UKIP win a seat
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Work hard to try and better yourself and provide for yourself and your family (if you have any).kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
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HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
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Don't you mean Royal Mail.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
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I do!Dansk_Red said:
Don't you mean Royal Mail.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
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HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.5 -
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to thinkFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.0 -
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.kentred2 said:
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to thinkFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.1 -
We are being ripped off eg by the teFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Hopefully Labour now will be different. Cameron etc worst there has ever been for our state wealth we share in and our liberties eg legal aid. Nice chat though. Have a good evening.Fiiish said:
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.kentred2 said:
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to thinkFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.0 -
Gordon Brown wanted to sell off Royal Mail in 2008. A bill was passed by the House of Lords but a proposed revolt by Labour MP'S prevented it from happening. GB cited a poor economic climate why he did not proceed with the sell off.1
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It interests me that David Cameron has made a point of saying sometime during his Premiership something along the lines of 'there's not no such thing as society, there is such a thing as society'. I don't know if he was turning his back on the Thatcher legacy when he said that. I suppose he was a member of societies at school and University, the Bullenden Club, so he will interact with his like minded fellows...maybe like bankers, perhaps less so with disabled people who have an extra bedroom for visitors and carers to use. Lets face it the poor bankers have titchy houses, and loads of the benefit grabbers live in huge homes. maybe Cameron wants to redress that particular imbalance to create a fairer society.... that there is now such a thing as.0
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Except you're talking about society in two different contexts. When Cameron refers to society, he is talking about individuals working together and in unison as part of a community. When Thatcher uttered 'there's no such thing as society', she was referring to the idea that there's some magical bottomless pot of money and goodwill called 'society' that certain members of society want to solve all their problems.seth plum said:It interests me that David Cameron has made a point of saying sometime during his Premiership something along the lines of 'there's not no such thing as society, there is such a thing as society'. I don't know if he was turning his back on the Thatcher legacy when he said that. I suppose he was a member of societies at school and University, the Bullenden Club, so he will interact with his like minded fellows...maybe like bankers, perhaps less so with disabled people who have an extra bedroom for visitors and carers to use. Lets face it the poor bankers have titchy houses, and loads of the benefit grabbers live in huge homes. maybe Cameron wants to redress that particular imbalance to create a fairer society.... that there is now such a thing as.
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Their record in office from the days of the Wilson, now 50 odd years ago, rather suggests that your hope is badly misplaced and is likely to lead to nothing more than huge disappointment in the event that the two Edwards get back in power.kentred2 said:
We are being ripped off eg by the teFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.
Hopefully Labour now will be different.Fiiish said:
No but you did insist that all those policies were Tory policies when Labour's policies were either the same or worse for the poor.kentred2 said:
Did I say labour were any different under Blair? You need to thinkFiiish said:
HB was paid to landlords under Labour.kentred2 said:
HB to private landlords. Quantitative easing to the rich. Post Office. Working tax credits to subsidy corporations. TTIP. Tax cuts for rich. Tax rises for poor eg vat. Sell off of nhs. Etc etc. very childish.Fiiish said:
You do realise this isn't actually true and that this is a rather childish and delusional view.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.Fiiish said:
Thatcher and Major came from working class backgrounds. Blair and Miliband grew up in far more privileged circumstances. The idea that the Tories are the party of the rich any more than the Labour Party are doesn't stand up to even the faintest whiff of scrutiny.kentred2 said:
What a twatish reply. Why work hard to keep the 1% in power.Fiiish said:
Literally one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Not everyone who lives on a low wage wants the government to wipe their bum for them.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
Taxes for rich are higher now than they were under Labour.
Income tax is lower for the poor than it was under Labour.
Labour used QE.
Labour support TTIP.
Labour privatised twice as much of the NHS than this Government has.
These are what are known as facts. What you keep posting is categorically drivel.0 -
I believe Thatcher said:
And, you know, there is no such thing as society.
There are individual men and women, and there are families.
So if you're right, then Cameron is saying the same thing, yet he made a point of counteracting the Thatcher saying.
There is indeed no magical bottomless pot of money, but it is how a government chooses to spend whatever there is that is interesting. Saving banks for example.
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Which banks have the Tories saved?0
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Pffft. 1%. IN my day it was running dog lackies of imperialist-capitalists. Generation text has taken all the poetry out of political insults.kentred2 said:
Every policy this Tory government follows is to transfer money etc from us the state to the private ownership of their kind the 1%.
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You wanted the football club you support to get relegated. Loony is definitely the right word.kentred2 said:
No. Only those that don't earn over say £15000 year. Loony probably not right word. They lack some basic human instincts like compassion and empathy. Not their fault just the way they are.WayneK said:
So Tory voters are loonys then? What a sweeping statement.kentred2 said:Our owners, the 1% that all loony tory voters keep in power and so safeguard their billions, want mass immigration to divide and rule, and to drive down wage costs.
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From what I can work out successive governments have stepped in to save the banks.Jints said:Which banks have the Tories saved?
Most bankers are solid lefties though, they wouldn't know any Conservatives I suppose, unlike those pesky reactionary right wing disabled folk with a spare room.
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Of course you are entitled to your opinion. However I personally like what he says about controlled immigration (what is there not to agree with???) NO benefits to immigrants until they have been in the country 5 years (sounds perfectly reasonable to me) I could go on but I guess you "trust" Mr Cameron or even Mr Miliband? more?...........and for what it is worth I really don't think he is racist!sadiejane1981 said:
Because he is a racist, arrogant, slimey wannabe.charliewright1 said:I think the man (Farage) speaks sense, I also think the vast majority agree with a lot of what he says!.........what cant you agree with??..........or understand??......and yes I will be voting for him!
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Found this about the non racist Nigel Farage:
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
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AND that makes him a racist??.........haha, well I guess that is him and hundreds of thousands of people that have said "going for a "chinky"........behave yourself!1
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Thats the trouble with this poxy country, people are frightened to say anything with fear of being called a racist. Do you remember what Dartford etc used to be like??
Well I bloody well do and that is why I will be voting UKIP!!!...........and if people want to call me a racist then so be it.
End of rant and I wished I hadn't "visited" this particular thread.
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'I'm going out for an Indian'.seth plum said:Found this about the non racist Nigel Farage:
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
Problem is I'm not sure when I'm being racist or not nowadays. You can't seem to have a nickname for any race, religion, country or region without someone (generally not from any of the previous list) feeling offended by it.
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I still live in Dartford and won't be voting UKIP1
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Here's one reason why I think Farage is a dick.1 -
The world has changed a lot & always will. 20 years ago, I dare say many people would have said "Chinky" as they did Paddy or Taffy and we were told to call black people "coloured".seth plum said:Found this about the non racist Nigel Farage:
'Nigel Farage has defended the racist remarks of the former Ukip candidate, Kerry Smith, forced to pull out of the race for Basildon.
Among other offensive comments, Smith referred to a woman with a Chinese name as a “chinky”, and has since had to apologise and withdraw his candidacy.
However, his party leader defended his use of the word on LBC this morning:
'Kerry Smith is a rough diamond. He’s a council house boy from the east end of London, left school early, and talks and speaks in a way that a lot of people from that background do. We can pretend if you like . . . If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you’re going for?'
Errr right. So if people are going for an Indian meal what do they say? Obviously not 'I'm going out for a Pack*e'.
People have to be very careful what they say these days, in order not to offend someone.
Yes, if you refer to someone as "Chinky" or "Paddy" or "Taffy", then you probably should have kept your mouth shut & thought before speaking, but it doesn't necessarily make you racist.
It just means you should think a bit more before you open your mouth.3 -
But Kerry Smith wasn't going for a meal, he was commenting on a name.charliewright1 said:AND that makes him a racist??.........haha, well I guess that is him and hundreds of thousands of people that have said "going for a "chinky"........behave yourself!
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I would also like to add in general and not aimed at anyone in particular.
All the people that go well OTT jumping on the slighest utterance, that they construe could be racist, do absolutely no good for the fight against racism.
All it does is pee off the vast majority, that are doing their level best to do and say the right things, without someone being offended on behalf of someone else.5 -
I am offended on behalf of myself and my own. It's personal.2
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Nice of Labour to let MG Rover go bust and let Southern Birmingham collapseJints said:Which banks have the Tories saved?
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