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  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Israel pull one back...
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Callumcafc said:

    Israel pull one back...

    That’s just how we roll, I expect us to concede another in injury time
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    thank fuck for that!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    They’ll be dancing in the streets of Glasgow tonight..........
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    Callumcafc said:

    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

    Does it mean that Scotland can only get either Finland, Norway or Serbia in the playoffs?
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    se9addick said:

    Callumcafc said:

    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

    Does it mean that Scotland can only get either Finland, Norway or Serbia in the playoffs?
    Yes, unless one of those three qualifies for the Euros in the meantime, in which case the second place team from their Nations League will take their place in the play offs.

    So if Scotland qualified through the conventional qualifying group then Israel would take their play off spot.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Just said on the radio that Scotland would play Finland in a play off semi and then the winner of Norway/Serbia on the final (subject to none of them qualifying beforehand).

    Think I read "How the Nations League works" about 15 times before the penny dropped.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    MrLargo said:

    Just said on the radio that Scotland would play Finland in a play off semi and then the winner of Norway/Serbia on the final (subject to none of them qualifying beforehand).

    Think I read "How the Nations League works" about 15 times before the penny dropped.

    I honestly still don’t think I get it!
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited November 2018
    MrLargo said:

    Just said on the radio that Scotland would play Finland in a play off semi and then the winner of Norway/Serbia on the final (subject to none of them qualifying beforehand).

    Think I read "How the Nations League works" about 15 times before the penny dropped.

    Each league has a play-off path: A, B, C or D.

    Scotland are guaranteed a place in Path C (alongside three other League C teams) if they fail to qualify from their regular qualifying group. England are similarly guaranteed a place in Path A if we balls up our qualifying group.

    The “paths” are set up so the best team plays the fourth best team and the second best team plays the third best team.

    I imagine that’s how they worked out Scotland v Finland on the radio, although it could all change if Scotland/Serbia/Norway/Finland were able to qualify via the normal route.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    There was a link that I put up some pages back that explained it all really well with pretty graphics. Maybe I’ll try to dig it up again.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Found it - with a helpful tip from @MrOneLung
    MrOneLung said:

    Callumcafc said:

    https://www.vg.no/spesial/2018/nations-league-forklart/

    These cool graphics help to visualise what is going on. Unfortunately the words are in Norwegian! We need an English version.

    If you use chrome as your browser it offers you a translate option and the English is fine.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    se9addick said:

    MrLargo said:

    Just said on the radio that Scotland would play Finland in a play off semi and then the winner of Norway/Serbia on the final (subject to none of them qualifying beforehand).

    Think I read "How the Nations League works" about 15 times before the penny dropped.

    I honestly still don’t think I get it!
    No shame in that mate!
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    Callumcafc said:

    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

    So in the next Nations league will our group be England, Spain and....Denmark?? Or do the groups get changed around depending on something unbeknown to me??
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    The Organiser said:

    Callumcafc said:

    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

    So in the next Nations league will our group be England, Spain and....Denmark?? Or do the groups get changed around depending on something unbeknown to me??
    There’ll be a draw
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,866
    The Organiser said:

    Callumcafc said:

    League A -
    Finalists: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Relegated: Germany, Iceland, Poland, Croatia

    League B -
    Promoted: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
    Relegated: Slovakia, Turkey, N.Ireland, Ireland

    League C -
    Promoted: Scotland, Finland, Norway, Serbia
    Relegated: Estonia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Cyprus

    League D -
    Promoted: Georgia, Belarus, Kosovo, Macedonia

    So in the next Nations league will our group be England, Spain and....Denmark?? Or do the groups get changed around depending on something unbeknown to me??
    I think the individual groups will be re-drawn with the seedings based on where the team finished so for example in the A League...


    Top Seeds: Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal, England
    Middle Seeds: France, Belgium, Spain, Italy
    Bottom Seeds: Ukraine, Sweden, Bosnia, Denmark
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    se9addick said:

    cafcdave123 said:

    se9addick said:

    Scotland’s second goal was lovely. Look terrible at the back though so wouldn’t count our Israel scoring again.

    Forrest has taken all his goals well (2 Saturday and 2 tonight). Cracking little player
    Can’t believe these have been his first goals at international level.
    24 caps without a goal and then 5 goals in 4 days.

    He seems to have improved over the past 18 months though, last year was his best by far for Celtic and he already has 9 goals this season. Think if he keeps it up all season he will have some bottom half premier league clubs sniffing around in the summer.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Kosovo have done a bloody brilliant job at getting promoted, seeing they were only allowed into FIFA a few years ago!!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Draw for Semi about to take place,

    Switzerland easiest for me
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Irishman Robbie Keane making the draw, The Netherlands it is for us then haha
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Portugal v Switzerland
    Netherlands v England
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited December 2018
    Oops UEFA website put out the wrong draw...
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    edited December 2018
    Callumcafc said:

    Portugal v Netherlands

    England v Switzerland

    This is wrong mate, for some reason the first two teams out were in different semi finals
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited December 2018
    Portugual v Switzerland
    Netherlands v England
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    stackitsteve said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Portugal v Netherlands

    England v Switzerland

    This is wrong mate, for some reason the first two teams out were in different semi finals
    It must have even confused the bloke doing the UEFA website because they put Portugal against Netherlands as well.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Only UEFA could make a semi final draw confusing
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    First time I've ever known a draw where team drawn 1st plays team drawn 3rd
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    stackitsteve said:

    First time I've ever known a draw where team drawn 1st plays team drawn 3rd

    Maybe they would have played the second team out as expected if it hadn’t been the Netherlands.... oooh conspiracy time.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Seems a but suspect to me,
    Its like they pulled Portugual out and then pulled out The Netherlands and suddenly said thats the 1st team of the 2nd semi.

    I mean in no other knockout draw do you pull out teams for different matches, it makes no sense

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