Having not seen it again yet I didn't think Georges misses was that bad. I thought that he should have scored but credited Feferici for the save. Might think differently once seen again.
Charlton are an average well organised side, well that what BBC Radio Berkshire said on my way home, well what does that make Reading.
I started the day with a networking meeting in the Reading Hilton and look who I bumped into. Then onto a Reading based Charlton fans home for beer and burgers and then onto the game.
Excellent performance and a deserved win. Other than the 2nd third of the first half, Charlton were the better team, even though we did not play at our best.
Fox looked a bit shaky first half but was coached along by TBH, Solly was excellent defensively and his cross for the goal sublime, although I do think there is some way before he is at his very best offensively.
Vetokele showed he is a class above anything else we have up front and took his goal well, hopefully his slight injury improves before Millwall, but he works hard for the team and he battled for the ball before passing to Solly who crossed for Igor to head in.
Overall a good team performance and excellent singing by the fans.
George's hold up play does need to improve but he's only 23 and in his first season in English football. Might be one of those players that just needs more time to adapt.
George's hold up play does need to improve but he's only 23 and in his first season in English football. Might be one of those players that just needs more time to adapt.
I agree with this. He's not been very effective for us but might be one day. I believe there is a decent player in there. Big jump in football standards and culture for George. He may yet come good.
George's hold up play does need to improve but he's only 23 and in his first season in English football. Might be one of those players that just needs more time to adapt.
I agree with this. He's not been very effective for us but might be one day. I believe there is a decent player in there. Big jump in football standards and culture for George. He may yet come good.
Would like to agree but after today am disinclined. 3 yards out, centre of goal just the keeper to beat, running onto the ball, the only thing to his credit being he made a good contact with it. Seems to be a striker without striker's instinct and we shouldn't be carrying that type of player up front. Not wishing to sound viewfinder-esque, but there has to be a limit.
Leeds commentators pointed out on Tuesday he had done generally nothing, after he failed to jump for a header. I hate to single a player out, and would gladly re-think on a second viewing of today's chances (it was 2 chances as it came back to him from the keeper), and if it's a mental thing or he is dealing with off the field issues i hope we have the people to help with that and again would gladly cut him some slack.
Back in the dry after a hair raising drive home in atrocious conditions....but that's enough about my barnet.
And was it worth it ? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Brilliant afternoon with another well deserved 3 points from this hard working, never say die group of players.
As always, The Beast Mark 2 & TBH did what they do best- defend, defend, defend & break the hearts of the opposition's marauding forwards....again. We didn't even have to resort to the expected cries of " Palace reject ! ". Was he even playing ???
I thought every player in a red/white shirt( and how good to see was that !) did us proud. Young Callum had a far better game than at Elland Rd so well done to Big Bob for persevering with him when there were other options available. It really is unfair to highlight anyone in particular - this was a real TEAM performance and the spirit engendered by SCP has well and truly been reignited by our new gaffer.
With so many new faces this season, I feared that I wouldn't "connect" with them as in previous years but oh me of little faith.....it's definitely starting to feel like "my" boys again. And there's still so much more to come from them I'm sure. Bring on the Spanners !!!!
So, once again, Fanny's presence = points. It started well when the car park steward forgot to collect our £8 ( Yes, 8 !!!) and we charitably decided to let The Royals have it anyway....via 2 glasses of rose pre match. Result !
great all round team performance & a little unlucky not to score a couple more - thought George could have taken a touch first, but then JJ did that a few minutes beforehand & his shot was blocked. Didn't really see Igor's goal as it was down the other end & my eyes are currently a bit suspect, but just seen it on Sky & it was a brilliant finish. Just hope he is fit in 2 weeks time.....
back 4 immense again and some great passing moves from the midfield. I don't think we are a top six side but if we can stay there or thereabouts come Jan then p'raps RD will get us the striker we need.
looking at the table & comparing it to last year shows this season is a lot tighter with no stand out teams. At this stage last season Leicester were clear with 37 points.........but had lost 5 games, which just shows its the number of games you win, not how many you don't lose. Also, after xmas, there always seem to be a team that goes on a winning run (we did it in 2000) and one that goes on a losing one (blackpool last season). This season I think Fulham have started early I reckon by xmas will be up with us in the top 10 - just wonder who will drop like a stone once the decorations come down ???
Could only follow the match thread but today is a great result. 2 weeks now for Igor to rest up as he needs it without international football. We are a tough side to play against and beat, bring on Millwall
A really good result that with the 2 week break coming up. We can regroup, give some players a bit of a rest and get Coq up to speed. I think he's going to be a big asset for us.
Hopefully we can be still up there and challenging come the January transfer window so RD will get his wallet out.
George's miss means it's all the more important we sign a quality striker in January. We are borderline mid-table or sixth place just like several other sides and millions under FFP (rip) limits. Blackburn and Forest will not be allowed to sign players so we can edge it and get on a run. This division isn't easy but this squad is the best since we left the Premier League - two more quality signings and there's nothing to fear.
To be fair to George, I thought gudmundson could have played him in a bit earlier which would have meant he wasn't so rushed,a greatvdaybout hairy drive home,but fans were immense today as were the back 5.
Hitting the ball straight at the keeper from 5 yards with no defenders in front of you is nothing about a 'change of culture', he is just awful.
Well you know best.
Tell me exactly what he brings to the team?
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
Just shows stats mean jack sh#t We only had 39 of the possession They had 12 corners to our none Just gotto believe we can beat anyone when Igor the beast plays Get in 3 lovely points Millwall we are ready for you
George's hold up play does need to improve but he's only 23 and in his first season in English football. Might be one of those players that just needs more time to adapt.
I agree with this. He's not been very effective for us but might be one day. I believe there is a decent player in there. Big jump in football standards and culture for George. He may yet come good.
George always seems more effective when he's able to move onto and run with the ball, rather than static as the ball comes to him.
Hitting the ball straight at the keeper from 5 yards with no defenders in front of you is nothing about a 'change of culture', he is just awful.
Well you know best.
Tell me exactly what he brings to the team?
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
I agree he has looked lost and hasn't done as well as we might have hoped. But the key word there is hoped. Not expected. As said above he's 23 playing at the highest standard of his life, adapting to a new country, club and style of football.
I think he has a decent touch and has potential. That's all. He might not make it with us but I'm not writing him off yet. You obviously have.
Hitting the ball straight at the keeper from 5 yards with no defenders in front of you is nothing about a 'change of culture', he is just awful.
Well you know best.
Tell me exactly what he brings to the team?
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
I agree he has looked lost and hasn't done as well as we might have hoped. But the key word there is hoped. Not expected. As said above he's 23 playing at the highest standard of his life, adapting to a new country, club and style of football.
I think he has a decent touch and has potential. That's all. He might not make it with us but I'm not writing him off yet. You obviously have.
So there isn't anything you can answer my question with about what he actually does that a striker should do?
Great "jingle bells" day form the Irish pub in the town to the performance and the result.
Did a job on RFC who huffed and puffed but could not get passed Solly or Fox(seemed like the player of last year). AB and TBH solid, Henderson sound on crosses and made the one big save.
JJ worked hard as ever.
Harriot played a different game today. Retain the ball well and not wasteful but couldnt work a clear opening. As soon as he went off Reading stepped up 10 yards as we had no pace.
Very impressed with Coquelin and BP will have a decision to make soon.
Igor didnt get many chances but worked hard and took his one opening clinically.
Just shows stats mean jack sh#t We only had 39 of the possession They had 12 corners to our none Just gotto believe we can beat anyone when Igor the beast plays Get in 3 lovely points Millwall we are ready for you
No corners all game. Bloody hell that's relegation form. We need to keep hold of George and Callum for when we're back in League 1.
Hitting the ball straight at the keeper from 5 yards with no defenders in front of you is nothing about a 'change of culture', he is just awful.
Well you know best.
Tell me exactly what he brings to the team?
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
I agree he has looked lost and hasn't done as well as we might have hoped. But the key word there is hoped. Not expected. As said above he's 23 playing at the highest standard of his life, adapting to a new country, club and style of football.
I think he has a decent touch and has potential. That's all. He might not make it with us but I'm not writing him off yet. You obviously have.
I agree, there have been moments of real quality, for example the goal against Derby, and he's made some good passes and some decent chances for others. At the moment though they are shiny diamonds of quality embedded in a stinking pile of manure. Now whether Bob can mine this manure to get at the diamonds or he'll just stink the place out remains to be seen, but I still think he CAN come good, though I don't know that he will.
Also, that was a awful comparison, I don't know what the hell I was on about. Oh well.
From their forum - someone called Bikey overweight. Madness. Someone else then added
I would welcome Andre Bikey back in a heartbeat. He's not your play-it-sideways-like-a-crab defender that Adkins seems to love. Instead he is a total rock in defence. He organized the Charlton back line, and time after time he made crucial interceptions and clearances. Compare and contrast with our leaky back 4. With head or foot he excelled.
'Most tactically clueless performance I've seen in years' one of their lot writes. Bearing in mind the shjt seen at the Valley last season and the one before, they've been lucky.
Hitting the ball straight at the keeper from 5 yards with no defenders in front of you is nothing about a 'change of culture', he is just awful.
Well you know best.
Tell me exactly what he brings to the team?
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
I agree he has looked lost and hasn't done as well as we might have hoped. But the key word there is hoped. Not expected. As said above he's 23 playing at the highest standard of his life, adapting to a new country, club and style of football.
I think he has a decent touch and has potential. That's all. He might not make it with us but I'm not writing him off yet. You obviously have.
So there isn't anything you can answer my question with about what he actually does that a striker should do?
He won us two very difficult games. I'm willing to cut him slack based on that
George, ahhh George. Yeah he didn't score, but I've seen worse misses. I reckon the trouble with George is he learned most of his goalscoring football moves by studying the pictures in cartoon magazines like Roy of the Rovers to see how it's done. I mean he tries at least one overhead in every match, and if he can't imagine his goal attempt with a 'whoosh' and a tail/trail behind it, with a despairing keeper clawing the air as the net bulges and muscular team mates grinning, then he isn't interested. Not for George the miserable tap in, or the deflection, they didn't draw goals like that in his childhood comics. No! A George goal is like the two he has served up so far this season, sumptuous and saved for special occasions...just like in the stories. No point in having Christmas dinner every day.
Brilliant performance at the back. Solly was my man of the match, he defended superbly throughout and put in a peach of a cross for the goal. Bikey ran him a close second though - he was as solid as a rock. Very impressed with Henderson, anything that went near him was plucked straight out of the air and when they had a shot near the end I can't remember a keeper spreading himself so wide - there were arms and legs everywhere. I was a little concerned in the middle at times; we gave the ball away carelessly and were caught ball watching on a few occasions. I guess that's why Coquelin was brought on. Early on I was thinking it was probably the best game I've seen from Harriott for quite a while, he looked a bit livelier and keener than of recent, trouble is though that by the end of the game I was still left wondering where the final ball was. Too many times he ended up giving the ball away or running into trouble rather than making the killer pass or the testing shot.
As for Reading, they looked a bit clueless today. I hate to piss on people's bonfires, because I think everyone's in a good mood about today's game, but I think they made it a bit easy for us. Given their ineptitude, I'd have like to have seen a bit more action up front from us.
As others have said, the crowd were great in the 2nd half.
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I started the day with a networking meeting in the Reading Hilton and look who I bumped into. Then onto a Reading based Charlton fans home for beer and burgers and then onto the game.
Excellent performance and a deserved win. Other than the 2nd third of the first half, Charlton were the better team, even though we did not play at our best.
Fox looked a bit shaky first half but was coached along by TBH, Solly was excellent defensively and his cross for the goal sublime, although I do think there is some way before he is at his very best offensively.
Vetokele showed he is a class above anything else we have up front and took his goal well, hopefully his slight injury improves before Millwall, but he works hard for the team and he battled for the ball before passing to Solly who crossed for Igor to head in.
Overall a good team performance and excellent singing by the fans.
Leeds commentators pointed out on Tuesday he had done generally nothing, after he failed to jump for a header. I hate to single a player out, and would gladly re-think on a second viewing of today's chances (it was 2 chances as it came back to him from the keeper), and if it's a mental thing or he is dealing with off the field issues i hope we have the people to help with that and again would gladly cut him some slack.
And was it worth it ? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Brilliant afternoon with another well deserved 3 points from this hard working, never say die group of players.
As always, The Beast Mark 2 & TBH did what they do best- defend, defend, defend & break the hearts of the opposition's marauding forwards....again. We didn't even have to resort to the expected cries of " Palace reject ! ". Was he even playing ???
I thought every player in a red/white shirt( and how good to see was that !) did us proud. Young Callum had a far better game than at Elland Rd so well done to Big Bob for persevering with him when there were other options available. It really is unfair to highlight anyone in particular - this was a real TEAM performance and the spirit engendered by SCP has well and truly been reignited by our new gaffer.
With so many new faces this season, I feared that I wouldn't "connect" with them as in previous years but oh me of little faith.....it's definitely starting to feel like "my" boys again. And there's still so much more to come from them I'm sure. Bring on the Spanners !!!!
So, once again, Fanny's presence = points. It started well when the car park steward forgot to collect our £8 ( Yes, 8 !!!) and we charitably decided to let The Royals have it anyway....via 2 glasses of rose pre match. Result !
great all round team performance & a little unlucky not to score a couple more - thought George could have taken a touch first, but then JJ did that a few minutes beforehand & his shot was blocked. Didn't really see Igor's goal as it was down the other end & my eyes are currently a bit suspect, but just seen it on Sky & it was a brilliant finish. Just hope he is fit in 2 weeks time.....
back 4 immense again and some great passing moves from the midfield. I don't think we are a top six side but if we can stay there or thereabouts come Jan then p'raps RD will get us the striker we need.
looking at the table & comparing it to last year shows this season is a lot tighter with no stand out teams. At this stage last season Leicester were clear with 37 points.........but had lost 5 games, which just shows its the number of games you win, not how many you don't lose. Also, after xmas, there always seem to be a team that goes on a winning run (we did it in 2000) and one that goes on a losing one (blackpool last season). This season I think Fulham have started early I reckon by xmas will be up with us in the top 10 - just wonder who will drop like a stone once the decorations come down ???
Hopefully we can be still up there and challenging come the January transfer window so RD will get his wallet out.
Very happy in Walnut Creek, California today. :-)
COYR!!!
And don't cite things that you think 'might be in there somewhere', because that can be said about absolutely anyone registered to a football club. What does he actually do that a typical striker should?
We only had 39 of the possession
They had 12 corners to our none
Just gotto believe we can beat anyone when Igor the beast plays
Get in 3 lovely points
Millwall we are ready for you
I think he has a decent touch and has potential. That's all. He might not make it with us but I'm not writing him off yet. You obviously have.
Great "jingle bells" day form the Irish pub in the town to the performance and the result.
Did a job on RFC who huffed and puffed but could not get passed Solly or Fox(seemed like the player of last year). AB and TBH solid, Henderson sound on crosses and made the one big save.
JJ worked hard as ever.
Harriot played a different game today. Retain the ball well and not wasteful but couldnt work a clear opening. As soon as he went off Reading stepped up 10 yards as we had no pace.
Very impressed with Coquelin and BP will have a decision to make soon.
Igor didnt get many chances but worked hard and took his one opening clinically.
The full kit wanker was funny.
Great support too.
Jingle bells
We need to keep hold of George and Callum for when we're back in League 1.
Also, that was a awful comparison, I don't know what the hell I was on about. Oh well.
Yeah he didn't score, but I've seen worse misses.
I reckon the trouble with George is he learned most of his goalscoring football moves by studying the pictures in cartoon magazines like Roy of the Rovers to see how it's done. I mean he tries at least one overhead in every match, and if he can't imagine his goal attempt with a 'whoosh' and a tail/trail behind it, with a despairing keeper clawing the air as the net bulges and muscular team mates grinning, then he isn't interested. Not for George the miserable tap in, or the deflection, they didn't draw goals like that in his childhood comics.
No! A George goal is like the two he has served up so far this season, sumptuous and saved for special occasions...just like in the stories.
No point in having Christmas dinner every day.
As for Reading, they looked a bit clueless today. I hate to piss on people's bonfires, because I think everyone's in a good mood about today's game, but I think they made it a bit easy for us. Given their ineptitude, I'd have like to have seen a bit more action up front from us.
As others have said, the crowd were great in the 2nd half.