Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Work hard to try and better yourself and provide for yourself and your family (if you have any).
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to think
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to think
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to think
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.
Hopefully Labour now will be different. Cameron etc worst there has ever been for our state wealth we share in and our liberties eg legal aid. Nice chat though. Have a good evening.
Gordon Brown wanted to sell off Royal Mail in 2008. A bill was passed by the House of Lords but a proposed revolt by Labour MP'S prevented it from happening. GB cited a poor economic climate why he did not proceed with the sell off.
It interests me that David Cameron has made a point of saying sometime during his Premiership something along the lines of 'there's not no such thing as society, there is such a thing as society'. I don't know if he was turning his back on the Thatcher legacy when he said that. I suppose he was a member of societies at school and University, the Bullenden Club, so he will interact with his like minded fellows...maybe like bankers, perhaps less so with disabled people who have an extra bedroom for visitors and carers to use. Lets face it the poor bankers have titchy houses, and loads of the benefit grabbers live in huge homes. maybe Cameron wants to redress that particular imbalance to create a fairer society.... that there is now such a thing as.
It interests me that David Cameron has made a point of saying sometime during his Premiership something along the lines of 'there's not no such thing as society, there is such a thing as society'. I don't know if he was turning his back on the Thatcher legacy when he said that. I suppose he was a member of societies at school and University, the Bullenden Club, so he will interact with his like minded fellows...maybe like bankers, perhaps less so with disabled people who have an extra bedroom for visitors and carers to use. Lets face it the poor bankers have titchy houses, and loads of the benefit grabbers live in huge homes. maybe Cameron wants to redress that particular imbalance to create a fairer society.... that there is now such a thing as.
Except you're talking about society in two different contexts. When Cameron refers to society, he is talking about individuals working together and in unison as part of a community. When Thatcher uttered 'there's no such thing as society', she was referring to the idea that there's some magical bottomless pot of money and goodwill called 'society' that certain members of society want to solve all their problems.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.
HB was paid to landlords under Labour. Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour. Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour. Labour used QE. Labour support TTIP. Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to think
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.
Hopefully Labour now will be different.
Their record in office from the days of the Wilson, now 50 odd years ago, rather suggests that your hope is badly misplaced and is likely to lead to nothing more than huge disappointment in the event that the two Edwards get back in power.
And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.
So if you're right, then Cameron is saying the same thing, yet he made a point of counteracting the Thatcher saying.
There is indeed no magical bottomless pot of money, but it is how a government chooses to spend whatever there is that is interesting. Saving banks for example.
Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year. Loony probably not right word. They lack some basic human instincts like compassion and empathy. Not their fault just the way they are.
You wanted the football club you support to get relegated. Loony is definitely the right word.
From what I can work out successive governments have stepped in to save the banks. Most bankers are solid lefties though, they wouldn't know any Conservatives I suppose, unlike those pesky reactionary right wing disabled folk with a spare room.
I think the man (Farage) speaks sense, I also think the vast majority agree with a lot of what he says!.........what cant you agree with??..........or understand??......and yes I will be voting for him!
Because he is a racist, arrogant, slimey wannabe.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. However I personally like what he says about controlled immigration (what is there not to agree with???) NO benefits to immigrants until they have been in the country 5 years (sounds perfectly reasonable to me) I could go on but I guess you "trust" Mr Cameron or even Mr Miliband? more?...........and for what it is worth I really don't think he is racist!
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
AND that makes him a racist??.........haha, well I guess that is him and hundreds of thousands of people that have said "going for a "chinky"........behave yourself!
Thats the trouble with this poxy country, people are frightened to say anything with fear of being called a racist. Do you remember what Dartford etc used to be like?? Well I bloody well do and that is why I will be voting UKIP!!!...........and if people want to call me a racist then so be it. End of rant and I wished I hadn't "visited" this particular thread.
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
'I'm going out for an Indian'.
Problem is I'm not sure when I'm being racist or not nowadays. You can't seem to have a nickname for any race, religion, country or region without someone (generally not from any of the previous list) feeling offended by it.
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist. It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
AND that makes him a racist??.........haha, well I guess that is him and hundreds of thousands of people that have said "going for a "chinky"........behave yourself!
But Kerry Smith wasn't going for a meal, he was commenting on a name.
I would also like to add in general and not aimed at anyone in particular.
All the people that go well OTT jumping on the slighest utterance, that they construe could be racist, do absolutely no good for the fight against racism.
All it does is pee off the vast majority, that are doing their level best to do and say the right things, without someone being offended on behalf of someone else.
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Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
And, you know, there is no such thing as society.
There are individual men and women, and there are families.
So if you're right, then Cameron is saying the same thing, yet he made a point of counteracting the Thatcher saying.
There is indeed no magical bottomless pot of money, but it is how a government chooses to spend whatever there is that is interesting. Saving banks for example.
Most bankers are solid lefties though, they wouldn't know any Conservatives I suppose, unlike those pesky reactionary right wing disabled folk with a spare room.
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
Well I bloody well do and that is why I will be voting UKIP!!!...........and if people want to call me a racist then so be it.
End of rant and I wished I hadn't "visited" this particular thread.
Problem is I'm not sure when I'm being racist or not nowadays. You can't seem to have a nickname for any race, religion, country or region without someone (generally not from any of the previous list) feeling offended by it.
Here's one reason why I think Farage is a dick.
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist.
It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.
All the people that go well OTT jumping on the slighest utterance, that they construe could be racist, do absolutely no good for the fight against racism.
All it does is pee off the vast majority, that are doing their level best to do and say the right things, without someone being offended on behalf of someone else.