and escape routes, when deflated they can create a slip hazard, and the loud noise when they burst can create panic, which is dangerous in large crowds.
2. Liberal Democrat councillor, brought 32,000 balloons with him to give out to fans outside Wembley,
3. Wilsher lives in Wotton-under-Edge in Gloucestershire (is this where you can actually see Eagles?)
4. his six-year-old son, Rupert.
5 .Wilsher thinks the display could have changed Palace’s fortunes on the pitch against Chelsea.
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Palace fans had 29,000 Balloons confiscated before Wembley. I just don't understand them at all, go to the pub before the game like everyone else and soak up the atmosphere. What's wrong with them?
they are a special breed
I don't envy them as I think they're an absolute embarrassment, but swap the scenarios round and it would have absolutely been more enjoyable to follow us recently than it has been.
Ultimately they’ve not had that defining moment that they can hang their hat on for years to come. A cup win, a trip into Europe. Until they get that, then for me they are just nothing more than a well run club that is on television more and with more money in the bank. And those aren’t things that get me excited as a football fan, personally.
And I certainly wouldn’t trade places if it meant having to adopt the strange practices and insecurities of their fanbase.
Edit: NO!
https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained
a) If the FA Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League, their UEL group stage place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
b) If the EFL Cup winners finish in the top five of the Premier League (or top six if (a) happens), their UECL playoff place will go to the next-highest ranked team not qualified for UEFA competitions in the Premier League.
Their supporters are freaks, and that keeps the jealousy at bay, but I can count on one hand the number of enjoyable moments we’ve had this season.
For me, what defines a football club are its supporters and the light they put the club in. And in our darkest times over the last ten years, our fans have shown that what we can do off the pitch is just as important as what happens on it.
And that makes me prouder than the odd upset win against a top 6 club and continual 13th placed finishes.
In 20-30 years time, who is going to care about Palace’s mid table Premier League finishes?
Their biggest game of the season and it wasn't even Chelsea's biggest game in that week.
So when you think about man utd , arsenal, chelsea, spurs , barca , real madrid you think of their fan base before the top players each have had?
Every club probably has a few weirdos supporting them
You would rather finish mid table league 1 than prem and an fa cup semi final?
I was 😳😱🤣🤣
I want to take the piss out of how shit they are football wise .
I’m not too bothered what our fan base wear or look like , I think all people are cnuts until proven otherwise .
I’m sick of shit football and would much prefer to be in the championship or prem than this shithouse league
yes our fan base in general aren’t as odd as palace , make no mistake we have plenty of odd bods and our fan base hasn’t got a Cnut per fan ratio anywhere near the scum but we have our cnuts
Anyone saying they wouldn’t swap footballing places with the scum or palace is a liar .
yes I’m jealous of their current footballing positions if I’m allowed to think that whilst at the same time laughing at some of their geek fans
1. Inflated balloons can block aisles and escape routes, when deflated they can create a slip hazard, and the loud noise when they burst can create panic, which is dangerous in large crowds.
seriously, as long as palace never qualify, I can live with that stat