What do UKIP say about the possibility of 2 million British people living in Europe all deciding to return at more or less the same time (which might be an unintended consequence of leaving the EU)?
If the returning two million are balanced out by removing two million what do UKIP say about the redundancy payments to all the non Brits kicked out of their jobs, and what do UKIP say about filling those jobs?
What are 'British Values' (which UKIP say will be taught in schools), and how do they differ from civilized values?
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
The world has changed but the media do play this racist game easily. I remember Alan Hanson onced described a black player as 'coloured' and their was all this media hype saying Alan Hanson was being offsensive which was ridiculous.
All the blacks I have know think all this media hype is all over the top which it is.
As for what the UKIP guy said, maybe you should watch some of the old comedy programes and you will find offsensive remarks being said and their was no protest or media hype over that. We will soon breathe and someone will spout out 'racist' to us.
From what I can work out successive governments have stepped in to save the banks. Most bankers are solid lefties though, they wouldn't know any Conservatives I suppose, unlike those pesky reactionary right wing disabled folk with a spare room.
Nope. Only two banks have been saved in recent decades, both by the last government. And it was the right thing to do. Look what happened when Bush refused to step in to save Lehmann's.
With you on the horrible bedroom tax. Not sure why it's relevant though.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to think
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.
Hopefully Labour now will be different. Cameron etc worst there has ever been for our state wealth we share in and our liberties eg legal aid. Nice chat though. Have a good evening.
Labour will never be different, they still say we should borrow more when borrowing has increased under both Labour's goverment and the coalition.
As for TTIP, I am a member of Unite and I find it ridiculously bad Labour support TTIP when Unite have been campaigning against it but they are the biggest funders of the Labour party.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year. Loony probably not right word. They lack some basic human instincts like compassion and empathy. Not their fault just the way they are.
I am offended on behalf of myself and my own. It's personal.
Oh OK Mr Fry, you have written insults out of existence then. You won't be offended when I tell you what you say (despite you erudite posing) is the outpouring of a dimwit.
What do UKIP say about the possibility of 2 million British people living in Europe all deciding to return at more or less the same time (which might be an unintended consequence of leaving the EU)?
If the returning two million are balanced out by removing two million what do UKIP say about the redundancy payments to all the non Brits kicked out of their jobs, and what do UKIP say about filling those jobs?
What are 'British Values' (which UKIP say will be taught in schools), and how do they differ from civilized values?
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
The world has changed but the media do play this racist game easily. I remember Alan Hanson onced described a black player as 'coloured' and their was all this media hype saying Alan Hanson was being offsensive which was ridiculous.
All the blacks I have know think all this media hype is all over the top which it is.
As for what the UKIP guy said, maybe you should watch some of the old comedy programes and you will find offsensive remarks being said and their was no protest or media hype over that. We will soon breathe and someone will spout out 'racist' to us.
There is a difference between hearing words that are "offensive" in present day in a comedy programme from 30 years ago,to hearing offensive language/descriptions/insults from someone that is representing a party that want to run the country. I don't know how it can even be used as a comparison, times have moved and we have come along way not just in society but in humanity, unfortunately some UKIP along with BNP and other far right groups show us we've still got a long way to go.
Leaders should set and lead by example, condoning or defending racist language is not a good start.
What do UKIP say about the possibility of 2 million British people living in Europe all deciding to return at more or less the same time (which might be an unintended consequence of leaving the EU)?
If the returning two million are balanced out by removing two million what do UKIP say about the redundancy payments to all the non Brits kicked out of their jobs, and what do UKIP say about filling those jobs?
What are 'British Values' (which UKIP say will be taught in schools), and how do they differ from civilized values?
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
The world has changed but the media do play this racist game easily. I remember Alan Hanson onced described a black player as 'coloured' and their was all this media hype saying Alan Hanson was being offsensive which was ridiculous.
All the blacks I have know think all this media hype is all over the top which it is.
As for what the UKIP guy said, maybe you should watch some of the old comedy programes and you will find offsensive remarks being said and their was no protest or media hype over that. We will soon breathe and someone will spout out 'racist' to us.
There is a difference between hearing words that are "offensive" in present day in a comedy programme from 30 years ago,to hearing offensive language/descriptions/insults from someone that is representing a party that want to run the country. I don't know how it can even be used as a comparison, times have moved and we have come along way not just in society but in humanity, unfortunately some UKIP along with BNP and other far right groups show us we've still got a long way to go.
Leaders should set and lead by example, condoning or defending racist language is not a good start.
What do UKIP say about the possibility of 2 million British people living in Europe all deciding to return at more or less the same time (which might be an unintended consequence of leaving the EU)?
If the returning two million are balanced out by removing two million what do UKIP say about the redundancy payments to all the non Brits kicked out of their jobs, and what do UKIP say about filling those jobs?
What are 'British Values' (which UKIP say will be taught in schools), and how do they differ from civilized values?
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
The world has changed but the media do play this racist game easily. I remember Alan Hanson onced described a black player as 'coloured' and their was all this media hype saying Alan Hanson was being offsensive which was ridiculous.
All the blacks I have know think all this media hype is all over the top which it is.
As for what the UKIP guy said, maybe you should watch some of the old comedy programes and you will find offsensive remarks being said and their was no protest or media hype over that. We will soon breathe and someone will spout out 'racist' to us.
There is a difference between hearing words that are "offensive" in present day in a comedy programme from 30 years ago,to hearing offensive language/descriptions/insults from someone that is representing a party that want to run the country. I don't know how it can even be used as a comparison, times have moved and we have come along way not just in society but in humanity, unfortunately some UKIP along with BNP and other far right groups show us we've still got a long way to go.
Leaders should set and lead by example, condoning or defending racist language is not a good start.
Sadie, these comedy programmes are being on show today.
Before you target UKIP, you should listen to what members from Labour and the Tories say as well. Some examples below, I bet you have not heard any of those:
So, before you say UKIP are racist then perhaps you should say this about the other parties?
I don't think UKIP are racist but like the other 3 parties they do have 'idiots' but they have got rid of them. UKIP are only branded as racist by the far left groups and the media is because they are ahead on the immigration debate. I bet you, if a UKIP twitter posted the same context as the first article, they will be on the news, easily!
I would also like to add in general and not aimed at anyone in particular.
All the people that go well OTT jumping on the slighest utterance, that they construe could be racist, do absolutely no good for the fight against racism.
All it does is pee off the vast majority, that are doing their level best to do and say the right things, without someone being offended on behalf of someone else.
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
'Ukip supports a five-year ban on unskilled migrants coming to Britain and allowing highly-skilled people to enter only if they have enough “points” under an Australian-style border control system.'
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
'Ukip supports a five-year ban on unskilled migrants coming to Britain and allowing highly-skilled people to enter only if they have enough “points” under an Australian-style border control system.'
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
"The What We Stand For section of Ukip’s website says: “Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependants for five years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), education and housing – they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.”"
So if the skilled workers aren't already millionaires, their kids will suffer because they're foreign and will be refused entry into any state schools for 5 years.
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
'Ukip supports a five-year ban on unskilled migrants coming to Britain and allowing highly-skilled people to enter only if they have enough “points” under an Australian-style border control system.'
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
"The What We Stand For section of Ukip’s website says: “Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependants for five years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), education and housing – they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.”"
So if the skilled workers aren't already millionaires, their kids will suffer because they're foreign and will be refused entry into any state schools for 5 years.
Well you tell me why any hard-working Brit should have to pay for a Romanian child to go to our schools and use our hospitals without resorting to a load of socialist happy clappy rubbish
Found this. You can send your child to school in Romania free of charge.
'Public education in Romania is free for residents. There aren’t many first-class schools, so those that do have a good reputation often have long waiting lists. As a result, overcrowding at these schools is common and results in classes being spilt into morning and afternoon shifts to accommodate more students.
Students in Romania are graded on a scale of one to 10 with five being the minimum passing mark.
Schools in Bucharest and other cities are often better than schools in rural areas since they are better equipped and adequately staffed. Rural schools might only offer certain years of schooling and have a limited amount of teachers.
Given that students are taught in Romanian, public schools might not be the best option for expats unless their children are young and they intend to stay for the long term.'
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
'Ukip supports a five-year ban on unskilled migrants coming to Britain and allowing highly-skilled people to enter only if they have enough “points” under an Australian-style border control system.'
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
"The What We Stand For section of Ukip’s website says: “Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependants for five years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), education and housing – they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.”"
So if the skilled workers aren't already millionaires, their kids will suffer because they're foreign and will be refused entry into any state schools for 5 years.
Well you tell me why any hard-working Brit should have to pay for a Romanian child to go to our schools and use our hospitals without resorting to a load of socialist happy clappy rubbish
Because an educated and healthy immigrant child will be far more beneficial for the British economy than a child that is illiterate and after 5 years will have no choice but to claim benefits for the rest of their life due to having no skills thanks to a lack of any education.
Future tax incomes from that child getting a decent job outweigh any costs of primary and secondary school education for one child.
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
'Ukip supports a five-year ban on unskilled migrants coming to Britain and allowing highly-skilled people to enter only if they have enough “points” under an Australian-style border control system.'
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
"The What We Stand For section of Ukip’s website says: “Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependants for five years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), education and housing – they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.”"
So if the skilled workers aren't already millionaires, their kids will suffer because they're foreign and will be refused entry into any state schools for 5 years.
Well you tell me why any hard-working Brit should have to pay for a Romanian child to go to our schools and use our hospitals without resorting to a load of socialist happy clappy rubbish
Well, okay, I will. The answer is reciprocity. It's because Romania is in the EEA. And because hard-working Romanians would have to pay for a British child to go to schools and use their hospitals. That's why we have things like the EHIC!
This is the real issue = HEADCOUNT, not race/religion/ethnicity and it's gets clouded by debates about how many UKIP racists it takes to change a light bulb.
Quite simply - there is not enough room in UK for the current population trend to continue, so which party is going to address it and how ?
Nope, the real issue is demographic distribution. The baby boomer generation started retiring about 9 years ago, and given the increase in life expectancy and drop in the birth-rate to those born in the UK, without immigration we're going to suffer major skills shortages as well as have to massively increase the taxes levied on the dwindling working population in order to fund their pensions, their social care and their healthcare. Unfortunately, the chances of any politicians putting in place policies that'll do the long-term restructuring needed to deal with these demographic changes are small, cos they're likely to be unpopular.
Skills shortages in what sectors?
Not sure those that are coming are bringing any specific skill that we need - but it could well be the case.
If we needed 300,000 people to come in 2014 due to skill shortages then we are in big trouble already.
The thought of approx 45000 extra lorries on the road right now and 150000 going forward is helping make up my mind about where I want to spend my retirement.
Very true! But I think it's mainly to do with old drivers retiring and no one filling the vacancies rather than extra trucks on the road.
Thinking of the youth unemployment we have, why don't we teach our young people to drive (taxi or truck) to a high standard for free (Gov't funded) and then reclaim the costs in a similar way to student loans - i.e. once they are earning.
That way we could up the standard of driving on our roads, reduce youth unemployment, fill a skill shortage. Most teenagers want to learn to drive, but struggle with the cost of the process.
I've highlighted the big flaw in this idea.
Student loans are Government funded at present. This idea is not very different to the current paid apprenticeship schemes that the Government currently promotes. If someone is currently unemployed - the Gov is partly "funding" them while not working anyway.
As for new drivers - yes it's a valid point, that's why I suggested that the Gov training should be of a high standard and thus highly accredited.
But for how much longer? It's been going on for years that the govt has wanted to privatise student loans and was only scrapped last summer, I suspect given the absolute dicking students have had from this coalition that doing this less than a year from a GE would not have been a smart move. I fully expect it will happen though. More likely under a Conseravtive govt but I wouldn't rule out Labour doing it too.
The problem is that as cuts continue, the last thing a Tory govt will do is provide a massive outlay for training in a particular industry. It is obviously better short term to encourage immigration to fill any skills shortage. Whilst I'm not anti immigration it has to be a worry long term when these people go back to their birth country and we are once again left with a shortage, all the while there are young people who have limited options in terms of training and employment. Vicious circle and all that. So whilst I don't disagree with your suggestion, in reality it just won't happen.
unlike those pesky reactionary right wing disabled folk with a spare room.
Oddly, I have a friend who is one of those. He has muscular atrophy, uses an electric wheelchair and is a councillor for Chelsea Riverside. Of course, because he works full-time, his spare room belongs to him, so he is not subject to the vagaries of other politicians.
I wonder what words all those lovely, friendly foreigners use when talking of British people and all others of a different colour/nationality/ethnic background. Do the race relations acts cover insulting words uttered in a 'foreign' tongue ?.
I wonder what words all those lovely, friendly foreigners use when talking of British people and all others of a different colour/nationality/ethnic background. Do the race relations acts cover insulting words uttered in a 'foreign' tongue ?.
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All the blacks I have know think all this media hype is all over the top which it is.
As for what the UKIP guy said, maybe you should watch some of the old comedy programes and you will find offsensive remarks being said and their was no protest or media hype over that. We will soon breathe and someone will spout out 'racist' to us.
With you on the horrible bedroom tax. Not sure why it's relevant though.
As for TTIP, I am a member of Unite and I find it ridiculously bad Labour support TTIP when Unite have been campaigning against it but they are the biggest funders of the Labour party.
Leaders should set and lead by example, condoning or defending racist language is not a good start.
Before you target UKIP, you should listen to what members from Labour and the Tories say as well. Some examples below, I bet you have not heard any of those:
http://nopenothope.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/london-labour-ukip-full-of-money.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/22/tory-councillor-john-cherry-quits-_n_3129770.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-112982/MP-sacked-racist-joke.html
http://www.suttonguardian.co.uk/yoursay/letters/11083815.Racist_assault_councillor_must_resign/
So, before you say UKIP are racist then perhaps you should say this about the other parties?
I don't think UKIP are racist but like the other 3 parties they do have 'idiots' but they have got rid of them. UKIP are only branded as racist by the far left groups and the media is because they are ahead on the immigration debate. I bet you, if a UKIP twitter posted the same context as the first article, they will be on the news, easily!
Banning all immigrant children from schools would really help with that integration that UKIP seem to want immigrants to do immediately when they come into the country.
Some of their policies are so thick it's a wonder how they've even reached the position they have.
Nothing wrong with that unless you support open borders
So if the skilled workers aren't already millionaires, their kids will suffer because they're foreign and will be refused entry into any state schools for 5 years.
'Public education in Romania is free for residents. There aren’t many first-class schools, so those that do have a good reputation often have long waiting lists. As a result, overcrowding at these schools is common and results in classes being spilt into morning and afternoon shifts to accommodate more students.
Students in Romania are graded on a scale of one to 10 with five being the minimum passing mark.
Schools in Bucharest and other cities are often better than schools in rural areas since they are better equipped and adequately staffed. Rural schools might only offer certain years of schooling and have a limited amount of teachers.
Given that students are taught in Romanian, public schools might not be the best option for expats unless their children are young and they intend to stay for the long term.'
Future tax incomes from that child getting a decent job outweigh any costs of primary and secondary school education for one child.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2997694/Government-minister-says-need-reduce-immigration.html
The problem is that as cuts continue, the last thing a Tory govt will do is provide a massive outlay for training in a particular industry. It is obviously better short term to encourage immigration to fill any skills shortage. Whilst I'm not anti immigration it has to be a worry long term when these people go back to their birth country and we are once again left with a shortage, all the while there are young people who have limited options in terms of training and employment. Vicious circle and all that. So whilst I don't disagree with your suggestion, in reality it just won't happen.
Of course, because he works full-time, his spare room belongs to him, so he is not subject to the vagaries of other politicians.
Youtube Flanders and Swan. The English are best.
...need to put in a search engine as youtube linking isn't working here these days.