Yeh. come back Jimenez and Slater, and take up where you left off. Those were the good old days. Blinding squad we'd have now.
Grow up mate
I will be fully mature when I agree with you, you mean? OK.
I just think you have a pretty short memory.
Don't need to agree with me at all..
What you just said then was childish, never said it was better the previous owners at all...?
Also pretty sure I thanked Roland for what he has done to improve the club in certain areas and yes again I'm pretty sure I was stating how much I backed him ...
Because things was bad before doesn't mesn I can not have a opinion one hoe I feel it can be better now.
You sitting there typing comments like that with a childish attitude is embarrassing for I'm assuming is a fully grown adult. I respect everyones opinions .. Exactly the same with yours and accept that not every lifer or Cafc fan will agree...that's the beauty of opinions in football but your last two comment towards me have been childish... Hence the "grow up mate" - which I stick by.
I agree with you CBB it is hard sometimes to back him, but back him I do. The only wrong decision he's made IMO is not employing Riga and to an extent the sale of yann.
I also agree with Callum. Stories of dressing room unrest, players out of position and no urgency. It was time to go.
Yesterday we finished with A 17 year old CB playing RB (Gomez) A RB playing CM (solly) A CB up front (bikey) A striker on the wing (Igor) A left winger on the right wing (johann)
A new manager to come in and Roland simply MUST back him and bring in some new players - players from outside the network, players who the manager wants. Will it happen probably not. Will I back Roland still? Yes. Because without him I personally believe we could potentially not have a club.
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
We're midtab....last season amost relega..
Playoffs?....
Ah I can't be bothered to argue
Season hasn't finished yet mate. If we're mid table why the hell sack the manager?
Because the season hasn't finished yet and we are currently only heading one way.
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
But surely, that is why Powell was sacked? He stood his ground against the Chairman.
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
But surely, that is why Powell was sacked? He stood his ground against the Chairman.
The chairman did not appoint him. Our new manager needs to pick and choose his back room staff and players Powell could not stand his ground because the results were so poor when RD took over he was already a dead man walking
All the pelters I took when I instantly took a disliking to RD based on his history and experiment plans.... it couldn't have been more obvious. The man is a cancer to our a club, we're losing thousands of fans' interests and THAT is what kills a club.
It's not just our football club that this is happening too. Ask fans up and down the country and they will tell you the same thing; we as fans are becoming so disconnected from OUR football clubs. The way they are now run means that fans are now seen as customers rather than members of the club. Things such as sticker albums and twitter accounts are capable of covering that up only for a brief period which is why more and more gimmicks take place with each passing month. Whilst I could NEVER leave this club I must admit I envy the supporters of teams like Dulwich Hamlet and do wish there was something we could do to get fans at the heart of the club again. Any intelligent folk got any ideas?
Pleased when Powell went. Sad to see Riga go Happy with the sacking of Peeters. All based on results and performances. We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton. If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
But surely, that is why Powell was sacked? He stood his ground against the Chairman.
And the results... were crap. His principles were not working, basically. Regardless of what he had done before, he made a stand against a chairman with a mutual dislike but made it from a very weak position.
Yeh. come back Jimenez and Slater, and take up where you left off. Those were the good old days. Blinding squad we'd have now.
That is a false argument.
It is also the same argument that was used on here to defend the two schisters when they were in charge.
RD is better than TJ/MS but he's still open to criticism.
I'm not anti RD but I never had an expectation that it would be a smooth or conventional reign under him. I think I may even have said so once or twice.
But people get pissed off and worried when they can't see progress on the pitch and no one is telling us what is happening.
At the same time they see what appears like chaos in the way coaches are hired and fired.
He's better that the last lot is true but it's not enough.
Roland has brought financial stability to the club, which was more than just necessary, it was the saving of our club. On the pitch it's poor with a team that can only just about compete at this level but look like staying at this level for another year. As a whole it seems a bit deflating. We all hoped for a billionaire that had the passion like Roman to throw money at us, in a way we've never known before, but that was not to be. Roland needs thanking for bringing us this far, but will he take us any further? I have a gut feeling that within 12 months we'll have been sold at a price that enables Roland to break even.
Charlton are a club that should be respected to stand alone and not be part or anyone's network, that involves being given cast-offs that we are obliged to accept. We don't own the club, Roland does. Let's hope that he wants success to mean more than providing him with a turnover, no matter what the consequences for the club are.
Lots of knee jerk reactionary words & declarations of the final nail in the Charlton coffin from some Lifers on here tonight.
Don't want to say too much as I'm feeling a bit Mary Poppins myself & am concerned about what the immediate future will bring for us.
But I sincerely hope that, in the cold light of day, most Lifers will moderate their first thoughts on hearing tonight's news.
I dislike change. But this surely isn't change for change's sake.
There were no guarantees that Bob would guide us to safety by May ...and likewise, there is no guarantee that the next man will be our Messiah. He could be just a naughty boy..:-) but he could be someone that the current honest lads in the squad will be able to relate to and play for. It's a gamble but probably a necessary one if the rumours we heard are true. If I can look into JJ's face tomorrow and see relief , then that's good enough for me.
Whatever your feelings at this moment in time, please sleep on it. Wait & see who is announced as our new gaffer , hopefully tomorrow. Wait to see how the players respond next Saturday and beyond. That will tell its own story IMO. But, don't expect miracles or overnight success...this is Charlton after all.
Above all, whatever the future holds, we mustn't lose sight of the fact that this is OUR Club - no-one will take that away from us. It's OUR voices that are heard by the players week after week and it's us, keeping our feet firmly on the ground that are the one stable factor. Players, managers, owners, tea ladies come & go but we stay. Without us there will be no Charlton Athletic.
So, gird those loins, man/woman up and endeavour to view this current change as a reason to be optimistic and look to the future NOT the past. The latter we cannot change ; the former we have the opportunity to influence. We've been knocked down before but we've fought to scramble back to our feet. Together we are strong. The alternative is not worth thinking about.
There is going to be a big drop in attendances (actual, not the announced) in the following home games, people are dropping like flies and I'm talking quite a few 10/20+ year ST holders amongst them.. I'll be having a year off the ST next season myself too, for someone that was to improve our match day experience - it couldn't be less entertaining or value for money. Won't be lining someones pockets who doesn't have our clubs best interests at heart.
Why don't people understand that ANY new owner would've had the pitch relaid and been forced to invest in new players. Not sure RD deserves praise for that. This next appointment will make or break us and probably make or break quite a lot of fans' support for the club, if only for a short period of time.
I agree with you CBB it is hard sometimes to back him, but back him I do. The only wrong decision he's made IMO is not employing Riga and to an extent the sale of yann.
I also agree with Callum. Stories of dressing room unrest, players out of position and no urgency. It was time to go.
Yesterday we finished with A 17 year old CB playing RB (Gomez) A RB playing CM (solly) A CB up front (bikey) A striker on the wing (Igor) A left winger on the right wing (johann)
A new manager to come in and Roland simply MUST back him and bring in some new players - players from outside the network, players who the manager wants. Will it happen probably not. Will I back Roland still? Yes. Because without him I personally believe we could potentially not have a club.
Agreed though I actually like JBG on the right hand side cutting in on his left with Solly able to overlap on the outside to cross with his right
I'm not sure I understand all of this. When Powell left, maybe, but Riga was here for a few months and was never brought in for the long term.
Bob was brought in for the long term, apparently, but it has clearly not worked. The mistake was, perhaps, bringing him in. If he is failing to get the best out of the players because the players will not play for him then keeping him on is an even bigger mistake.
Our relegation from the premier league and then the second division was, in part, because we didn't sack the manager quick enough.
Sometimes a change is needed and I'd rather have a Chairman that is willing to make unpopular decisions than one that waits too long.
However, I find it difficult to understand how, after everything that has happened in the last 20 years someone can decide to walk away because we sack a manager that has been here for 8 months and is on a run of eight games where only four points have been won.
Just my view, but if the sacking of Powell wasn't going to cause someone to walk away why would the sacking of Bob?
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What you just said then was childish, never said it was better the previous owners at all...?
Also pretty sure I thanked Roland for what he has done to improve the club in certain areas and yes again I'm pretty sure I was stating how much I backed him ...
Because things was bad before doesn't mesn I can not have a opinion one hoe I feel it can be better now.
You sitting there typing comments like that with a childish attitude is embarrassing for I'm assuming is a fully grown adult. I respect everyones opinions .. Exactly the same with yours and accept that not every lifer or Cafc fan will agree...that's the beauty of opinions in football but your last two comment towards me have been childish... Hence the "grow up mate" - which I stick by.
I also agree with Callum. Stories of dressing room unrest, players out of position and no urgency. It was time to go.
Yesterday we finished with
A 17 year old CB playing RB (Gomez)
A RB playing CM (solly)
A CB up front (bikey)
A striker on the wing (Igor)
A left winger on the right wing (johann)
A new manager to come in and Roland simply MUST back him and bring in some new players - players from outside the network, players who the manager wants. Will it happen probably not. Will I back Roland still? Yes. Because without him I personally believe we could potentially not have a club.
Sad to see Riga go
Happy with the sacking of Peeters.
All based on results and performances.
We need an old school manager who will stand his ground against the chairman and get the right players for the championship and Charlton.
If we get it right now we can still make the playoffs
Playoffs?....
Ah I can't be bothered to argue
Because the season hasn't finished yet and we are currently only heading one way.
We'll probably get someone with a hippy hair cut next.
"He's lots of hair, but we don't care!"
Powell could not stand his ground because the results were so poor when RD took over he was already a dead man walking
When Pearce & Holloway go, that will be 15.
It is also the same argument that was used on here to defend the two schisters when they were in charge.
RD is better than TJ/MS but he's still open to criticism.
I'm not anti RD but I never had an expectation that it would be a smooth or conventional reign under him. I think I may even have said so once or twice.
But people get pissed off and worried when they can't see progress on the pitch and no one is telling us what is happening.
At the same time they see what appears like chaos in the way coaches are hired and fired.
He's better that the last lot is true but it's not enough.
Charlton are a club that should be respected to stand alone and not be part or anyone's network, that involves being given cast-offs that we are obliged to accept. We don't own the club, Roland does. Let's hope that he wants success to mean more than providing him with a turnover, no matter what the consequences for the club are.
We may all want our Charlton back, but which one?
Bob was brought in for the long term, apparently, but it has clearly not worked. The mistake was, perhaps, bringing him in. If he is failing to get the best out of the players because the players will not play for him then keeping him on is an even bigger mistake.
Our relegation from the premier league and then the second division was, in part, because we didn't sack the manager quick enough.
Sometimes a change is needed and I'd rather have a Chairman that is willing to make unpopular decisions than one that waits too long.
However, I find it difficult to understand how, after everything that has happened in the last 20 years someone can decide to walk away because we sack a manager that has been here for 8 months and is on a run of eight games where only four points have been won.
Just my view, but if the sacking of Powell wasn't going to cause someone to walk away why would the sacking of Bob?