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Graham in Morrison out?

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  • Rizzo said:

    StevieG said:

    Danny Graham is a big name signing but not exactly prolific in front of goal these days. Quite happy with Tucudean even though he has not scored many yet.

    Point being that we need backup. If anything happens to Vetokele we are well and truly stuffed at the moment.

    We're stuffed in the sense of any realistic play offs aim, but not in general imo. Reckon we'd stay up without Igor, more confident in our midfield to chip in with more goals this season.
    Having said that I'd like to see a new striker come in as well, just don't think it would be a catastrophe if it didn't happen.
  • Would be disappointing if true.
  • Graham has been linked with a few clubs so I wouldn't read much into it, agent just touting around for his client.
  • edited September 2014
    Perhaps a CB that Peeters wants and fits the network profile has become available and loaning Morro frees up some money ?
  • The interesting thing about out CB combination is that they pass the ball very well, and look good on the ball, but aren't keeping clean sheets. Not all their fault, but we've let in 7 goals in 5 games (Millwall 3, Wolves 2) so I wouldn't have thought the current partnership was set in stone.
  • colthe3rd said:

    Graham has been linked with a few clubs so I wouldn't read much into it, agent just touting around for his client.

    We're one of the few clubs he hasn't played for!

  • The interesting thing about out CB combination is that they pass the ball very well, and look good on the ball, but aren't keeping clean sheets. Not all their fault, but we've let in 7 goals in 5 games (Millwall 3, Wolves 2) so I wouldn't have thought the current partnership was set in stone.

    One clear cut GK error and one huge deflection makes that look a little better. Millwall haven't played a team in the top half yet whereas I would suggest our opponents have been at least in theory more difficult. Five games in and the stats are meaningless quite frankly.
  • edited September 2014
    I think it's odd anyway. One of our main players last season, in most peoples eyes a guaranteed starter with TBH as backup but now he's second choice.

    Seen a few mentions of him getting his chance but it's not like that, he's not some unproven new signing, he was a regular last year and I'm sure he would have expected the same this year. Must be hard to accept that you played a solid season for a club, sign a new contract and then you get replaced by two new signings. Admittedly I would say TBH and Bikey are better but it must be a little disheartening.

    I wouldn't like to see him go, he's still an important squad player.
  • I think it's odd anyway. One of our main players last season, in most peoples eyes a guaranteed starter with TBH as backup but now he's second choice.

    Seen a few mentions of him getting his chance but it's not like that, he's not some unproven new signing, he was a regular last year and I'm sure he would have expected the same this year. Must be hard to accept that you played a solid season for a club and he gets replaced by two new signings. Admittedly I would say TBH and Bikey are better but it must be a little disheartening.

    I wouldn't like to see him go, he's still an important squad player.

    Squad player is I suspect his beef.
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  • alangee said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Not sure why we would let Morro go on a free though?

    I would guess as a thank you for his past services
    That sounds like Steve Brown at the end of his time with us

    Morrison is - I think - 24 and has the best years of his career ahead of him.

    And we just gave him a new contract.

    Doesn't sound to me like the RD way of doing things. And as others have said, he would have to be replaced.
    Only 24 puts him in perspective, certainly yet to see his best years. For me too much of a traditional Center half, but someone who has given his all for the team and is recognized as such
  • Bikey & TBH are no less traditional than MM, just put in a totally different team with less pressure on them at the back due to the attacking stance of play. and When that pressure is really pressed Bikey & TBH (not solely), crack. Think it'll do MM some good moving elsewhere, he's got too many years ahead of him to sit on the bench
  • I'd be very disappointed if Morro was sold I think he's very underrated. In actual fact I'd kind of rather him be starting than Bikey. Some of the performances he's put in when times are hard were solid.
  • edited September 2014

    In actual fact I'd kind of rather him be starting than Bikey.

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  • In actual fact I'd kind of rather him be starting than Bikey.

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    Yeah not that I mind Bikey, just get a bit nervy watching him with the ball at his feet, feel like he's got a mistake in him.
  • Both seem a bit odd, Graham has a pretty good record at this level so would be happy enough with that, letting Morrison seems go seems weird unless he is replaced.
  • People have to remember Morrison was part of a first eleven that finished just above the relegation spots last year, we have changed most of the squad around and after a handful of games are in the playoff spots. Early days yet but I'd suggest that Peeters knows what he is doing so far and if that means Morrison gets splinters in his arse then so be it
  • Wasn't Graham a bit useless for Middlesborough?
  • sam3110 said:

    People have to remember Morrison was part of a first eleven that finished just above the relegation spots last year, we have changed most of the squad around and after a handful of games are in the playoff spots. Early days yet but I'd suggest that Peeters knows what he is doing so far and if that means Morrison gets splinters in his arse then so be it

    …and was in one that finished 9th the season before that. Can we really blame Morrison for last seasons finish? No.
  • The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.
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  • Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
  • Hopefully Morrison stays, just a shame for him(not us) that he is suffering from us having a decent squad for the first time since we came back up rather then just a decent first 11 that guaranteed a start for him in the past.
  • edited September 2014

    Bikey & TBH are no less traditional than MM, just put in a totally different team with less pressure on them at the back due to the attacking stance of play. and When that pressure is really pressed Bikey & TBH (not solely), crack. Think it'll do MM some good moving elsewhere, he's got too many years ahead of him to sit on the bench

    I beg to differ TBH and Bikey are more comfortable on the ball than Moro and appear to appeal more to BB's more continental style of playing it out from the back. Both have also played at Premiership and International level. Of course we don't know what has gone on in training or if there has been a clash of personalities.

    As far as the possession and corner stats (19 for and 42 against) in the league games to date go, we are heavily in deficit which undermines somewhat the views that they are under less pressure at the back and are more likely to crack when the heat is turned up.

    Of the goals conceded so far we've had a deflection albeit off TBH, a goalkeeping howler, a poorly defended goal by the left back and keeper from the best winger the league, a crackerjack from Ward of Derby, a breakaway and sloppy challenge from Cousins at Udders and two from corners (out of 42!) at Brighton.

    Don't get me wrong I like Moro who was 'my' POTY last season, always have done and I hope there is no substance to this rumour but I don't have an issue with the two present incumbents at CB and unfortunately for him neither does BB at the moment.
  • sam3110 said:

    People have to remember Morrison was part of a first eleven that finished just above the relegation spots last year, we have changed most of the squad around and after a handful of games are in the playoff spots. Early days yet but I'd suggest that Peeters knows what he is doing so far and if that means Morrison gets splinters in his arse then so be it

    …and was in one that finished 9th the season before that. Can we really blame Morrison for last seasons finish? No.
    And where did I blame Morrison for that? I said he was part of an eleven which has pretty much all been changed, Hamer, Dervite, Stephens, Poyet, Sordell, Harriott, Church all played a lot if football last season and all are either benchwarming with Morro or moved on to pastures new, so he's not the only one to blame but I'd certainly say he was a major part of a team that struggled to stay in this division last season. Looking at the season before last doesn't really help matters, as you would expect teams to strengthen in that time, something we didn't do, and again that wasn't Morrisons fault, but we weren't playoff contenders that season, save for a late season surge.
  • Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
    I don't mind getting 'Colin'd' when I deserve it, but why have I been Colin'd, why, why, why........oh the shame!

    or

    You don't get the Colin gag.
  • Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
    Why is that a Thanks Colin comment?

    Not only is Thanks Colin getting overused and tiresome but people seem to have forgotten what it meant.
    Because I was bored. Lighten up.
  • Greenie said:

    Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
    I don't mind getting 'Colin'd' when I deserve it, but why have I been Colin'd, why, why, why........oh the shame!

    or

    You don't get the Colin gag.
    See above post. Yes I do.
  • Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
    Why is that a Thanks Colin comment?

    Not only is Thanks Colin getting overused and tiresome but people seem to have forgotten what it meant.
    I think a lot of us never knew what it meant in the first place!
  • edited September 2014

    Greenie said:

    Greenie said:

    The reality is that sadly for Morrison his past exploits don't mean a lot when he's up against Ben Haim and Bikey, who are both better players.
    I think Morrison is a very good, solid CB in the Championship, but we have better players now, and what with Gomez pushing as well, its gonna be tough for him, however I can't see him going on loan. We need match day cover at CB, so its the bench for him, until TBH or Bikey get injured or pick up too many yellows or reds.

    Thanks Colin.
    I don't mind getting 'Colin'd' when I deserve it, but why have I been Colin'd, why, why, why........oh the shame!

    or

    You don't get the Colin gag.
    See above post. Yes I do.
    So you don't get it then, its not about being bored!!
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